ButteredToast said:

Tchan909 said:

Everybody has a hard time with depression and anxiety, they're states of misery with which most of us are acquainted.

Some people get seriously stuck though. I was surprised by the last couple episodes of South Park because they seem to give an unusually sympathetic picture of major depression. Everything is bullshit, you can't care about anything, people watch you going through life like a zombie, your friends try to help you but they're unable to sympathize, there's no end in sight and no fucking way out that isn't pharmacological.

I don't speak from experience with major depression, but having experience with depression and anxiety is a different thing than having Major Depression. People die from Major Depression.

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The cure is to find the cause.

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Shroomism said:

Yes, they fuck with your brain chemistry and turn you into a walking zombie.

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AbstraKt_I_Am said:

When I was 11-14 my school required me to take an SSRI to attend because I was deemed emotionally unfit.

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Wow that is fucked. If the teacher that said that was fat, id say youd have to start a diet to come back to school because you are physically unfit.

'Emotionally unfit' . What a crock of shit. I thought they were there to teach you, not mold you into what they deem 'normal'. Oh wait our school system is ancient and horrible. When I was in school half the kids were on adderall, and the other half were on paxil. Disgusting if you ask me.

Tchan909 said:

Anthony said:

And you're surprised?

I hate it how people think that all their ailments can be cured by a single pill.

Oh just take this pill and you'll lose weight, you'll gain a shitload of muscle, you won't be depressed anymore...we have a solution to every problem encapsulated and sold, when the REAL solution to your shitty problems is all in your brain. It's all under your control.

Fuck anti-depressants

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Dude, every post I see coming from you is totally negative. You have zero empathy and seem primarily concerned with feeding your ego with the shortcomings and misery of others.

You are not the shit. You do not have all the answers. You do not know what other people are going through. You're not qualified enough even to comment on things like this, but you're still going to act like the stream of useless insensitive garbage you just dumped on us is meaningful or important somehow, because you need it so badly to contrast with your own meaningless life.

Sorry if I just came across as a dick, but I felt somebody had to say it...

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Disagree. His posts have been better lately if anything.

LoveYourLife said:

I take SSRI's and I can say that I don't feel in any way like what you described.

Sometimes I feel like they don't really do anything, but I think that's just because I expected them to make me magically happy rather than knowing it just stabilizes my mood.

Either way it helped remove a lot of my pessimism towards life and make me feel more normal.

Also haven't experienced any side-effects as of yet, which is odd

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shr said:

imo, there needs to be more research done on these drugs.

nobody under 18 should be taking them, that is just fucked up. growing up is suppose to an emotional process

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Patlal said:

So I've been taking that shit for a few years now, I guess it made things better.

I watched a TED video and the women was saying that the increase in serotonin in the brain takes up the available space and limits dopamine in the brain. Then she started talking about the consequences of that.

Two of these consequences got me seriously thinking. The lack of dopamine creates apathy and anhedonia.

Apathy: a state of indifference, or the suppression of emotions such as concern, excitement, motivation and passion. An apathetic individual has an absence of interest in or concern about emotional, social, spiritual, philosophical or physical life.

Anhedonia: defined as the inability to experience pleasure from activities usually found enjoyable, e.g. hobbies, exercise, social interaction or sexual activity.

So that pretty much describes why I don't give a shit and why I don't like to do the things I used to love...

Any thought on this? Can anyone else relate to this?

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In a controversial meta-analysis published in 1998, Irving Kirsch and Guy Sapirstein compared the mean effect size changes in symptoms of depression across 19 double-blind studies assessing the efficacy of antidepressant medications. Results demonstrated that placebos reproduced approximately 75% of the improvement found in the active drug. Furthermore, the authors assert that the remaining 25% of improvement accounted for by the active drug is debatable, and could be the result of an enhanced placebo response due to the side effects that patients experience when taking the active drugs, or other nonspecific factors

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In its study, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention looked at 2.4 billion drugs prescribed in visits to doctors and hospitals in 2005. Of those, 118 million were for antidepressants.

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Pharmaceutical sector, total global profit in 2003  $400,000,000,000
One of the most profitable multi-international business's in the world.

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Problem?

reeferaddict69 said:

LoveYourLife said:

I take SSRI's and I can say that I don't feel in any way like what you described.

Sometimes I feel like they don't really do anything, but I think that's just because I expected them to make me magically happy rather than knowing it just stabilizes my mood.

Either way it helped remove a lot of my pessimism towards life and make me feel more normal.

Also haven't experienced any side-effects as of yet, which is odd

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You don't have any sexual side effects?

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