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Re: INFOWARDS, FOX, and COMEDY CENTRAL [Re: jpack666]
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jpack666 said:
I only watched him for 10 years straight because I thought exactly the same thing...
But dude, Viacom pays him, Viacom board is highly influenced by JP Morgan, JP Morgan has the same influence in FOX NEWS, I'm just saying... maybe in a way not everyone is ready to realize this, heck, when John Stewart can't be trusted anymore, NO FREAKING NEWS CAN... that's a very scary thought...


JP Morgan having a stake in Viacom and 20th Century Fox doesn't make Jon Stewart the same as any of the ass hats on FOX news. He makes fun of FOX news constantly, I mean really. As soon as Jon Stewart starts spewing propaganda instead of doing what he has been doing his entire Daily Show career, then I'll go along with you. Until then, you're just barely short of conspiracy theory territory.


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Re: INFOWARDS, FOX, and COMEDY CENTRAL [Re: clock_of_omens]
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clock_of_omens said:
jpack666 said:
I only watched him for 10 years straight because I thought exactly the same thing...
But dude, Viacom pays him, Viacom board is highly influenced by JP Morgan, JP Morgan has the same influence in FOX NEWS, I'm just saying... maybe in a way not everyone is ready to realize this, heck, when John Stewart can't be trusted anymore, NO FREAKING NEWS CAN... that's a very scary thought...


JP Morgan having a stake in Viacom and 20th Century Fox doesn't make Jon Stewart the same as any of the ass hats on FOX news. He makes fun of FOX news constantly, I mean really. As soon as Jon Stewart starts spewing propaganda instead of doing what he has been doing his entire Daily Show career, then I'll go along with you. Until then, you're just barely short of conspiracy theory territory.


Ok... You speak very well, seems like you are a good debater.
Maybe this article would interest you and you could try to debunk it :shrug:
http://ithp.org/articles/comedycentral.html
*edit: sucks that the only "other side of the coin" I could find on the internet also is coming from a source with a MAJOR AGENDA, I don't know much about the Tea Party but in some aspects this article could have been written with less "insults in anger"

Quote:
Any news outlet owned by a for profit corporation or any organization is going to push an agenda. Not so much that everything in the news is a flat out lie, but they will all put their own spin on the stories they publish. I'm not 100% sure there are any reliable news sources.

-well said I think

Edited by jpack666 (06/21/14 04:11 PM)

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Re: INFOWARDS, FOX, and COMEDY CENTRAL [Re: jpack666]
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Paragraph 1: For one this is full of Ad Hominem attacks against pretty much everyone. Also, Jon Stewart says all the time that he is a comedian and his show is entertainment. I'm sure there are people who only get their news from him, but that isn't his fault.

Paragraph 2: FOX news is rightly associated with old-fashion conservatives. Their average viewer age is in the 60's. Obviously the corporations that own these networks are looking only for money. That is why they will keep shows that get good ratings. The big news networks put constraints on what the anchors can say. However, Jon Stewart isn't a news anchor. He doesn't report the news, he makes fun of it. He uses satire to get at truths. His show gets good ratings, so the people who own Comedy Central aren't going to cancel it. He talks about corporations negatively all the time. Pretty much every thing he says on his show is progressive.

Paragraph 3: The people at the very top of most corporations are conservative. They are pretty much the only one's who have a vested interest in the status quo. All the money they donate to candidates is going to have a larger impact than anything anyone on their network says. As long as their shows are getting good ratings, they will keep them. All you have to do is listen to what Stewart is saying to see that he isn't a corporate shill.

Paragraph 4: Once again, Stewart doesn't claim to be anything other than entertainment. Colbert even more so. Their shows are on for a collective hour four days a week. That is hardly taking up so much of one's time that they can't get educated in other ways. Satire is useful. It allows them to get at truths through humor. If something is funny, people will be more willing to listen to what it has to say.


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Re: INFOWARDS, FOX, and COMEDY CENTRAL [Re: clock_of_omens]
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Rule 4.


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Re: INFOWARDS, FOX, and COMEDY CENTRAL [Re: mpd]
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Yeah, you should go check that one out.


