zappaisgod said:

You have the option not to struggle.

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YSHServant said:

@Zappa

Have you had this procedure done before? Don't lie.

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millzy said:

zappaisgod said:

You have the option not to struggle.

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that they do. they also have the option to eat, but it would sort of defeat the purpose of a hunger strike.

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sonavapreacha said:

The majority of you extremist apologist idiots have not deployed, and have no idea how much beaurocratic bullshit goes into simply detaining one of these guys, let alone sending them to gitmo. The majority are released back to their houses within 60 days, in spite ofsufficient evidence. We really treat these guys with kid gloves, even knowing for a fact they have attacked soldiers. It can take years of collecting fingerprints, bomb residues, ect. Trust me, I have seen what it takes to put one of these guys in gitmo. When you walk into a house with literally tens of thousands of pounds of fertilizer compound and thousands of feet of remote detonation cord, you will understand.

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zappaisgod said:

I wouldn't myself force feed them but the courts demand it.  It would certainly be idiotic to grant them a release just because they won't eat.  My chosen solution would be to provide them with a sturdy chair on which to stand from which they can tie a rope I will happily supply to a sturdy hook in the ceiling which I will also happily supply.

Don't whine about the tone of the conversation here when you are one of the more snarky participants.  What kind of idiot remark was that about "when you do videos and shit... let me know. i'll maybe give a fuck about your opinion then."?  So this is what you consider a credential for intellectual discussion?  That someone makes a video?

 
Now we know.

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none of you have any idea how low key and practically un-important that video is to the "artist", as he doesn't MAKE VIDEOS. he makes "Raps". ok? so, that was my freaking point... that everyone talking Gitmo being this and that is pointless and irreverent and stupid. almost as stupid as that video. Mos Def is just doing using multi-media platform for hits, because he's an "Activist" (and maybe not a particularly good one but one nonetheless) and it's gonna get him publicity for his "act", if you will. the video (which had nothing to do with Mos Def other then using him as a face) was just publicity and an apolitical "ad" about the situation and how far it's gone... it makes no points, ad hominem, about the situation with Muslim extremism, it only serves as a background for discussion... like the pressingly stupid discussion here... or should i say disscusion?

you freakin' peepholes just like to spin everything. EVERYTHING. worse then the fucking media. you ARE practically the Media.

millzy said:

sonavapreacha said:

The majority of you extremist apologist idiots have not deployed, and have no idea how much beaurocratic bullshit goes into simply detaining one of these guys, let alone sending them to gitmo. The majority are released back to their houses within 60 days, in spite ofsufficient evidence. We really treat these guys with kid gloves, even knowing for a fact they have attacked soldiers. It can take years of collecting fingerprints, bomb residues, ect. Trust me, I have seen what it takes to put one of these guys in gitmo. When you walk into a house with literally tens of thousands of pounds of fertilizer compound and thousands of feet of remote detonation cord, you will understand.

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i'm hardly an apologist for our enemies. but i don't think mistreating them in captivity will help the situation at all.

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psi said:

I suppose only they know their true reasons for doing it. They may or may not really want to die, and probably there is some element of trying to attract publicity (which they appear to be getting.)

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zappaisgod said:

I sincerely doubt that but it certainly is a fact that people have been released from Gitmo who shouldn't have.

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zappaisgod said:

There was nothing apolitical about it.  It was 100% political.  Nor was there anything real about it unless you accept the premise that he is a whiny bitch.  Further, I have personal reasons to loathe the little turd.

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millzy said:

zappaisgod said:

I sincerely doubt that but it certainly is a fact that people have been released from Gitmo who shouldn't have.

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released after years in some cases.

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akira_akuma said:

zappaisgod said:

There was nothing apolitical about it.  It was 100% political.  Nor was there anything real about it unless you accept the premise that he is a whiny bitch.  Further, I have personal reasons to loathe the little turd.

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alright, well you are fucked. you personalizing little man.

(realizes that i am personalizing, but why hate on Mos Def? because you can? oh well, fuck that shit, and fuck this hate fest, wamfatch.

PS: that's a nigwam, with a fatch after the wam.)

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akira_akuma said:

and Frank Zappa, he wasn't grandstanding at all. times a change, and now your government does too much ridiculous shit, even Zap would think of moving to Canada by now.

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zappaisgod said:

YSHServant said:

@Zappa

Have you had this procedure done before? Don't lie.

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Hell fuck no.  I've had far worse shit than that

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YSHServant said:

zappaisgod said:

YSHServant said:

@Zappa

Have you had this procedure done before? Don't lie.

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Hell fuck no.  I've had far worse shit than that

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That's what I thought. I've had lots of painful stuff happen to me. That tube up the nose procedure is the most excruciating pain I've ever felt next to tooth pain.

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