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Re: my freind wont stop smoking ice (meth) [Re: Locky]
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i love both, i'm just sayin, meth doesn't make you feel like you've pissed your pants repeatedly. exhibit a) being fear and loathing in las vegas. i dunno. maybe i have a biased view. i really do think that psychedelics are far more weird then meth is.


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Re: my freind wont stop smoking ice (meth) [Re: Dosile Kouki]
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maybe but i live in a area where meth is rampant it makes people like complete weirdos...it seriously contributes to a lot of crime n shit.


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Re: my freind wont stop smoking ice (meth) [Re: countchocula420]
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Only he can quit. You can help him quit but you can't make him. A former acquaintance of mine got addicted to meth and ended up chopping his friend up with a machete (the dude lived somehow). Got out of jail after only a few years because he pleaded insanity. I think the real insane people are the ones running the legal system...

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Re: my freind wont stop smoking ice (meth) [Re: user1837483975]
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No one could of stopped me using heroin, my friends did an intervention, called my parents, my probation officer. I just laughed and sat in jail on a petition to revoke, got out and shot more heroin. I didn't stop until I was ready too. My life didn't become completely unmanageable, but after seeing a few friends die and looking at life sentences I tapered down, manned up, sobered up and am now currently fixing the wreckage of the past.
The best thing you can do for a friend is just to be there for them and don't try and force soberiety of any kind down their neck, because you just may lose that friend. I know when people said something to me, I gave them empty promises and when they kept forcing their beliefs down on me I eventually lost contact with them, and it isn't until now that I was able to see their valid concerns with a clear mind.
I heard meth is far more addictive though, so I don't know if it's much different, but addiction is addiction I suppose.


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I honor the place in you in which the entire universe dwells. I honor the place in you which is of love. of truth. of light, and of peace. When you are in that place in you and I am in that place in me. We are one.

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Re: my freind wont stop smoking ice (meth) [Re: HappyTrippin]
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happy  birthday nigga


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Re: my freind wont stop smoking ice (meth) [Re: Dosile Kouki]
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I said 'dude on a forum says meth isn't physically addicting' to my major druggie friend, he was like 'ya right'.

I think diploid is full of shit. I think maybe meth is actually one of the drugs that can hurt you, alot.

It would be neat if meth was safe city, but from everything I see bsides your anecdote, it seems less then steller.


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All the other kids with the pumped up kicks
You'd better run, better run, outrun my gun

take drugs seriously
say no to :guns:
dealing isn't a game guns shouldn't be a part--- PSA

also, the forum index symbole is the above the influence symbol. what up with that?

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Re: my freind wont stop smoking ice (meth) [Re: Notwoodyallen]
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I think diploid is full of shit

Have you not read anything I've written?

This comes from DOCTORS not from Diploid. The Physician's Desk Reference 2010 Edition, to be specific. You can go read it for yourself at the library, and I quoted the entry for meth verbatim twice in this thread. But you still refuse to accept it.

Your druggie friends are conflating the effects of post-meth acute neurological damage with physical withdrawal. They are not the same thing.

Go ahead and keep taking advice from your druggie friends and the DARE web site over doctors. I'm done trying to educate you. I should know better than to engage someone with your abysmal ratings and expect a rational discussion.


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: my freind wont stop smoking ice (meth) [Re: Diploid]
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Ratings mean everything.I take dare site advice
I ignore doctors
right



like I said, what you posted listed the effects of suddenlt stopping. Most things that give you a flood of dopamine have withdrawls just from that anyway.

Like I said before, shrooms were THE best feeling I've ever had, you don't see me fienden, craving, needing them. If shrooms or weed started hollowing my face and making my teeth fall out(it does happen, like I said, my gramma worked at a drug rehab place, my dad's friends, some of mine, I've seen shit)I'd be like, fuck this life affirming wonder shit. Maybe it isn't as bad as they say, it is bad though when you can't control it. Maybe if you like, snorted it it would spare your teeth. I dunno, do what you want
effects of abrupt cestation=withdrawl

The good times are killin me


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All the other kids with the pumped up kicks
You'd better run, better run, outrun my gun

take drugs seriously
say no to :guns:
dealing isn't a game guns shouldn't be a part--- PSA

also, the forum index symbole is the above the influence symbol. what up with that?

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Re: my freind wont stop smoking ice (meth) [Re: Notwoodyallen]
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I find methamphetamine "withdrawal" laughable.


"I slept for like 4-5 days and wanted to get high". If only my opiate withdrawals was just sleeping.

There are some physical changes your body has to compensate for coming off methamphetamine, but it's not enough to be categorized as physical dependency.

Then again the physical part is by far the easiest to get over with any drug. SO easy.


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Re: my freind wont stop smoking ice (meth) [Re: withoutawire]
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I don't even get this 'psychological dependence' rally

I like choclate, oh no I'm gonna eat myself into fatblivion! Maybe I am wrong, because people are fools. I dunno why it's so tyough to think fools could do that to themselves.


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All the other kids with the pumped up kicks
You'd better run, better run, outrun my gun

take drugs seriously
say no to :guns:
dealing isn't a game guns shouldn't be a part--- PSA

also, the forum index symbole is the above the influence symbol. what up with that?

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Re: my freind wont stop smoking ice (meth) [Re: Notwoodyallen]
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Notwoodyallen said:
I don't even get this 'psychological dependence' rally

I like choclate, oh no I'm gonna eat myself into fatblivion! Maybe I am wrong, because people are fools. I dunno why it's so tyough to think fools could do that to themselves.


