OMGYAY said:

i saw it...pretty awesome
but pretty fuckin retarded how they took 3 hours just to set up a story. nothing really happened. it was very long and drawn out and didnt really have much of a plot.

but i guess thats what these movies do. now they get 3 movies worth of profit instead of just one.
makes sense i guess

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Bassfreak said:

yeah im not gonna bother with this series

its all about the money

at least lotr was actually a trilogy

the hobbit was one book so it shud be one movie


but no, u gotta add a bunch of extra bullshit story lines and more BS so u can make 3, 3 hour movies out of it

fuck that

and u gotta wait like what, 2 or 3 years btwn movies? fuck peter jackson and lotr, star wars kicks its ass

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amilibertine said:

Bassfreak said:

yeah im not gonna bother with this series

its all about the money

at least lotr was actually a trilogy

the hobbit was one book so it shud be one movie


but no, u gotta add a bunch of extra bullshit story lines and more BS so u can make 3, 3 hour movies out of it

fuck that

and u gotta wait like what, 2 or 3 years btwn movies? fuck peter jackson and lotr, star wars kicks its ass

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All that extra "bullshit" would actually have been part of The Hobbit if Tolkien would have lived.  He planned to rewrite the entire book.  Many of these plot points and notes are in the appendices of LOTR. 

It's not like Peter Jackson is just making these things up in his head.  As a Tolkien fan, I love it.  It ties both stories together and makes the world seem more believable.

I thought this first film was funny, engrossing, action packed, sad, and inspiring.  Just like it was intended to be.  It's not Peter Jackson's fault that people love these stories, and he and his production team do them serious justice.  Just watch the appendices on the LOTR Extended trilogy and see how complex and intricate every part of production is.  It's mind-blowing.  Almost no one in Hollywood can make a great film anymore.

Oh, and for your information, LOTR was intended as one book.  The publishers refused to print it as one book and forced Tolkien to split it into 3 books.  It was never intended as a trilogy. 

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Bassfreak said:

amilibertine said:

Bassfreak said:

yeah im not gonna bother with this series

its all about the money

at least lotr was actually a trilogy

the hobbit was one book so it shud be one movie


but no, u gotta add a bunch of extra bullshit story lines and more BS so u can make 3, 3 hour movies out of it

fuck that

and u gotta wait like what, 2 or 3 years btwn movies? fuck peter jackson and lotr, star wars kicks its ass

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All that extra "bullshit" would actually have been part of The Hobbit if Tolkien would have lived.  He planned to rewrite the entire book.  Many of these plot points and notes are in the appendices of LOTR. 

It's not like Peter Jackson is just making these things up in his head.  As a Tolkien fan, I love it.  It ties both stories together and makes the world seem more believable.

I thought this first film was funny, engrossing, action packed, sad, and inspiring.  Just like it was intended to be.  It's not Peter Jackson's fault that people love these stories, and he and his production team do them serious justice.  Just watch the appendices on the LOTR Extended trilogy and see how complex and intricate every part of production is.  It's mind-blowing.  Almost no one in Hollywood can make a great film anymore.

Oh, and for your information, LOTR was intended as one book.  The publishers refused to print it as one book and forced Tolkien to split it into 3 books.  It was never intended as a trilogy. 

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peter jackson said a long time ago he was gonna make this movie ONE movie, not 3, and he also said it wouldnt be in 3D, but it is

its clearly about the money

i will not endorse this series on principle, plus its probly pretty gay and not nearly as good as lotr anyways

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amilibertine said:

Bassfreak said:

amilibertine said:

Bassfreak said:

yeah im not gonna bother with this series

its all about the money

at least lotr was actually a trilogy

the hobbit was one book so it shud be one movie


but no, u gotta add a bunch of extra bullshit story lines and more BS so u can make 3, 3 hour movies out of it

fuck that

and u gotta wait like what, 2 or 3 years btwn movies? fuck peter jackson and lotr, star wars kicks its ass

---

All that extra "bullshit" would actually have been part of The Hobbit if Tolkien would have lived.  He planned to rewrite the entire book.  Many of these plot points and notes are in the appendices of LOTR. 

It's not like Peter Jackson is just making these things up in his head.  As a Tolkien fan, I love it.  It ties both stories together and makes the world seem more believable.

I thought this first film was funny, engrossing, action packed, sad, and inspiring.  Just like it was intended to be.  It's not Peter Jackson's fault that people love these stories, and he and his production team do them serious justice.  Just watch the appendices on the LOTR Extended trilogy and see how complex and intricate every part of production is.  It's mind-blowing.  Almost no one in Hollywood can make a great film anymore.

Oh, and for your information, LOTR was intended as one book.  The publishers refused to print it as one book and forced Tolkien to split it into 3 books.  It was never intended as a trilogy. 

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peter jackson said a long time ago he was gonna make this movie ONE movie, not 3, and he also said it wouldnt be in 3D, but it is

its clearly about the money

i will not endorse this series on principle, plus its probly pretty gay and not nearly as good as lotr anyways

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That's cool man.  Miss out.  That's your right, even if your reason for doing so makes no sense. 

If it was truly "just about the money" then these movies would suck.  You like the LOTR trilogy even though it made over a billion dollars.

The film was expanded into more than one film because if you tried to be faithful to the book and tell it in one movie you would either have a 6 hour movie, or a movie that cuts huge chunks out of the book.

That's why it was expanded, to do it justice.  Of course making money is a factor.  If you think it isn't a factor in every Hollywood film ever made then your nuts.  And if you like any film that made money you're a hypocrite.

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amilibertine said:

Okie dokie.

You win.  You're the all-knowing, all-seeing epitome of truth.  I, on the other hand, have no knowledge.  I forgot that LOTR is ONE book, not three.  I forgot that the goal of a movie was to make money and has absolutely nothing to do with entertainment. 

You make me feel better about myself.  Thank you.

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EvolveShrooms said:

I watched it yesterday in 3D, and I was on acid, so it was pretty tight. Movie flew by. When the 3 hours ended I was like holy fuck that was short, so I snuck into Life Of Pi and watched that too.

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amilibertine said:

You're correct.  LOTR is over 1,000 pages, which is precisely why the publishers forced Tolkien to split it in thirds as the cost of printing a book so large in those days would have prevented most people from being able to afford it. 

If it was printed today it would be a single book.

Also, since each of the LOTR movies was over 3 hours long and the average movie is about 90 minutes I'd say they could have easily made 6 movies out of it.

And sorry, I don't take Tolkien's work as seriously as you seem to believe.  The problem here isn't my facts on these works.  The problem is you have no idea what you're talking about.  Like how you keep referring to LOTR as a trilogy when it is no such thing. 

But I'm done arguing with you.  I made this thread to discuss the movie, not to school someone who doesn't know the facts about Tolkien's work or it's history.  So ahead and make your predictable response to this post and then go find another thread to spread misinformation in. 

This thread is for the discussion of the The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey, not a thread to argue easily debunked claims about the source material, nor the financial goals of the movies producers, nor to show just how cynical and uninformed someone can be on a subject they clearly know nothing about.  Sorry if I like Tolkien's work and know a thing  or two about it and it's author. 



So once again, who has SEEN this movie and what did you think?  It's okay if you didn't like it.  Just don't weigh in with unnecessary negativity if you haven't seen this film.

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