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I'm somewhat let down by the psychedelic community as of late...
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As the title states, I am becoming somewhat let down by how many people are using psychedelics wrongly; or "abusing" them. Psychedelics are a blessing, in a way. They help people in so many ways, they are seemingly perfectly healthy to use, a built-in immediate tolerance, and they help open people's' minds and imaginations and are just all around amazing drugs.

That being said, I see so many users on here who are either blatantly or are implying that they just take these drugs to get fucked up and nothing more. I'm all for doing whatever makes you happy and all that jazz, but I just expected more from the small community that is users of psychedelics. How can you take shrooms or acid and actually have no intention of getting anything positive out of it other than having a "awesome time, bro"? Why not just do coke and get the same insight about yourself (Other drugs, etc.)? I used to think psychedelics were very hard to abuse but now I'm starting to see the other side. Just kind of disappointing is all. Because now I know why there is such a negative stigma about these drugs. I literally pour out my feelings on how amazingly awesome these drugs are, to my friends who don't do them, about how they just make me a better person and broaden my outlooks and everything that's stressing me can be put on the back burner.

I don't know. There'll always be those people I guess.


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Re: I'm somewhat let down by the psychedelic community as of late... [Re: ApexNightmare]
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Yeah it can always be a let down to see.:peace: But raise a good glare and let the light shine for more people to figure out what we've stumbled upon:sunny:  All we can do really!!

Shorty:yinyang:


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Re: I'm somewhat let down by the psychedelic community as of late... [Re: Shortknight] * 4
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Another dude on a high horse. How's it up there, I hear the weather's nice.

Maybe step down off your horse onto your pedestal, but don't you dare touch the wet ground. Allow me to lay a red carpet first.

Responsible use of drugs. Drugs take you. How can you be responsible about being used?

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Re: I'm somewhat let down by the psychedelic community as of late... [Re: Rorge]
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He just doesn't want to see hurt people, thats all..:peace:


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Re: I'm somewhat let down by the psychedelic community as of late... [Re: Shortknight]
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Shortknight said:
He just doesn't want to see hurt people, thats all..:peace:


That I agree with. Nobody wants to see that.

I also don't like seeing people trick themselves.

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Re: I'm somewhat let down by the psychedelic community as of late... [Re: Rorge]
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Quote:
Another dude on a high horse. How's it up there, I hear the weather's nice.


On a high horse because I'm promoting the responsible use of these drugs? (Yes, you can use most drugs responsibly, peasant beneath my high horse.)

Or am I on that horse because I am promoting the positive things you can get out of these drugs?

Please enlighten me, oh great junky lord!


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LSD, Mushrooms, LSA, THC, Salvia Divinorum, DMT


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Re: I'm somewhat let down by the psychedelic community as of late... [Re: Rorge]
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Nobody does, but sometimes tricks are what keeps us going, though really common you gotta see what hes going on, I havent seen it lately, but its his own point of view right now. Everything changes when a friend starts to hurt himself or you yourself start to hurt yourself, you see it all the time.:thumbdown: The how the whys the where and the hows again? Thats life.:heart:

What a roller coaster, but little analogy you never want your friends in the deep end for too long!:peace: Think like a mother, lol!:tongue2:


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Edited by Shortknight (08/30/14 10:33 PM)

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Re: I'm somewhat let down by the psychedelic community as of late... [Re: ApexNightmare] * 4
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Junky lord? Never heard that one applied to me but thank you for being the first.

Responsible use? I'm not sure it exists with mind altering chemicals. Some people, based on preparation, will likely have better experiences, that will likely lead to less harm and maybe positive outcomes. But don't forget, you're still playing legos with your brain when you use drugs.

But I wish you luck in your explorations and may you shine a pretty light on the world.

We can't control what others do, but we can make everyone feel better by being funloving! The music of life is understood by every organism.

And I'm getting way too hippy right now wow.

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Re: I'm somewhat let down by the psychedelic community as of late... [Re: ApexNightmare] * 2
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AndyCP said:
How can you take shrooms or acid and actually have no intention of getting anything positive out of it other than having a "awesome time, bro"? Why not just do coke and get the same insight about yourself (Other drugs, etc.)


Is having an awesome time not a positive experience? I don't see anything wrong with taking a very entertaining drug for entertainment.

And did you just compair psychedelics to coke?

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Re: I'm somewhat let down by the psychedelic community as of late... [Re: Rorge]
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Rorge said:
Another dude on a high horse. How's it up there, I hear the weather's nice.

Maybe step down off your horse onto your pedestal, but don't you dare touch the wet ground. Allow me to lay a red carpet first.

Responsible use of drugs. Drugs take you. How can you be responsible about being used?