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Re: INFOWARDS, FOX, and COMEDY CENTRAL [Re: clock_of_omens]
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propensity said:
INFOWARDS CUZ DERS A WARD ON FOR UR MIND

t=5s





k case closed, he's nuts lol
clock_of_omens said:
Paragraph 1: For one this is full of Ad Hominem attacks against pretty much everyone. Also, Jon Stewart says all the time that he is a comedian and his show is entertainment. I'm sure there are people who only get their news from him, but that isn't his fault.

Paragraph 2: FOX news is rightly associated with old-fashion conservatives. Their average viewer age is in the 60's. Obviously the corporations that own these networks are looking only for money. That is why they will keep shows that get good ratings. The big news networks put constraints on what the anchors can say. However, Jon Stewart isn't a news anchor. He doesn't report the news, he makes fun of it. He uses satire to get at truths. His show gets good ratings, so the people who own Comedy Central aren't going to cancel it. He talks about corporations negatively all the time. Pretty much every thing he says on his show is progressive.

Paragraph 3: The people at the very top of most corporations are conservative. They are pretty much the only one's who have a vested interest in the status quo. All the money they donate to candidates is going to have a larger impact than anything anyone on their network says. As long as their shows are getting good ratings, they will keep them. All you have to do is listen to what Stewart is saying to see that he isn't a corporate shill.

Paragraph 4: Once again, Stewart doesn't claim to be anything other than entertainment. Colbert even more so. Their shows are on for a collective hour four days a week. That is hardly taking up so much of one's time that they can't get educated in other ways. Satire is useful. It allows them to get at truths through humor. If something is funny, people will be more willing to listen to what it has to say.


Well put, does make you think. Is john stewart progressive... yeah probably.
Is there a gatekeeper telling him HOW progressive he can be... of course...
Did you ever see John or Colbert give any attention to 911 truth activism without trashing it, no...

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Re: INFOWARDS, FOX, and COMEDY CENTRAL [Re: propensity]
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propensity said:
INFOWARDS CUZ DERS A WARD ON FOR UR MIND

t=5s





:lol:thanks for that

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Re: INFOWARDS, FOX, and COMEDY CENTRAL [Re: clock_of_omens]
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clock_of_omens said:
Yeah, you should go check that one out.


Well breaking rule #4 implies that everything you contributed was NOT intelligent discussion. I thought your discussion was very intelligent. And worth reading. Was I wrong?

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Re: INFOWARDS, FOX, and COMEDY CENTRAL [Re: jpack666]
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Better than infowards :grin:

AJ...  Beware disinfo agents;" wolves in sheeps clothing" Ala "Operation Mockingbird".

106



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Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order:
1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.

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Re: INFOWARDS, FOX, and COMEDY CENTRAL [Re: jpack666]
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That's because 9/11 truth stuff is a conspiracy theory. JS doesn't deal in conspiracy theories.

jpack666 said:
clock_of_omens said:
Yeah, you should go check that one out.


Well breaking rule #4 implies that everything you contributed was NOT intelligent discussion. I thought your discussion was very intelligent. And worth reading. Was I wrong?


Mpd replied to me with rule #4, I guess implying that I wasn't intelligently discussing. I told him to go check it out, because his post was neither intelligent nor discussion.


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Re: INFOWARDS, FOX, and COMEDY CENTRAL [Re: flickedbic]
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flickedbic said:

Better than infowards :grin:

AJ...  Beware disinfo agents;" wolves in sheeps clothing" Ala "Operation Mockingbird".

106




thanks for that lol, good stuff

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Re: INFOWARDS, FOX, and COMEDY CENTRAL [Re: clock_of_omens]
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clock_of_omens said:
That's because 9/11 truth stuff is a conspiracy theory. JS doesn't deal in conspiracy theories.

jpack666 said:
clock_of_omens said:
Yeah, you should go check that one out.


Well breaking rule #4 implies that everything you contributed was NOT intelligent discussion. I thought your discussion was very intelligent. And worth reading. Was I wrong?


Mpd replied to me with rule #4, I guess implying that I wasn't intelligently discussing. I told him to go check it out, because his post was neither intelligent nor discussion.


