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Yo, I need some ethical guidance. 25I-NBOMe
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So I have a prospective hookup with 100 blotters, each with 1,000 micrograms (a relatively large dose) of 25I-NBOMe.

Just in case you don't know, 25I-NBOMe is a substitute for LSD, only really in use since 2010, and it's supposedly an amazing drug. Plus, due to its new-ness, it's still legal almost everywhere It's been called "the acid of this generation". I was pretty excited to find the hookup.

Only, I was reading up on it, and there are reports of overdoses, and, in some cases, deaths, related to this drug. Few enough that most articles covered the same incidents. And it seems as though most of these stories were about people who took WAY too much, either due to general irresponsibility, or ignorance as to what drug they were taking.

What I want to know is this:
If somebody takes 1000ug of 25I-NBOMe, administered under the tongue, are they putting themselves at risk?

I really want to hear back from people who've actually done some reading on the subject. I'd hate to be responsible for a friend's death, needless to say.


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Don't you think the joker laughs at you?

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Re: Yo, I need some ethical guidance. 25I-NBOMe [Re: ChokingSmoker]
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Yes they are putting themselves at risk. The NBOME series is not like the acid of our day. You cant just take as many blotter tabs as you want and come out fine. It has worse physiological effects than LSD. Tell people whats on the shit. And how much they SHOULD be using.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2ci_nbome/2ci_nbome_dose.shtml
Heres what erowid has to say on the subject


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Re: Yo, I need some ethical guidance. 25I-NBOMe [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
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As long as someone knows what they're taking and the they can do proper research there shouldn't be a problem. The problem is when shady dealers pass this shit off as LSD, and then people are using it under the assumption that it's LSD, which can be dangerous or even deadly in certain circumstances.


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Re: Yo, I need some ethical guidance. 25I-NBOMe [Re: ChokingSmoker] * 2
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Ethically, there aint nothing wrong with 25i. Just educate your customers/friends and don't pass it off as lsd. Don't sell to anyone who might pass it off as lsd. But 25i sucks in my opinion.

ChokingSmoker said:
It's been called "the acid of this generation"


:huxleyfacepalm::feelsbadman:

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Re: Yo, I need some ethical guidance. 25I-NBOMe [Re: Dr. P. Silocybin]
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Thanks a bunch, guys.
I'm thinking of selling it around here, but if I do, I feel like I'm honor-bound not to let people buy more than one dose, to avoid letting them re-sell.

Also, in controlled doses, does it have any long-term bad effects? ("holes in the brain," etc)


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Re: Yo, I need some ethical guidance. 25I-NBOMe [Re: ChokingSmoker]
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No one knows man, there haven't been any studies done on it due to it's novelty.


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Re: Yo, I need some ethical guidance. 25I-NBOMe [Re: ChokingSmoker]
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It's too new to know what the long term effects are. I don't trust it.

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Re: Yo, I need some ethical guidance. 25I-NBOMe [Re: Dr. P. Silocybin]
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Well, fuck. I was pretty hyped for a super cheap legal acid alternative. Is there any other super cheap alternative?

I've done morning glory seeds with really limited success. Nothing but shrooms really beats acid IMO


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Re: Yo, I need some ethical guidance. 25I-NBOMe [Re: ChokingSmoker]
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LSD is pretty cheap..

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Re: Yo, I need some ethical guidance. 25I-NBOMe [Re: Dr. P. Silocybin] * 1
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1 mg of 25i isn't dangerous. As long as anyone who takes it only takes one it should be fine.

And a lot of people talk shit on 25i, but I think it's glorious as fuck personally.

LSD isn't cheap lol, at least not to most people.


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Re: Yo, I need some ethical guidance. 25I-NBOMe [Re: ChokingSmoker] * 2
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It's not a substitute for acid. It shouldn't be compared with acid, at all, ever. It's not even close. It's a completely seperate drug that has nothing to do with acid. Don't take NBOMe looking for acid.

25i is the worst of the NBOMes. You really wouldn't know what to do with 100 hits, trust me. That's a LOT of NBOMe. Instead of 25i, you should look into 25c, it's a much better drug.

Don't take NBOMe looking for acid. NBOMe is it's own completely different drug, and should be taken only by people who want NBOMe specifically.

