Anonymous #11 said:

Anonymous #5 said:

I hate the cowards in this thread, #12 and #14 especially.

Lets make it the other way around, you can be the 12 year old Iraqi orphan, and we'll give them vastly superior technology and armour.

....You know, that stuff that you wouldn't be all macho without?

Lets see how you fare you fucking pussy. I don't understand how anyone can be into psychedelics and have no respect for life. fuck you.

We are on topic. This man is considering joining the military, and our advice is to not do it. That's not off topic. Stupid cunt.

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Yes, I am very "macho" without my technology, though I'm not sure what that has to do with a 12 year old iraqi.

You have no clue what goes on overseas while deployed. Try being on a mission for 48+ hours with no sleep, little ammo/supply and injured in a wasteland trying to keep you and your friends alive while being attacked by religous fanatics high on khat and speed who do not possess any respect for life...yours, his or anyone's.

Then see how macho you feel you ignorant, naive prick.

You have no right to comment unless you have served (for whatever reason)


Is the war a good war? a just war? why are we there and what are we doing? Are we helping?    None of that matters as a soldier, you sign up with good intentions in your heart knowing you may very well do things in the line of duty that you will regret or not agree with.

It's another way of saying to your people "i am here if you need me and I will defend the citizens of my home with my life"

It's up to citizens, communities, leaders, the people themselves to say hey this war is fucked up let's not do this. Vote, rally, petition fight, protest....anything.

I didn't want to have to bear the brunt of combat/war anymore than you do...but I did. I wish the citizens of the US did more to prevent these wars so I didn't have to fight them, because I bear the brunt of war... not them.

So fuck you

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Anonymous #7 said:

But can you not see the wars in the middle east aren't fought to protect America?

One of the main reason troops are in Afghanistan is to stop the drug trade.
Iraq was an illegal war, completely unjustified.
There's illegal and unsanctioned drone attacks in Pakistan all the time, which kills a fuck load of 'suspected' terrorists, who are more often than not innocent.

Who wins in these wars?
Civilians are killed, others are turned into terrorists/freedom fighters depending on your point of view, because of how America has came in and shot up everyone.
Soldiers are killed, while not protecting anyone they care about back home.
The hate against the west is increased, increasing the likelihood of terrorist attacks.
A few potential terrorists are killed too, but if the government spent the money they do on the war on airport security and anti terrorism activities in the US they would be doing a lot more to protect the American people.

Who do these wars protect?

Not anyone in the US.

I respect the troops  because many of them have been misguided into believing they are protecting their country.

But OP don't become a part of this

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Is the war a good war? a just war? why are we there and what are we doing? Are we helping?    None of that matters as a soldier, you sign up with good intentions in your heart knowing you may very well do things in the line of duty that you will regret or not agree with.

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It's another way of saying to your people "i am here if you need me and I will defend the citizens of my home with my life"

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It's up to citizens, communities, leaders, the people themselves to say hey this war is fucked up let's not do this. Vote, rally, petition fight, protest....anything.

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Anonymous #7 said:

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Is the war a good war? a just war? why are we there and what are we doing? Are we helping?    None of that matters as a soldier, you sign up with good intentions in your heart knowing you may very well do things in the line of duty that you will regret or not agree with.

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Why the fuck does that not matter? I had good intentions while I was killing those Iraqi/Afghan innocents. That makes it ok.

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It's another way of saying to your people "i am here if you need me and I will defend the citizens of my home with my life"

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Who are you defending? It's not like the US is being invaded by brown people.
The citizens of your home are at home, safe. You are not protecting them.

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It's up to citizens, communities, leaders, the people themselves to say hey this war is fucked up let's not do this. Vote, rally, petition fight, protest....anything.

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You're right, remember that you are also a citizen, if no one signed up to fight in these illegal wars, then they could not happen. That's the only way to do it.
You're falling back on 'It was only orders', just like the pig arresting a harmless stoner.

The government doesn't listen. 36 million people around the world protested the Iraq war, but nothing happened. 1 million people gathered in London, and also in Barcelona. Nothing.

Take responsibility for your actions.

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Anonymous #12 said:

Anonymous #7 said:

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Is the war a good war? a just war? why are we there and what are we doing? Are we helping?    None of that matters as a soldier, you sign up with good intentions in your heart knowing you may very well do things in the line of duty that you will regret or not agree with.