Oh... Ok... You make a good point, I mean, conspiracies are not mainstream subject for someone like JS. And I don't blame him. JS and Colbert are both very smart guys. I don't have frustration towards them, just looking for a different kind of entertainment that still contains some actuality and some news, fake or not. Maybe I'm already too much to the left and just want the content to be more provocatively stimulating. I'm still watching those video posted by the person who said it was better than Infowards, heck I find it much better and funnier than Comedy Central. More viewing till I know what this guy's about but he's funny to me I can admit that.

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Re: INFOWARDS, FOX, and COMEDY CENTRAL [Re: jpack666]
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Alex jones is cool

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Re: INFOWARDS, FOX, and COMEDY CENTRAL [Re: flickedbic]
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flickedbic said:

Better than infowards :grin:

(all vids posted earlier in thread linking to the best of Deek Jackson on youtube)



Wow, I still am only starting to listen to this guy... but he's f*ng awesome! I can see he sometimes rips off Bill Hicks, and that is great lol, I'm glad I finally found someone with the same sense of humour as Bill, dam I thought that because of his death his style had died, but apparently, it lives... Awesome :lol:

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Re: INFOWARDS, FOX, and COMEDY CENTRAL [Re: jpack666]
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Haha y'all gotta check  out the video Troy made pretending to be AJ.  It's good.  A little before halfway down @: http://hugequestions.com/Eric/TFC/Alex-Jones-summary.html


Also:



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Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order:
1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.

Edited by flickedbic (06/21/14 11:28 PM)

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Re: INFOWARDS, FOX, and COMEDY CENTRAL [Re: flickedbic] * 1
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flickedbic said:
Haha y'all gotta check  out the video Troy made pretending to be AJ.  It's good.  A little before halfway down @: http://hugequestions.com/Eric/TFC/Alex-Jones-summary.html


Also:




yeah so you too are of the opinion that alex jones is BS machine? +1? lol

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Re: INFOWARDS, FOX, and COMEDY CENTRAL [Re: clock_of_omens]
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clock_of_omens said:
jpack666 said:
I only watched him for 10 years straight because I thought exactly the same thing...
But dude, Viacom pays him, Viacom board is highly influenced by JP Morgan, JP Morgan has the same influence in FOX NEWS, I'm just saying... maybe in a way not everyone is ready to realize this, heck, when John Stewart can't be trusted anymore, NO FREAKING NEWS CAN... that's a very scary thought...


JP Morgan having a stake in Viacom and 20th Century Fox doesn't make Jon Stewart the same as any of the ass hats on FOX news. He makes fun of FOX news constantly, I mean really. As soon as Jon Stewart starts spewing propaganda instead of doing what he has been doing his entire Daily Show career, then I'll go along with you. Until then, you're just barely short of conspiracy theory territory.


John Stewart spews all kinds of propaganda, but because you agree with it you don't recognize it as such.


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Amanita86 said:
Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: INFOWARDS, FOX, and COMEDY CENTRAL [Re: lowbrow]
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lowbrow said:
clock_of_omens said:
jpack666 said:
I only watched him for 10 years straight because I thought exactly the same thing...
But dude, Viacom pays him, Viacom board is highly influenced by JP Morgan, JP Morgan has the same influence in FOX NEWS, I'm just saying... maybe in a way not everyone is ready to realize this, heck, when John Stewart can't be trusted anymore, NO FREAKING NEWS CAN... that's a very scary thought...


JP Morgan having a stake in Viacom and 20th Century Fox doesn't make Jon Stewart the same as any of the ass hats on FOX news. He makes fun of FOX news constantly, I mean really. As soon as Jon Stewart starts spewing propaganda instead of doing what he has been doing his entire Daily Show career, then I'll go along with you. Until then, you're just barely short of conspiracy theory territory.


John Stewart spews all kinds of propaganda, but because you agree with it you don't recognize it as such.


I think that's true
I guess we tend to call propaganda what we don't agree with and when we do agree with it it can seem like "harmless entertainment" even though it is still propaganda.
Michael Moore is a good example of this, he made so much money off of that 9/11 movie but he is also often exposed as a hypocrite when we look at the other side of the story.

*edit: Just found this, it's not funny, but I find it entertaining and reaches me more than the political videos made with humour...

Edited by jpack666 (06/22/14 02:42 PM)

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