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Fake Id For Job ? Questions and any suggestions for me
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I'm 19 years old and i applied to every place i can in this town ( population 10,000 ), and im living with parents still going to community college , my car was totaled and there is no public transit so other towns are not an option .

every employer besides one said they weren't hiring but i left my resume anyway . ( late night denny's dish washing shift i probably won't get for who knows why )

I have about 27 resumes out , near every business who hires from that age .

quick note ( i have no job experience so i faked experience and reference , used contact # from a burner i bought with matching area code , real business and location , fake manager name . ) seems legit and if they call i can do a ( slightly ) different voice and attitude make myself sound employable .

i researched and it said that the social security number they are gonna ask for doesn't have personal info (such as age ) on it when they verify im working so i can pay taxes .  I AM GONNA USE MY REAL NAME

I just thought of this today so im still researching .

Would this work out , i could pass for 22 with the right clothes and mannerisms .

places i could work for

gas stations
bars
liquor stores
USPS
ups
any place that doesn't require a college degree or vocational training i could basically apply to ? ( and lie about experience and references on resume )

i could obtain a real looking associates degree or bachelors from a black market person but I've been out of high school for 1.5 years so either of those degrees would clearly be false since it takes 2 years for one and 4 for the second right ?

then again if faking my age could work then mabye faking a bachelors degree in a easy ass job would as well ( something where u don't need any real skills )


i need information on back round checks on applicants that employers use . ( their computer system , agencies , idk that's why im asking )


Also definitive information on ssn checks what information it displays to employers .

if lying to get a shitty job goes against your morals then please don't respond to this thread .

i need to save money for a car , to pay insurance , and when i move in a little while to a decent college to further my education .

i've been going through a hard time mentally and getting a job is what is giving me enough hope not to just buy a few heroin stamps and kill myself



Suggestions




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Edited by PLOWTO (01/23/14 06:05 AM)

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Re: Fake Id For Job ? Questions and any suggestions for me [Re: PLOWTO] * 2
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sounds like fraud to me....:bigyesnod:


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Re: Fake Id For Job ? Questions and any suggestions for me [Re: jboredone]
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I wouldn't lie on a job app. But that's just me.  :shrug:


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Re: Fake Id For Job ? Questions and any suggestions for me [Re: PLOWTO]
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I can't tell what you're asking.  Are you asking about using a fake degree, fake ID, or both?

Any place that requires some amount of college level writing will be able to tell you don't have a degree.  Immediately.

Most reputable places will probably check on a college degree.  Smaller mom and pop places and entry level jobs probably might not bother.  I doubt these places would verify age, but some places will do a standard background check.


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Re: Fake Id For Job ? Questions and any suggestions for me [Re: PLOWTO]
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I've worked 17 jobs so far, and lied on most of the resumes.

That being said what you're suggesting is going way too far for me, not unless you're on the run. The only things I lie about are:

Where I worked
Managers name
How long I worked there / lived in the area

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Re: Fake Id For Job ? Questions and any suggestions for me [Re: jboredone]
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jboredone said:
sounds like fraud to me....:bigyesnod:


just a little white lie ,i would happily wash dishes in a dirty restaurant until i got a college degree and a better job , but that's not panning out ( they probably won't hire me , even with " two months experience washing dishes and almost a year as a host " they will go with the owners nephew or some shit )


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Re: Fake Id For Job ? Questions and any suggestions for me [Re: PLOWTO] * 1
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Edited by spore baby (12/19/14 07:14 PM)

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Re: Fake Id For Job ? Questions and any suggestions for me [Re: PLOWTO]
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PLOWTO said:
just a little white lie ,i would happily wash dishes in a dirty restaurant until i got a college degree and a better job , but that's not panning out ( they probably won't hire me , even with " two months experience washing dishes and almost a year as a host " they will go with the owners nephew or some shit )


Thats the way to be go get em tiger. Stop being a punk go get a lawnmower and cut the neighbors grass or shovel snow or even go down to the local stable and shovel shit. Oh wait I forgot your an experienced dishwasher. So why aren't you cooking by now. :psycrankey: (I just love passing on the culinary curse). :laugh2:


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Re: Fake Id For Job ? Questions and any suggestions for me [Re: spore baby]
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spore baby said:
Here's probably the first real issue you will have
if you do get a job using a fake I.D.

What happens when the boss asks for banking info to deposit a check
or gives you a check with somebody else's name. Trying to cash that
will be real fun.

I would keep your real name and personal info on the resume.
Faking a few places that you've work isn't as bad. Just make
sure that you can do what your pretending.

Saying you have X amount of years doing something
and not being able to do it will make you look like
a fool and probably fired eventually.

Most bosses don't care what's on the resume. They
can tell within 5 minutes if your real or not when
the punch clock begins.

I know some University Grads that sure flip a mean burger
and that's all they'll ever do. On the other hand, I actually
know two guys who never graduated from school and are
currently millionaires right now. Because they worked liked dogs.

