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Re: Alex Grey is an "Awesome Visionary", or a "Mediocre Auto-Plagiar"? [Re: millzy]
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His artwork is Mediocre :stoned:

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Re: Alex Grey is an "Awesome Visionary", or a "Mediocre Auto-Plagiar"? [Re: Crypt Keeper]
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Crypt Keeper said:
If I was able to paint average paintings without shadowing and complex shit, I could trip and paint the same kind of stuff.


sure you could.

i think what most people have a problem with is gray's commercial success. in some cases that can really ruin an artist, but in gray's case he seems to be getting better with age. that shulgin portrait is recent and it's much more vivid and intense than his stuff from the 80's imo.


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Re: Alex Grey is an "Awesome Visionary", or a "Mediocre Auto-Plagiar"? [Re: shroomie_glen]
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I hadn't heard of this guy by name, but I recognize a lot of the paintings. It seems like a lot of people are knocking him on the basis that his work seems overrated. Some of the images do seem a bit uninspired or derivative, but overall I'd say I find a lot of them pretty interesting. As for artists who make a career out of half-assed rehashes of their earlier works, I'd say Andy Warhol was a better example. IMO none of his stuff that I've seen was ever all that good, but he was able to just coast on fumes for years and years.

An artist who some of this Grey guy's stuff reminds me of a little (particularly the tree with tits one) is William Kurelek. His paintings range from subdued farmland scenes to full-out apocalyptic visions. Some of the farmland type pictures will have something menacing like a mushroom cloud in the distance if you look closely. Stylistically it's not very similar otherwise though.


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Re: Alex Grey is an "Awesome Visionary", or a "Mediocre Auto-Plagiar"? [Re: millzy]
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I LOVE that Shulgin painting... one of my faves.


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Re: Alex Grey is an "Awesome Visionary", or a "Mediocre Auto-Plagiar"? [Re: Crypt Keeper] * 2
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Crypt Keeper said:
If I was able to paint average paintings without shadowing and complex shit, I could trip and paint the same kind of stuff. He's alright but is over-hyped and sensationalized.



No you couldn't. I know people like to think they get magical powers
when they trip but Im sorry its just not the case :lol:

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Re: Alex Grey is an "Awesome Visionary", or a "Mediocre Auto-Plagiar"? [Re: DeadHearts] * 1
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DeadHearts said:
Crypt Keeper said:
If I was able to paint average paintings without shadowing and complex shit, I could trip and paint the same kind of stuff. He's alright but is over-hyped and sensationalized.



No you couldn't. I know people like to think they get magical powers
when they trip but Im sorry its just not the case :lol:


nah dude, without the shadows all that shit's super easy.


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Re: Alex Grey is an "Awesome Visionary", or a "Mediocre Auto-Plagiar"? [Re: millzy] * 2
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Anybody who takes acid in anatomy class can be Alex Grey. :tard:


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You really are the worst kind of person.


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Re: Alex Grey is an "Awesome Visionary", or a "Mediocre Auto-Plagiar"? [Re: millzy]
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millzy said:
DeadHearts said:
Crypt Keeper said:
If I was able to paint average paintings without shadowing and complex shit, I could trip and paint the same kind of stuff. He's alright but is over-hyped and sensationalized.



No you couldn't. I know people like to think they get magical powers
when they trip but Im sorry its just not the case :lol:


nah dude, without the shadows all that shit's super easy.



Prove it.

If you are an "average" painter you can not just magically duplicate what Alex
does. You are batshit crazy if you think thats possible. Maybe in the case of
an idiot savant or some shit but certainly from not taking drugs.

Without the shadows and stuff? :facepalm:

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Re: Alex Grey is an "Awesome Visionary", or a "Mediocre Auto-Plagiar"? [Re: Crypt Keeper] * 1
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Crypt Keeper said:
If I was able to paint average paintings without shadowing and complex shit, I could trip and paint the same kind of stuff.


:bathtub40lol:  :justno:


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Re: Alex Grey is an "Awesome Visionary", or a "Mediocre Auto-Plagiar"? [Re: DeadHearts]
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DeadHearts said:
millzy said:
If I was able to paint average paintings without shadowing and complex shit, I could trip and paint the same kind of stuff. He's alright but is over-hyped and sensationalized.