:scumbagsteve:

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Re: my freind wont stop smoking ice (meth) [Re: Notwoodyallen]
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Notwoodyallen said:
I don't even get this 'psychological dependence' rally

I like choclate, oh no I'm gonna eat myself into fatblivion! Maybe I am wrong, because people are fools. I dunno why it's so tyough to think fools could do that to themselves.


Chocolate does not work the same way as drugs :kingtard:

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Re: my freind wont stop smoking ice (meth) [Re: Notwoodyallen]
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Notwoodyallen said:
I don't even get this 'psychological dependence' rally

I like choclate, oh no I'm gonna eat myself into fatblivion! Maybe I am wrong, because people are fools. I dunno why it's so tyough to think fools could do that to themselves.




Because you are being ignorant scum bag steve and ignoring the scientific facts. You don't get it because your a snitch non-drug addict. You don't want to "get it", but just accept it as science, because that's what logical-intelligent-adults do.



:scumbagsteve:x 100




PS-chocolates travel through the reward pathway is almost exact to cocaine. It's very mild, and doesn't have properties of cocaine, but that dopamine flush is real.


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Re: my freind wont stop smoking ice (meth) [Re: withoutawire]
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I'm addicted to chocolate.

:dizope:

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Re: my freind wont stop smoking ice (meth) [Re: withoutawire]
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Without a wire, go fuck yourself
I never did snitch even though I SHOULD, my sig kinda expplains why I wanted to. If you pulled a gun on me you'd be getting hauled off.


I'm not addicted because I make it a point not to do things to excess that could, you know, make me into tweaker dude TV thief.


And you morons. You say 'dur, no physical dependancy'
Then I mention chocolate and you are like 'it's not the same'
Well, if it's psychological, it is, because anything else is physical.


Fucking fools. Ignoring scientific facts. I'm ignoring what you say to me because it sounds stupid, you arn't scientists, and the scientific thing brought up SUPPORTED what I said, but people can't fucking read.


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All the other kids with the pumped up kicks
You'd better run, better run, outrun my gun

take drugs seriously
say no to :guns:
dealing isn't a game guns shouldn't be a part--- PSA

also, the forum index symbole is the above the influence symbol. what up with that?

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Re: my freind wont stop smoking ice (meth) [Re: Notwoodyallen]
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Do you want a tissue to cry into?

Addiction is facts and science. You don't have to be a scientist to be able to accurately communicate facts. I know it's something you have a really hard time with, but if you attempt to grasp your mind around it...


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Re: my freind wont stop smoking ice (meth) [Re: withoutawire]
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withoutawire said:
Do you want a tissue to cry into?

Addiction is facts and science. You don't have to be a scientist to be able to accurately communicate facts. I know it's something you have a really hard time with, but if you attempt to grasp your mind around it...


You're acting like I'm not getting some science. You are throwing words around when you are too dumb to get the argument I just outlined.

I'm not ignoting scientific anything, just someone saying something. What diploid or you say isn't proof to me. It's like how everyone is like 'take 'trip', come on, smoke it'
Just because some fools I know think it's ok doesn't mean I'll just believe or do anything.

abrupt cestation=withdrawls
mushrooms=great, where is the 'psychological' addiction, NOT physical. I just don't think you guys get the differance. If something is psychological it has to do with thoughts, not what is happening to your brain. That would be physical


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All the other kids with the pumped up kicks
You'd better run, better run, outrun my gun

take drugs seriously
say no to :guns:
dealing isn't a game guns shouldn't be a part--- PSA

also, the forum index symbole is the above the influence symbol. what up with that?

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Re: my freind wont stop smoking ice (meth) [Re: Notwoodyallen]
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No trust me, i get it. I really do. And you clearly don't understand much of what's being said. once you become a drug addict you are susceptible to that forever.


Oh, so instead of reading the link diplioid posted and researching and understanding the evidence, you are going to argue with me over the internet.

Come on BRO

:scumbagsteve:


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Re: my freind wont stop smoking ice (meth) [Re: withoutawire] * 1
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i'll take u both on.

come at me bros.

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Re: my freind wont stop smoking ice (meth) [Re: withoutawire]
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because once you become a drug addict you are susceptible to that forever.


That sounds lke propaganda BS. I mean, maybe you'll crave like, the drug you liked, and statistically it's probably true, but that generalization takes controll away from addicts. Like alot of the mindset today toward addiction is childish. You think I don't get it, and maybe i've never been addicted, but I've seen it alot.


Withdrawal symptoms of methamphetamine primarily consist of fatigue, depression and an increased appetite. Symptoms may last for days with occasional use and weeks or months with chronic use, with severity dependent on the length of time and the amount of methamphetamine used. Withdrawal symptoms may also include anxiety, irritability, headaches, agitation, akathisia, hypersomnia (excessive sleeping), vivid or lucid dreams, deep REM sleep and suicidal ideation.[20]

Wiki


where he linked me to


I think you people just want meth to have no physical side effects from quitting. If, considering that it has such bad effects when you use it quitting would be easy as hell, you know, once you become a grey ass half zombie


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All the other kids with the pumped up kicks
You'd better run, better run, outrun my gun

take drugs seriously
say no to :guns:
dealing isn't a game guns shouldn't be a part--- PSA

also, the forum index symbole is the above the influence symbol. what up with that?

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