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Re: wtf is this! obamacare wtf! [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
zappaisgod said:
Don't you have a full time job?






yes, I do have a full time job, do all jobs pay enough to afford things such
as insurance at today's rates? clearly the dont. the thing with having a job
is it introduces more bills. I have to insure an added vehicle, I have to
provide fuel for the vehicle in order to get to this job that pays me enough
to be at just at the poverty level in addition to other expenses

will I be changing my income soon? why yes, this full time employer would
love to pay 80% of my tuition to send me to school to get a degree in
industrial, electrical or any of a dozen other engineering fields

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Re: wtf is this! obamacare wtf! [Re: Prisoner#1]
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prisoner one, check out the links I posted and talk to your accountant.

I'm sure you can get away with out having insurance because of the medical expenses caused by your daughter.

this Obama care has been voted on 54 Times in 48 months.

if you really think that it was only democrats voting on these issues, your an idiot.
a few of the bills regarding affordable care act, were spear headed by republicans.

our government should not have jumped into healthcare the way it did I feel.
they should have hired a company to work through the logistics, for 2-5 years and then get in it.

look at European countries that have centralized health care... people there take home a lot less due to higher taxes.
they also have to worry about a lot less people than in America.

whoever said the government is a not for profit company... your an idiot.
if the government does not make a profit, its called recession. do you want another one of them?
when the government makes a profit, it can start to pay off it's debt to other countries... like China.
and remember, the last president that didn't have a  in spending, was Clinton. A democrat.

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Re: wtf is this! obamacare wtf! [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
nicechrisman said:
More than I trust for profit corporations



Then you are a fool.



Why do you say that? The rest of the civilized world has gone to single payer systems. Is our government so much more messed up than the rest of the world's governments?


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"Cosmic Love is absolutelely ruthless and highly indifferent:
it teaches its lessons whether you like/dislike them or not."

John C. Lily

 

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Re: wtf is this! obamacare wtf! [Re: blojo02184] * 1
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blojo02184 said:
your an idiot.



You'd think someone commenting on the intelligence of others would know that it's "you're".


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: wtf is this! obamacare wtf! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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So Pris

What would happen if you decided to not pay your hospital bills? Will they come and break your daughters arm again? Wil they sue?


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Re: wtf is this! obamacare wtf! [Re: Patlal]
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....so i'm paying NOT to have health insurance?


:confused:

(i know this is the like, fourth time i've posted this but damn it)


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Re: wtf is this! obamacare wtf! [Re: mpd]
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mpd said:
Welcome to the world of today's liberal, OP.  This is what Keynesian economics produces - policies that can't be made to work, more taxes and more spending that all hurts the economy and prevents incomes from rising.

Hope you didn't vote Democratic.  If you did, you have no room to bitch.  Same-o if you didn't vote - you're still responsible and it counts.



I didn't vote at all.

Didn't really see the point.

George Carlin said something a long the lines of the two-party system is an illusion of control, I remember really feeling these statements and since I knew it didn't really matter, I spent the time I would have used to go voting and read some Harry Potter, since even just reading was in my mind more productive than voting.


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Re: wtf is this! obamacare wtf! [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said:
So Pris

What would happen if you decided to not pay your hospital bills? Will they come and break your daughters arm again? Wil they sue?



They can garnish your wage and seize assists. I.E. bank account house vehicle ect.

I have an arm injury that caused me to lose my job. The doctors gave me conflicting information about what to do and it took me 3 weeks to see orthopedic doctors.

Because it took me so long to get into orthopedic I may have permit nerve damage. I can't feel three of my fingers. No strength in the arm and my mobility is way down.
Wouldn't be an issue if I didn't use my hands to make my living. I have insurance I got through Obama care exchanges and it's Fucking useless.

I have some excised to do and go back in two weeks to see if I need surgery. The soonest I can get into physical therapy is December 1st. How the fuck is that gonna help after 2 months.

So yeah I'm paying for substandard care. Can't wait to get the bill for the 18 x rays they gave me. Cause they sworn it was broken. I'm hoping that before my next appointment I have mobility back I'll deal with the pain and numbness. I can't afford the MRI or the surgery. At this point I am going to have to sell at least one of my vehicles if not both.

We were fed a lie . Health care is not more accessible, affordable or better. Which is what we were promised.

I know whom I will be voting for this Tuesday and it won't be a democratic.


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I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.


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Re: wtf is this! obamacare wtf! [Re: blojo02184]
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blojo02184 said:
...this Obama care has been voted on 54 Times in 48 months.





Got something to back up the claim?


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Re: wtf is this! obamacare wtf! [Re: mpd]
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Re: wtf is this! obamacare wtf! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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:lol:


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