No you couldn't. I know people like to think they get magical powers
when they trip but Im sorry its just not the case :lol:


nah dude, without the shadows all that shit's super easy.



Prove it.

If you are an "average" painter you can not just magically duplicate what Alex
does. You are batshit crazy if you think thats possible. Maybe in the case of
an idiot savant or some shit but certainly from not taking drugs.

Without the shadows and stuff? :facepalm:


sarcasm is one of the many services i offer.


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Re: Alex Grey is an "Awesome Visionary", or a "Mediocre Auto-Plagiar"? [Re: millzy] * 1
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I tried auto-plagio once and I couldn't get my dick all the way to my mouth.

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Re: Alex Grey is an "Awesome Visionary", or a "Mediocre Auto-Plagiar"? [Re: millzy]
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millzy said:
DeadHearts said:
millzy said:
If I was able to paint average paintings without shadowing and complex shit, I could trip and paint the same kind of stuff. He's alright but is over-hyped and sensationalized.



No you couldn't. I know people like to think they get magical powers
when they trip but Im sorry its just not the case :lol:


nah dude, without the shadows all that shit's super easy.



Prove it.

If you are an "average" painter you can not just magically duplicate what Alex
does. You are batshit crazy if you think thats possible. Maybe in the case of
an idiot savant or some shit but certainly from not taking drugs.

Without the shadows and stuff? :facepalm:


sarcasm is one of the many services i offer.



Hard to pick up on things like sarcasm on the interwebs sometimes mannnn :stoned:

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Re: Alex Grey is an "Awesome Visionary", or a "Mediocre Auto-Plagiar"? [Re: DeadHearts]
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DeadHearts said:
Hard to pick up on things like sarcasm on the interwebs sometimes mannnn :stoned:


Internet sarcasm is an art form.


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Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.


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Re: Alex Grey is an "Awesome Visionary", or a "Mediocre Auto-Plagiar"? [Re: DeadHearts]
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I think Alex Gray is just one of those people who may be a good artist, but got too hung up on a particular concept.
I feel like he never would've been famous if he'd tried conventional art. But in an area such as the drug culture, with such a small and dedicated following, somebody with a trippy style can be immensely popular.

There are more talented artists out there, but Alex Gray had an original and distinctive idea. Sadly, the appreciation of his style caused him to stagnate and become more of a one-trick pony.
:2cents:


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Re: Alex Grey is an "Awesome Visionary", or a "Mediocre Auto-Plagiar"? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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BlindSophist said:
DeadHearts said:
Hard to pick up on things like sarcasm on the interwebs sometimes mannnn :stoned:


Internet sarcasm is an art form.


and i'm clearly no alex grey.



















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Re: Alex Grey is an "Awesome Visionary", or a "Mediocre Auto-Plagiar"? [Re: millzy]
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millzy said:
i think it's fine to not like his work, but denying that he's astronomically fucking talented is a bit much.


who's saying he's not talented?


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Re: Alex Grey is an "Awesome Visionary", or a "Mediocre Auto-Plagiar"? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
millzy said:
i think it's fine to not like his work, but denying that he's astronomically fucking talented is a bit much.


who's saying he's not talented?


I would deny the "astronomically fucking" part. But I guess that's subjective.


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Re: Alex Grey is an "Awesome Visionary", or a "Mediocre Auto-Plagiar"? [Re: Meteloides]
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as I was saying, he should have been a biomedical artist, he's good at
drawing brains, veins and male reproductive organs


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Re: Alex Grey is an "Awesome Visionary", or a "Mediocre Auto-Plagiar"? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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He would make a great subversive graffiti artist in a dystopian future. :strokebeard:


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Re: Alex Grey is an "Awesome Visionary", or a "Mediocre Auto-Plagiar"? [Re: millzy]
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millzy said:
BlindSophist said:
DeadHearts said:
Hard to pick up on things like sarcasm on the interwebs sometimes mannnn :stoned:


Internet sarcasm is an art form.


and i'm clearly no alex grey.




















:omgz:


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Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.


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