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military + drug stuff
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As a member of this community, it is a matter of the obvious that I have done drugs.  Considering that prior drug use (besides 10x marijuana in your life) is an absolute ban on enlisting, what are the chances of getting caught if you say you have never done anything?  Considering the garbage job market where people enlist who otherwise would not be interested, I would imagine this happens all the time?

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Re: military + drug stuff [Re: Anonymous #1]
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How would you get caught? Stop doing drugs so you can pass a test, or don't enlist.

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Re: military + drug stuff [Re: Anonymous #2]
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Well yeah.  I'm just concerned about things I have done in the past give their no drugs in your lifetime thing.  Do they conduct any sort of background checks or anything?  I assume not?

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Re: military + drug stuff [Re: Anonymous #1]
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I imagine they do background checks, as in criminal & financial. Maybe to even go as far as looking up old social networking sites but what else could they do? Interview kids in high school you may have smoked joints with? Perhaps it depends on the branch but I know plenty of kids with colorful pasts that are actively enlisted.

But why would you want to join in the first place? I'll pass.

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Re: military + drug stuff [Re: Anonymous #3]
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Job experience. + loan forgiveness. It would be air force in a noncombat role so it wouldn't be too bad.  I'm just concerned they parooze your facebook chats or something.  I'm certain I have incriminating info in there.  I have no problem saying ive never done anything but I don't want them to go digging around and find out different.

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Re: military + drug stuff [Re: Anonymous #1]
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I wouldn't worry about it.  Delete any posts on facebook relating to that shit, but unless your position in the military requires a security clearance, you're straight.

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Re: military + drug stuff [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Disable/delete/self-censor your Facebook and chill the fuck out. Make 100% sure you're clean. If you piss dirty, you're banned for life.

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Re: military + drug stuff [Re: Anonymous #5]
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And if you try and get a job with a higher security clearance, they'll do a more in-depth background check. But if you're just shooting for a low-level job, they're not going to blow big money on sorting thru your dirty laundry.

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Re: military + drug stuff [Re: Anonymous #5]
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i don't know if i could live with myself for being dishonest with the armed services.  Knowing that I lied to them after all they did for me, and that they deserved to have someone better than me as a recruit.

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Re: military + drug stuff [Re: Anonymous #6]
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The military's drug policy is based on a broken policy pursued by the Federal government. If you're enlisted, you shouldn't use drugs while on duty. However, simply for dabbling in your youth is no reason to blackball folks.

Those benefits are earned, not just given.

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Re: military + drug stuff [Re: Anonymous #5]
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I thought they gave you polygraph tests?

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Re: military + drug stuff [Re: Anonymous #7]
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Anonymous #5 said:
The military's drug policy is based on a broken policy pursued by the Federal government. If you're enlisted, you shouldn't use drugs while on duty. However, simply for dabbling in your youth is no reason to blackball folks.

Those benefits are earned, not just given.


This is my feeling as well.  I don't foresee having a problem not using dr00gz.
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Anonymous #7 said:
I thought they gave you polygraph tests?


Only for security clearances is my understanding.

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Re: military + drug stuff [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anon #1, I was debating pursuing a career in the military as an Officer but my shitty hump back is probably going to exclude me from it - all but certain pending official diagnosis. However, my room mate was Active Duty Army for 4 years during the Iraq Invasion and he's told me horror stories about people getting caught smoking while enlisted. Piss tests are common and often and if they don't get you immediately booted, pissing hot will cost you a lot in terms of rank and salary. He knew a guy that kept getting busted down to E-1 for pissing hot and having to work 6 am - 11 pm with extra duties.

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Re: military + drug stuff [Re: Anonymous #3]
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Anonymous #3 said:
I imagine they do background checks, as in criminal & financial. Maybe to even go as far as looking up old social networking sites but what else could they do? Interview kids in high school you may have smoked joints with? Perhaps it depends on the branch but I know plenty of kids with colorful pasts that are actively enlisted.

But why would you want to join in the first place? I'll pass.


agreed, if you like the smokers lifestyle, don't join. I myself, am in the Army (11 years) and it sucks sweaty balls.
The Army recently needed to beef up it's body-count for Iraq and Afghanistan, meaning they would take anyone with a heart-beat a few years ago, and now that we're trying to wind things up and get out of these shit holes, and now that the Army has broken me, caused me to be clinically depressed and now that I've drank EVERY day for the past 2 years, now the Army is trying to thin the herd.

A couple years ago, you couldn't get kicked out for weed if you wanted to, now there is ZERO tolerance.  "Thanks fatass for taking a few blasts from IED's, and now that you have PTSD, drink like a son-of-a-bitch, are clinically depressed and have a degenerative foot ailment, we don't need you anymore!"

So I risk taking mushrooms to help with my depression, but boy wouldn't they love to chapter me out for drugs rather than pay me for the rest of my life for what they've turned me into?

FTA

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Re: military + drug stuff [Re: Anonymous #7]
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Anonymous #7 said:
I thought they gave you polygraph tests?


Only for higher level security clearances.  If you need a Confidential or Secret Clearance then you don't get polygraphed.

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Re: military + drug stuff [Re: Anonymous #4]
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I hear many stories similar to Anon8. A close friend is active in the air force. They fucked him so hard. He used to have such spirit but now all he does is drink and count the days until he can walk away. Rough commitment.

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Re: military + drug stuff [Re: Anonymous #3]
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my brother in law purposely failed a drug test because he din't agree with the iraq invasion so he did that to get kicked out.  Had to do a month in army jail.

and yeah another inlaw had been in the marines for about 5 years and he got his pinkslip last week, they definately are cutting back on people.

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Anonymous #6 said:
i don't know if i could live with myself for being dishonest with the armed services.  Knowing that I lied to them after all they did for me, and that they deserved to have someone better than me as a recruit.


sheeee-it..


1. The recruiters lie to young men and women, and they start grooming them while they are still kids in high school.

2. Then, after they lie to you, they urge you to lie to the MEPS (Military Entrance Processing Station). My recruiter told me: "Remember, when you get to the MEPS, every answer is NO. Because if you say YES, it stands for Your Enlistment Stops."

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Re: military + drug stuff [Re: Anonymous #8]
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basically your just going to have to talk to your recruiter and be straight up. They don't want no bullshit. ZERO bullshit tolerance is more the motto. If you are dirty and have done some shit that is publicly known say goodbye. If your just a regular tom that has popped a few vicodin and smoked a joint cool out admit to smoking pot a few times and your in if you piss clean. As others have said only federal security clearance jobs require the polygraph test which really is the ultimate truth or dare.

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