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Re: Yo, I need some ethical guidance. 25I-NBOMe [Re: nooneman]
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nooneman said:
Don't take NBOMe looking for acid. NBOMe is it's own completely different drug, and should be taken only by people who want NBOMe specifically.


Word. No one should ever take any drug looking for acid. Barring LSD analogues I've never tried, no drug is gonna be able to substitute L.


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Re: Yo, I need some ethical guidance. 25I-NBOMe [Re: ChokingSmoker] * 2
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ChokingSmoker said:
It's been called "the acid of this generation" .



ohh noo.... please everyone never say that so it stops being called that.

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Re: Yo, I need some ethical guidance. 25I-NBOMe [Re: ChokingSmoker]
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What's the ethical dilemma?  You're just asking for drug info, as far as I can tell.  UTFSE.

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Re: Yo, I need some ethical guidance. 25I-NBOMe [Re: ChokingSmoker]
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ChokingSmoker said:
So I have a prospective hookup with 100 blotters, each with 1,000 micrograms (a relatively large dose) of 25I-NBOMe.

Just in case you don't know, 25I-NBOMe is a substitute for LSD, only really in use since 2010, and it's supposedly an amazing drug. Plus, due to its new-ness, it's still legal almost everywhere It's been called "the acid of this generation". I was pretty excited to find the hookup.

Only, I was reading up on it, and there are reports of overdoses, and, in some cases, deaths, related to this drug. Few enough that most articles covered the same incidents. And it seems as though most of these stories were about people who took WAY too much, either due to general irresponsibility, or ignorance as to what drug they were taking.

What I want to know is this:
If somebody takes 1000ug of 25I-NBOMe, administered under the tongue, are they putting themselves at risk?

I really want to hear back from people who've actually done some reading on the subject. I'd hate to be responsible for a friend's death, needless to say.


Just do not misrepresent it as LSD. Make it perfectly clear that what you have is 25i-NBOMe. Write "25i, not LSD" all over the blotter in pen if you have to.

And yes, it is an amazing drug, but has nowhere near the safety profile of LSD. If someone took too much, they could be in trouble. And as someone who usually takes at least 3 tabs of acid, 3 tabs of that 25i (at 3 mg total) would be one hell of an overdose (hopefully nonfatal) for most people.


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Re: Yo, I need some ethical guidance. 25I-NBOMe [Re: nooneman]
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nooneman said:
Instead of 25i, you should look into 25c, it's a much better drug.



explain what you mean.


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Re: Yo, I need some ethical guidance. 25I-NBOMe [Re: propensity]
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Dr. P. Silocybin said:
LSD is pretty cheap..


propensity said:
1 mg of 25i isn't dangerous. As long as anyone who takes it only takes one it should be fine.

And a lot of people talk shit on 25i, but I think it's glorious as fuck personally.

LSD isn't cheap lol, at least not to most people.


LSD definitely isn't cheap. 25i is like 50 cents a hit, tops.

I'm curious though. What do you love about it, compared with L? I've only dropped acid once. on 4 hits (unknown dosage) It didn't seem too "spiritual" to me, and my visuals were really just a slight warping of details. Words crawling around on a page, lines breathing, etc. Beyond that shit just felt really profound


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You'll never know how little you know, because it's all you know. You know?

Don't you think the joker laughs at you?

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Re: Yo, I need some ethical guidance. 25I-NBOMe [Re: Burke Dennings]
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Burke Dennings said:
What's the ethical dilemma?  You're just asking for drug info, as far as I can tell.  UTFSE.


I already checked the site for any valuable info I could find. In fact this is where I found a lot of the stories I mentioned. This is a discussion thread, yo. Don't bring your hate here.


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You'll never know how little you know, because it's all you know. You know?

Don't you think the joker laughs at you?

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Re: Yo, I need some ethical guidance. 25I-NBOMe [Re: ChokingSmoker]
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If that's all you got off of 4 "hits" of 25i, you probably got a very weak dose. Most people can hardly do math properly, so I'd never count on someone else to dilute their highly active phenethylamines in liquid solution properly, personally speaking.

Some of us standardize our hits to 500 micrograms. Two of those would be a very nice ride. Most of my friends report that 750 ug is best for them.


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Re: Yo, I need some ethical guidance. 25I-NBOMe [Re: ChokingSmoker]
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Erowid.org Use it


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