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Re: spreading the word on the african tyrant, joseph kony [Re: All We Perceive]
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All We Perceive said:
Your babbling about male circumcision has no bearing on this thread.  Please get the fuck out and go make your own.  :minigun:



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Re: spreading the word on the african tyrant, joseph kony [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
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reeferaddict69 said:
DeadHearts said:
If you do not get it then you are lost.



Ok, howbout this DeadHearts.  Explain why we should continue circumcising the male population?




LISTEN. I get it. We do not need to do this as it is not needed whatsoever (Male circumcision).

But what they do over in Africa is brutal beyond words man. How can you not see
what we are talking about. Example. I myself am circumcised and I am happy about
it because I could not imagine having an anteater looking cock. Now say you are
a girl in whatever Uganda. You now have a "vagina" in which the clit was removed
to prevent any kind of pleasure coming your way and in some case no vagina at all.

ITS SO MUCH WORSE FOR THE FEMALE! In Africa. Like it doesnt even come close
whatsoever!

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Re: spreading the word on the african tyrant, joseph kony [Re: DeadHearts]
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Re: spreading the word on the african tyrant, joseph kony [Re: demonofchaos]
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I don't see anything errant.  :justdontknow:  Business infrastructure costs a fuckton of money.  Just looking at their sheets, the most surprising value is costs associated with film production but considering its effect on their donations, seems like a worthwhile investment.  Correct me if I'm wrong here; haven't taken an accounting class since college.


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"plus they atually think jambands are good or sumthing, so they clearly know absolutely nothing about music, clearly lol" -Bassfreak

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Re: spreading the word on the african tyrant, joseph kony... now with links! [Re: All We Perceive] * 1
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TO OP
I hope you understand the organisation you are advocating.

The not-for-profit has come under fire for its own support of the Ugandan military, armed to fight Kony, which itself has faced accusations of rape, murder and brazen crimes against civilians.
In October last year the US announced it would send troops to Central Africa to aid in support and in November 2011 the US Department of State stated its concerns about Uganda's military.

There are also reports about 70 per cent of the organisation's income goes to film making, salaries and travel expenses.US-based Charity Navigator gives the group a low two-star rating for lack of financial accountability.

While kony needs to be removed, id be careful who you blindly send money to, and ASK OTHER PEOPLE to send their money to

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Re: spreading the word on the african tyrant, joseph kony... now with links! [Re: xoanon] * 2
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:yesnod:^

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Re: spreading the word on the african tyrant, joseph kony... now with links! [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
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akira_akuma said:
:yesnod:^




Agreed.

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Re: spreading the word on the african tyrant, joseph kony... now with links! [Re: xoanon]
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Links?  Let me provide a few of my own.  So what if they have spent money on movies and other "non-primary" stuff.  Clearly from how viral their movies have gotten, it seems to have been a good investment.

Charity navigator's 3 star review. 
http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=12429

The United States Bureau of African Affairs (an arm of the Dept. of State) report from dec. 11:
http://www.state.gov/p/af/rls/rm/2011/178501.htm

No where in that report does it state the Ugandan military is engaging in the things you describe.


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"plus they atually think jambands are good or sumthing, so they clearly know absolutely nothing about music, clearly lol" -Bassfreak

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Re: spreading the word on the african tyrant, joseph kony [Re: All We Perceive]
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reeferaddict, make your own thread.

As for Kony 2012, all I can say is it's a goddamn shame that a group as inefficient as Invisible Children is the one to "help the children."

http://www.sabotagetimes.com/life/kony-2012-why-im-opposed-to-the-campaign/

I'm not saying that the cause isn't a righteous one, because some sort of intervention is most certainly in order, but do we really want these people to be the ones helping? The money raised needs to be going to the best use possible, and I just can't see that they're doing that. I understand there are operating costs, and if I could see the costs laid out then I may be more lenient, but there's no transparency here and that leaves me with a sour taste in my mouth.

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Re: spreading the word on the african tyrant, joseph kony [Re: SOLID BASTARD]
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Interesting read, thanks for posting.  I too would appreciate greater transparency :thumbup:  I am, however, pretty unconvinced by the article.  If the military's "widespread" rape and pillaging was as bad as the LRA's, why would none of this appear in the Dept of State's report?


