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did i go overboard?
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I think i got carried away by this douche and went overboard arguing...
heres the play by play...

osama killed around 3000 civillians on 9/11. we've killed over a millon civillians with our "war on terror" I forget who's the terrorists again? dont support the war just because its "cool" to support the troops support the people you love because you love them. I dont support genocide and especially not because its cool.

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McDoucherstein Don't be a fag.
Girl i know Whoa nelly sir he is not bashing on troop here he is just stating his opinion which just so happens to be that we don't need our troops overseas anymore.
Me um how about you stop supporting the murder of innocent people just because they arent americans. we have nothing to gain from this war aside from resources. its not ok for over a million people to be dead because of a decision our government made.
A real American value is protecting the weak which is i thought why we have respect for our servicemen and women. not joining the military so you can pretend youre better than everyone.
Him He's equating a military deployment with genocide. That opinion, as you call it, is disgusting. Those Iraqi deaths are mostly due to bombings and infighting between Iraqis that would happen regardless. Not soldiers with bloodlust. Another thing that boils my blood is stating that people support the war because it's "cool." That's insulting and childish. People support the war because they recognize that it's a good cause.
Me i am equating the war in the middle east as genocide, not deployment. i am saying to support your friends by getting them the fuck out of there. and saying that it is mostly infighting is bullshit. we may not have shot every innocent person killed but the majority of those deaths would still not have happened if we were not there and to say otherwise is just stupid and regurgitating what our government wants us to think. and people do support the war because its cool. i have never met a single person who supports the war that knew how many civillian casualties there have been and most thought it was maybe a couple thousand in freak accidents. why do people support things that they dont know anything about other than from our biased media and government? because its "cool" now. and it isnt an accident the government wants us to think supporting the military is patriotic. well i call bullshit being a patriotic american means standing up shit when its wrong not just following blindly behind the support the troops banner. you know as an american citizen not enlisted in the military I have a higher chance of being murdered than you do so really it is the people not enlisting risking their lives for our country. How in the fuck is it a good cause?
Me im really curious on how you think its a good cause actually. theres nothing wrong with disagreeing with someone if you are going to give your opinion and actually support it with an argument like an adult. i could give my opinion of you too but it has nothing to do with any argument i could make.
Him There's been 150,000 CIVILIAN casualties at most. That's ridiculous if you consider past wars. In WWII, it was anywhere from 37-55 million. In Vietnam, a mid-level estimate puts it at around 850,000. Considering that this war has been one of the longest in US history, that's pretty damn good. It's not genocide. That's pure, bleeding-heart ignorance. You want to hear about a real genocide? Look up the numbers on abortion.
Me and that is a 100% lie that is what our government claims and the media circulates most reputable sources puts it at at least one million. ill admit that i did put the higher end estimate but that is also the one with the most research behind it from my understanding. the low end estimate of just iraq is 800,000.
Me the lowest credible esimate for iraq and afghanistan is around 900,000, refering to my last sentence. i put just iraq mistakenly.
him If you aren't going to believe any figures given to you by anyone, than it's worthless to even have a discussion.
Me. thats a bit hypocritical. i know where your information came from and why it is wrong. you did not even read the link i provided. you are giving the IBC which is how many theyve counted. well thats all well and good exept for the fact that they dont report the majority of the deaths; my information is based on the only period that someone tried to keep track. all youve done from the start is twist my words to say things that arent true then say im wrong because the mangled version of what i said is false. then you give false information and wont look into any of the figures ive provided. and claim its a good cause but cant give a single reason why. im actually disappointed i thought an argument with you would be a bit more interesting but you failed to provide a single valid counterpoint. and there is a legitimate argument against what i'm saying but you failed to present it. this discussion is pointless and its because you obviosly have no clue what youre talking about. maybe before you tell someone else they wont look into data you provided, which i did, you should look into theirs.
so youve commented on my link four times and have not read it and youre going to call me out on not believing figures... my statement in the first place is about why the IBC figures are wrong which if you read the link you would know. and you would also know the flaw in my figures. so hmmm go fuck yourself faggot. I win. its no fun once i give you the information to argue with, and next time you try to insult someone on their make sure theyre really stupid. im done with this shit dont bother commenting again.
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Re: did i go overboard? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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ter·ror·ism

noun

1.the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.
2.the state of fearand submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
3.a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.

Only read the first litle bit but Ill add this.

Id say we've met the definition.

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Re: did i go overboard? [Re: Anonymous #2]
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most definately meets the definition of terrorism.  nice addition.

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Re: did i go overboard? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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+1 dude.

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Re: did i go overboard? [Re: Anonymous #3]
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Your heart seems in the right place but you might have overdone it a bit yes...

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Re: did i go overboard? [Re: Anonymous #4]
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If you are on a debate or you try to impress someone you did ok but if you want to change somebodies mind you might wanna be more strategic..

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