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Why the fuck does that not matter? I had good intentions while I was killing those Iraqi/Afghan innocents. That makes it ok.

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It's another way of saying to your people "i am here if you need me and I will defend the citizens of my home with my life"

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Who are you defending? It's not like the US is being invaded by brown people.
The citizens of your home are at home, safe. You are not protecting them.

Quote:

It's up to citizens, communities, leaders, the people themselves to say hey this war is fucked up let's not do this. Vote, rally, petition fight, protest....anything.

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You're right, remember that you are also a citizen, if no one signed up to fight in these illegal wars, then they could not happen. That's the only way to do it.
You're falling back on 'It was only orders', just like the pig arresting a harmless stoner.

The government doesn't listen. 36 million people around the world protested the Iraq war, but nothing happened. 1 million people gathered in London, and also in Barcelona. Nothing.

Take responsibility for your actions.

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Lol #7, I'd love to see you in real life and confirm that you're a huge pussy.

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Anonymous #7 said:

Quote:

Is the war a good war? a just war? why are we there and what are we doing? Are we helping?    None of that matters as a soldier, you sign up with good intentions in your heart knowing you may very well do things in the line of duty that you will regret or not agree with.

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Why the fuck does that not matter? I had good intentions while I was killing those Iraqi/Afghan innocents. That makes it ok.

Quote:

It's another way of saying to your people "i am here if you need me and I will defend the citizens of my home with my life"

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Who are you defending? It's not like the US is being invaded by brown people.
The citizens of your home are at home, safe. You are not protecting them.

Quote:

It's up to citizens, communities, leaders, the people themselves to say hey this war is fucked up let's not do this. Vote, rally, petition fight, protest....anything.

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You're right, remember that you are also a citizen, if no one signed up to fight in these illegal wars, then they could not happen. That's the only way to do it.
You're falling back on 'It was only orders', just like the pig arresting a harmless stoner.

The government doesn't listen. 36 million people around the world protested the Iraq war, but nothing happened. 1 million people gathered in London, and also in Barcelona. Nothing.

Take responsibility for your actions.

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Anonymous #16 said:

Anonymous #11 said:

Anonymous #5 said:

I hate the cowards in this thread, #12 and #14 especially.

Lets make it the other way around, you can be the 12 year old Iraqi orphan, and we'll give them vastly superior technology and armour.

....You know, that stuff that you wouldn't be all macho without?

Lets see how you fare you fucking pussy. I don't understand how anyone can be into psychedelics and have no respect for life. fuck you.

We are on topic. This man is considering joining the military, and our advice is to not do it. That's not off topic. Stupid cunt.

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Yes, I am very "macho" without my technology, though I'm not sure what that has to do with a 12 year old iraqi.

You have no clue what goes on overseas while deployed. Try being on a mission for 48+ hours with no sleep, little ammo/supply and injured in a wasteland trying to keep you and your friends alive while being attacked by religous fanatics high on khat and speed who do not possess any respect for life...yours, his or anyone's.

Then see how macho you feel you ignorant, naive prick.

You have no right to comment unless you have served (for whatever reason)


Is the war a good war? a just war? why are we there and what are we doing? Are we helping?    None of that matters as a soldier, you sign up with good intentions in your heart knowing you may very well do things in the line of duty that you will regret or not agree with.

It's another way of saying to your people "i am here if you need me and I will defend the citizens of my home with my life"

It's up to citizens, communities, leaders, the people themselves to say hey this war is fucked up let's not do this. Vote, rally, petition fight, protest....anything.

I didn't want to have to bear the brunt of combat/war anymore than you do...but I did. I wish the citizens of the US did more to prevent these wars so I didn't have to fight them, because I bear the brunt of war... not them.

So fuck you

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Anonymous #1 said:

you guys are kind operating under the assumption that I'm living under a rock and know nothing about US Geopolitics.

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Anonymous #7 said:

officer who trained you?

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You know nothing about the army. Officers interacting with enlisted? In your dreams. Officers are better than enlisted, atleast that's what they've been taught.  They don't train you because they're better than you. Other enlisted train you.

Anonymous #7 said:

So you don't deny the brainwashing?
And your reply is to correct me on a minor detail?


You're clutching at straws here.

Have you served on active duty #6?

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I wasn't arguing any of your points just pointing out you don't know the army. Yes i have served. And they do brain wash you. But not all the soldiers are brainwashed, some had no other choice. Like me at the time. You do what you gotta do.