Good Luck


1. depositing a check won't give them my age ( i highly doubt )
2.i allready said im going to use my real name
3. i realize that i actually need skills to preform some jobs , ( but come on , working at a liqour store or gas station , or bar tender . all jobs that can be done by brain dead idiots in which they usually are .{depends on bar though if they are high class with a billion different drinks then ill definately need to practice making drinks , but if it's a simpleton bar like where i live they are gonna ask for a beer or a shot of whiskey pretty much }


for now it is faking age i am focusing on / i need to know how businesses find the info on their employees ?

faking college degrees is way more complicated , still any info you guys give is greatly appreciated .

IDEA

have a blackmarket id/document/diploma maker make me an official looking college transcript ( have the contact info allways be me using a number of burners and voices ) , along with a fake diploma , transcript phone call , id to verify age , In person verification from me , is that enough to get a job where i do nothing in an office ? mabye telemarketing ? .

thing is how do online college degree verification services verify anything ? by calling ? ssn somehow ? or some national education database with records of all people who have obtained higher education ( better than highschool , and  not vocational )


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Re: Fake Id For Job ? Questions and any suggestions for me [Re: PLOWTO]
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I wouldn't try to fake any college diploma :shrug:

I wouldn't want to deal with the legal ramifications of being caught.


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Re: Fake Id For Job ? Questions and any suggestions for me [Re: r00tuuu123]
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r00tuuu123 said:
PLOWTO said:
just a little white lie ,i would happily wash dishes in a dirty restaurant until i got a college degree and a better job , but that's not panning out ( they probably won't hire me , even with " two months experience washing dishes and almost a year as a host " they will go with the owners nephew or some shit )


Thats the way to be go get em tiger. Stop being a punk go get a lawnmower and cut the neighbors grass or shovel snow or even go down to the local stable and shovel shit. Oh wait I forgot your an experienced dishwasher. So why aren't you cooking by now. :psycrankey: (I just love passing on the culinary curse). :laugh2:


i wouldn't be a cook making $10 more an hour than a waiter , hot as shit in a kitchen , a million things going on at once , way to much stress and shit for me , plus i am not the best cook or care about cooking at all .

resume says washed dished then was host , then moved an been unemployed since 6 months. i actually did move so that's a plus as far as them going to see the actual manager of the real restaurant , anf finding out his name isn't what i said or me ever working there .

it's a plus right ?


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Re: Fake Id For Job ? Questions and any suggestions for me [Re: PurpleOwl]
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PurpleOwl said:
I wouldn't try to fake any college diploma :shrug:

I wouldn't want to deal with the legal ramifications of being caught.



sounds illegal to me , but have either of us done the research ?

i have about lying about experience and references and achievements  ( it isn't illegal to lie about those )

i'll Google falsifying college degrees and the legal ramifications of doing that .


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Re: Fake Id For Job ? Questions and any suggestions for me [Re: PLOWTO]
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can someone please explain what a standard backround check is exactly ?

i mean the specific ways they find out your info ?

ssn i think only contains name which is no problem with me



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Edited by PLOWTO (01/23/14 07:37 AM)

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Re: Fake Id For Job ? Questions and any suggestions for me [Re: PLOWTO]
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I really really wouldn't go with the college degree route.  That one seems like it would be easier to get caught and its a felony charge too.


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Re: Fake Id For Job ? Questions and any suggestions for me [Re: DeeBee]
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Bad idea. Don't do it.


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Re: Fake Id For Job ? Questions and any suggestions for me [Re: DeeBee]
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DeeBee said:
I really really wouldn't go with the college degree route.  That one seems like it would be easier to get caught and its a felony charge too.


i googled it like 4 times , allways says not really or not sure or technically not . it's a white collar crime to say the least , and i think it is actually technically not ilegal .

I called denny's , they said someone was hired already . assholes:thumbdown:


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Re: Fake Id For Job ? Questions and any suggestions for me [Re: PLOWTO] * 2
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maybe you aren't getting a job because you are a pathological liar?

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Re: Fake Id For Job ? Questions and any suggestions for me [Re: PLOWTO]
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If you are going to break the law do it so you don't have to have a job, not so you can get a job.  Sell drugs like the rest of the degenerates that post here.


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Re: Fake Id For Job ? Questions and any suggestions for me [Re: DebuteMachine]
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:notsureif:
You're trying to go to all this trouble (and get in all this trouble) just so you can fake being a few years older? And you think that will get you a job??

DebuteMachine said:
maybe you aren't getting a job because you are a pathological liar?


And sound shady as fuck. You'd probably have way better luck if you cut the bullshit and were honest with potential employers. Plenty of people will give a kid a chance to make something of himself. Very few people like liars.

Spending a thousand dollars on a fraudulent identity to get a telemarketing job, jesus :facepalm:

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Re: Fake Id For Job ? Questions and any suggestions for me [Re: Lynnch]
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I can imagine OP at an interview, not being able to shut his mouth and listen to the person doing the interview.

you know those guys right?!!? "i can do this, and i can do that, and this is easy, yadda yadda"

when i have a trainee who is telling me they know what they are doing, when clearly they DO NOT KNOW, i have no tolerance for that. i will give my recommendation to execute the newb immediately. if you can't take instruction, i am not going to bother.

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