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OfflineDreamer987
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man claims LSD caused murder
    #2180970 - 12/15/03 11:16 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

http://news.mysanantonio.com/story.cfm?xla=saen&xlb=180&xlc=1097250

hmmm, little green men. Sounds like another case of lawyers using hallucinagenic drugs as a defense for there cliants.


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Re: man claims LSD caused murder [Re: Dreamer987]
    #2181554 - 12/16/03 03:50 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Murder defendant describes 'little green man'

By Ihosvani Rodriguez
San Antonio Express-News

Web Posted : 12/11/2003 12:00 AM

The little green man leaped from behind the ice cream in the freezer and taunted Raymond Rodriguez to chase him.
The next thing Rodriguez remembers, after blacking out, was waking up the following morning lying on top of his mother's lover and drinking partner, Daniel San Miguel, 77, whom he discovered was dead with a knife in his chest.

Rodriguez said as much Tuesday as he took the stand on his own behalf and handed a jury what arguably is one of the most bizarre testimonies in recent capital murder trials.

Prosecutors believe Rodriguez killed San Miguel in February 2001 to steal his pickup. Authorities are not seeking the death penalty against Rodriguez, but the 25-year-old will be sentenced to life in prison if found guilty.

Rodriguez testified Wednesday that he was forced to consume a letter-size sheet of LSD earlier on the evening San Miguel died and was having hallucinations by the time he got to his house, where his mother's lover was sleeping.

Rodriguez described watching the walls and floors moving violently and going to eat something to calm his hallucinations. When he opened the refrigerator, he noticed the bologna and cheese were dancing around. Then he opened the freezer door.

"I saw a green man when I moved the ice cream," Rodriguez testified, nodding affirmatively and looking sternly at the jury. "He looked cute. I wanted him. He had hands and feet and looked like a little man. He jumped out and said, 'Catch me if you can ... !'

"So I tried to catch him."

Moments later, Rodriguez claims, he blacked out as he stared into a mirror.

The next morning, Rodriguez said he was shocked to discover San Miguel's body beneath him. He said he used San Miguel's pickup to dispose of the body in a ditch near the San Antonio Police Academy to make it easier for authorities to find the body.

After days went by, Rodriguez moved the decomposing corpse again and tossed it on the side of the road near Poteet, where a motorist eventually found it.

Rodriguez denied earlier testimony that he admitted to several people that he killed San Miguel. Witnesses who have testified to an admission include friends and relatives, including his sister, who ultimately turned him in to police.

Rodriguez described San Miguel as a loving grandfather figure who would've given him the truck if he had asked for it.

Defense attorneys have suggested someone else in the house killed San Miguel and that Rodriguez was manipulated into believing he did it.

Testimony resumes today.


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Re: man claims LSD caused murder [Re: Anno]
    #2181599 - 12/16/03 04:22 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

"The next morning, Rodriguez said he was shocked to discover San Miguel's body beneath him. He said he used San Miguel's pickup to dispose of the body in a ditch near the San Antonio Police Academy to make it easier for authorities to find the body.

After days went by, Rodriguez moved the decomposing corpse again and tossed it on the side of the road near Poteet, where a motorist eventually found it. "

yea right, if he truly blacked out and woke up to that why would he decide to go dump the body. if he wanted anyone to believe that he didnt know what happened he would have called 911 when he saw the body, not go dump the body because he didnt do it.


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Re: man claims LSD caused murder [Re: Anno]
    #2181959 - 12/16/03 10:16 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Rodriguez testified Wednesday that he was forced to consume a letter-size sheet of LSD earlier on the evening




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    #2182103 - 12/16/03 11:25 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: man claims LSD caused murder [Re: MeetMeInEleusis]
    #2182925 - 12/16/03 05:11 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Big time bull shit!


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Re: man claims LSD caused murder [Re: HidingInPlainSight]
    #2185633 - 12/17/03 05:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

something tells me that if he ate a whole sheet of acid he would be dead or a vegatable lost in an infinte trip.

and FORCED my ass. WTF this guy is a fucking idiot.


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Re: man claims LSD caused murder [Re: StonedShroom]
    #2185831 - 12/17/03 06:58 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

What makes you think he'd be dead? Eating a sheet of acid in itself isn't fatal, just makes for insanely intense tripping.


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Re: man claims LSD caused murder [Re: Sheepish]
    #2186195 - 12/17/03 09:13 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

really? that seriously wouldn't kill a person?

damn.


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Re: man claims LSD caused murder [Re: StonedShroom]
    #2186345 - 12/17/03 10:07 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I saw this on the news a few days ago (since I live in the immediate area of this) and of of course hes lying about it..


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Re: man claims LSD caused murder [Re: Cloud9]
    #2187116 - 12/18/03 05:46 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Ok, if any of you woke up after eating a bunch of acid and found a dead body under you are you telling me you'd roll over, and call 911?

Hello officer, I took a bunch of acid and accidentally killed somebody last night, could you come dispose of the body? Thanks.

Not to say that I believe him or not, because I have no real evidence to judge by. I'd really like to know why somebody forced him to eat a sheet of blotter though.


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Re: man claims LSD caused murder [Re: StonedShroom]
    #2187250 - 12/18/03 07:36 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

> really? that seriously wouldn't kill a person?

There have been documented cases of people taking over a gram of LSD-25 with no long term problems. A typical, modern day dose is around 100 micrograms (1 million grams per microgram).


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Re: man claims LSD caused murder [Re: Seuss]
    #2187270 - 12/18/03 08:01 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

>1 million grams per microgram

ahmm.....  :lipsrsealed: 


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Re: man claims LSD caused murder [Re: Anno]
    #2187277 - 12/18/03 08:26 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

*laugh* It is early... switch those around... 1 million micrograms per gram. Thanks for the catch...


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Re: man claims LSD caused murder [Re: Wysefool]
    #2189338 - 12/19/03 03:25 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

BlackZombie said:
Ok, if any of you woke up after eating a bunch of acid and found a dead body under you are you telling me you'd roll over, and call 911?



I must say that I would call the police. If I kill someone I should be held accountable for it.


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Re: man claims LSD caused murder [Re: StonedShroom]
    #2190858 - 12/19/03 04:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

There are thousands of people that have eaten more than a sheet of LSD. There are many who have eaten ALOT more than a sheet.

Here are a couple peoples storys.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...;o=&fpart=1


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Re: man claims LSD caused murder [Re: chinacat72]
    #2203120 - 12/27/03 01:53 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

There is no way he would think of eating, be only seeing walls moving, or seeing a little green man speaking english after eating that much....a sheet will *really* fuck you up alot more than that...


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Re: man claims LSD caused murder [Re: Dreamer987]
    #2206551 - 12/29/03 01:13 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

his retraction of his admission followed by his "i must've blacked out" does a lot to discredit any further testimony he might make.

i can believe he would not have killed the man if he had not eaten the LSD, but that does not excuse the action in my mind, unless he could prove he was forced to eat it.

it seems fishy to me, though i do have the luxury of distance from the situation coupled with leading/biasing information.


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Re: man claims LSD caused murder [Re: StonedShroom]
    #2207711 - 12/29/03 02:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

"something tells me that if he ate a whole sheet of acid he would be dead or a vegatable lost in an infinte trip. "

Nope, it's been done many a time. You'll trip hard. Really hard, then come down.


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