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"plus they atually think jambands are good or sumthing, so they clearly know absolutely nothing about music, clearly lol" -Bassfreak

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Re: spreading the word on the african tyrant, joseph kony [Re: All We Perceive] * 1
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All We Perceive said:
Interesting read, thanks for posting.  I too would appreciate greater transparency :thumbup:  I am, however, pretty unconvinced by the article.  If the military's "widespread" rape and pillaging was as bad as the LRA's, why would none of this appear in the Dept of State's report?




Because the US doesn't want to put their new bases in Uganda at risk....they gotta kiss the Ugandan gov's ass so they can have a military presence there.


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Re: spreading the word on the african tyrant, joseph kony [Re: starfire_xes] * 1
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:trololol:  Like uganda could do anything about that.


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"plus they atually think jambands are good or sumthing, so they clearly know absolutely nothing about music, clearly lol" -Bassfreak

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Re: spreading the word on the african tyrant, joseph kony [Re: All We Perceive]
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I'm not there and therefore I couldn't even begin to make an educated guess. What I can say is that there is a violent, ongoing revolution occurring in Bahrain that is heavily underreported on and has been all but ignored by the U.S. So, at this point, I'm incapable of being surprised by our leaders' antics and wouldn't in the least be surprised to learn that someone "accidentally" left that tidbit of information out of official documents.

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Re: spreading the word on the african tyrant, joseph kony [Re: SOLID BASTARD]
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Cutless said:
I'm not there and therefore I couldn't even begin to make an educated guess. What I can say is that there is a violent, ongoing revolution occurring in Bahrain that is heavily underreported on and has been all but ignored by the U.S. So, at this point, I'm incapable of being surprised by our leaders' antics and wouldn't in the least be surprised to learn that someone "accidentally" left that tidbit of information out of official documents.




I sighed heavily when I read this. Its hard to imagine the thought process
of our "leaders". Logic would be scarce.

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Re: spreading the word on the african tyrant, joseph kony [Re: DeadHearts] * 1
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Re: spreading the word on the african tyrant, joseph kony [Re: atayia] * 1
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haha saw this on facebook.

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Re: spreading the word on the african tyrant, joseph kony [Re: All We Perceive] * 1
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http://www.hrw.org/news/2005/09/19/uganda-army-and-rebels-commit-atrocities-north

Joseph Kony isn't the only bad guy over there, don't forget to learn about the other side too, the Ugandan government/army that U.S. troops are helping.

http://www.amnestyusa.org/research/reports/annual-report-uganda-2011

Some of the Ugandan government and army's actions: arbitrary searches, arrests, and unlawful detentions, widespread torture of prisoners and civilians, (willful) use of lethal force on civilians, the deportation of 1700 Rwandan refugees, intimidation and harassment of political dissenters, looting and destruction of private property, forced labor in prisons, harsh penalties for homosexuality, as well as a law giving the government much much more discretion of domestic surveillance than the PATRIOT act in this country.

Yes, Jospeh Kony is a terrible man and should be brought to justice, but that video is pretty biased and gives a very narrow perspective of the situation over there.


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All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. -Gandalf

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Re: spreading the word on the african tyrant, joseph kony [Re: hockeyplyr1057]
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phew! read the first page of this thread and thought no! not the shroomery turning into a circlejerk of ignorance!

here are a couple of other links, damn good reads, apologies of they've been posted earlier.

http://isthereanybodyaliveoutthere.tumblr.com/post/18894357359/we-got-trouble#notes

http://ilto.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/the-visible-problem-with-invisible-children/

I'm all for the spreading of conscientious consciousness, but hesitate with this one as there is a massive risk of control C control V control forget about it and jerk off attitude.

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Re: spreading the word on the african tyrant, joseph kony... now with links! [Re: All We Perceive]
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On a note unrelated to all the offtopicness, I just watched the Dutch national news on primetime, and lo and behold: mr Kony's mug was on there, including what he's done and that he's wanted by the Tribunal.

Great :thumbup:


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