Touche


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Re: I'm somewhat let down by the psychedelic community as of late... [Re: azur]
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He started it.  :cryaboutit:

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Re: I'm somewhat let down by the psychedelic community as of late... [Re: Rorge]
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Haha let the hippy dippyity dippy roll:flowerchild:


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Re: I'm somewhat let down by the psychedelic community as of late... [Re: ApexNightmare] * 2
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AndyCP said:
Because now I know why there is such a negative stigma about these drugs. I literally pour out my feelings on how amazingly awesome these drugs are, to my friends who don't do them, about how they just make me a better person and broaden my outlooks and everything that's stressing me can be put on the back burner.



So because I don't take psychedelics for self improvement, I actually think that's pretty stupid, I am somehow bad for the public perception of the drugs? I like it for recreational purposes, not mystical, not spiritual. I don't have to justify how I spend my trip to anyone.
If you want to do it and meditate and listen to some "sounds of waterfalls" new age record, you go right ahead it's your trip you paid for it, do it however you want. I personally think you people limit psychedelic's potential way too much. You put it in a little box of what you think it should be for and all uses outside your little regulations are bad. I actually wish LSD wasn't connected in the public's mind to hippies and spiritual nonsense because that is not what MY LSD trips are about. It's a good thing all the mad scientists and computer programmers mixed LSD with work in the 70's because if they had all been sitting around doing yoga and chanting we would not have had the PC revolution.

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Re: I'm somewhat let down by the psychedelic community as of late... [Re: my3rdeye]
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I dont think he means it like that, only to anyone themselves who do it to much and know themselves that they are.:sunny:  But im gunna let the creativity in this thread roll:tongue2:


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Re: I'm somewhat let down by the psychedelic community as of late... [Re: ApexNightmare] * 3
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I have mixed feeling on the issue. I think psychedelics should be used for healing and development. That said, some of the most healing times of my life have been sitting around laughing my ass off with good friends.


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it teaches its lessons whether you like/dislike them or not."

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Re: I'm somewhat let down by the psychedelic community as of late... [Re: my3rdeye]
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And what if they had exclusively done yoga, I mean what then? You don't know.

Also what if they'd all been vegans who didn't smoke cigarettes? There's a lot at play here besides psychedelics.

No wrongs or rights. Just druggies!

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Re: I'm somewhat let down by the psychedelic community as of late... [Re: nicechrisman]
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I understand that you don't want to see anyone get hurt using irresponsibly but it's none of your concern what someone takes a drug for.


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Re: I'm somewhat let down by the psychedelic community as of late... [Re: Rorge]
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I like to eat psychedelics while smoking crack with transvestite hookers. Don't judge.




We all understand what you're saying OP. At some point though you realize what you thought you realized by taking mushrooms was not a realization, but a young thought. Just drugs. The real magic in life is found fully sober. Breathe it in


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FALL IN LOVE WITH LC
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Re: I'm somewhat let down by the psychedelic community as of late... [Re: my3rdeye]
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my3rdeye said:
AndyCP said:
Because now I know why there is such a negative stigma about these drugs. I literally pour out my feelings on how amazingly awesome these drugs are, to my friends who don't do them, about how they just make me a better person and broaden my outlooks and everything that's stressing me can be put on the back burner.



So because I don't take psychedelics for self improvement, I actually think that's pretty stupid, I am somehow bad for the public perception of the drugs? I like it for recreational purposes, not mystical, not spiritual. I don't have to justify how I spend my trip to anyone.
If you want to do it and meditate and listen to some "sounds of waterfalls" new age record, you go right ahead it's your trip you paid for it, do it however you want. I personally think you people limit psychedelic's potential way too much. You put it in a little box of what you think it should be for and all uses outside your little regulations are bad. I actually wish LSD wasn't connected in the public's mind to hippies and spiritual nonsense because that is not what MY LSD trips are about. It's a good thing all the mad scientists and computer programmers mixed LSD with work in the 70's because if they had all been sitting around doing yoga and chanting we would not have had the PC revolution.


Thank you 3rdeye, couldn't have said it better myself. This is a good discussion though  :noargument:


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The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.  -Hunter S. Thompson

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Re: I'm somewhat let down by the psychedelic community as of late... [Re: azur]
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For the record, I am not a hippie. I actually despise hippies. Or what the stereotypical lazy hippie is at least ("Fight the power, man!")X) I don't hate the love haha!

Furthermore, I never said what you do while tripping makes you a bad person.

I too like sitting around laughing and having a good time, or sitting and meditating and just getting lost in my thoughts which always leads to better understanding of myself or situations. I think you can gain something from anything you do. But that's just it, GAIN something. I don't label myself a druggy simply because I KNOW I am bettering myself with each trip, or at least attempting to. If someone just does a drug to get fucked up, that's where I'm like, "meh, druggy." I feel like those people are just bored with their lives and use these drugs as some sort of entertainment to fill it.

You can't tell me people that trip twice a week just for the hell of it are actually doing anything good for themselves or are portraying the drug in any sort of positive light. Seeing someone fried on acid and they are a complete fool and have no understanding of the drug they are taking whatsoever, kind of makes me think less of them. (Like people that do Molly pretty much) And if that puts me back up on that "high horse" then so be it.


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