Patlal said:

So I've been taking that shit for a few years now, I guess it made things better.

I watched a TED video and the women was saying that the increase in serotonin in the brain takes up the available space and limits dopamine in the brain. Then she started talking about the consequences of that.

Two of these consequences got me seriously thinking. The lack of dopamine creates apathy and anhedonia.

Apathy: a state of indifference, or the suppression of emotions such as concern, excitement, motivation and passion. An apathetic individual has an absence of interest in or concern about emotional, social, spiritual, philosophical or physical life.

Anhedonia: defined as the inability to experience pleasure from activities usually found enjoyable, e.g. hobbies, exercise, social interaction or sexual activity.

So that pretty much describes why I don't give a shit and why I don't like to do the things I used to love...

Any thought on this? Can anyone else relate to this?

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Anthony said:

And you're surprised?

I hate it how people think that all their ailments can be cured by a single pill.

Oh just take this pill and you'll lose weight, you'll gain a shitload of muscle, you won't be depressed anymore...we have a solution to every problem encapsulated and sold, when the REAL solution to your shitty problems is all in your brain. It's all under your control.

Fuck anti-depressants

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Dude, every post I see coming from you is totally negative. You have zero empathy and seem primarily concerned with feeding your ego with the shortcomings and misery of others.

You are not the shit. You do not have all the answers. You do not know what other people are going through. You're not qualified enough even to comment on things like this, but you're still going to act like the stream of useless insensitive garbage you just dumped on us is meaningful or important somehow, because you need it so badly to contrast with your own meaningless life.

Sorry if I just came across as a dick, but I felt somebody had to say it...

Tchan909 said:

Anthony said:

And you're surprised?

I hate it how people think that all their ailments can be cured by a single pill.

Oh just take this pill and you'll lose weight, you'll gain a shitload of muscle, you won't be depressed anymore...we have a solution to every problem encapsulated and sold, when the REAL solution to your shitty problems is all in your brain. It's all under your control.

Fuck anti-depressants

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Dude, every post I see coming from you is totally negative. You have zero empathy and seem primarily concerned with feeding your ego with the shortcomings and misery of others.

You are not the shit. You do not have all the answers. You do not know what other people are going through. You're not qualified enough even to comment on things like this, but you're still going to act like the stream of useless insensitive garbage you just dumped on us is meaningful or important somehow, because you need it so badly to contrast with your own meaningless life.

Sorry if I just came across as a dick, but I felt somebody had to say it...

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Tchan909 said:

Anthony said:

And you're surprised?

I hate it how people think that all their ailments can be cured by a single pill.

Oh just take this pill and you'll lose weight, you'll gain a shitload of muscle, you won't be depressed anymore...we have a solution to every problem encapsulated and sold, when the REAL solution to your shitty problems is all in your brain. It's all under your control.

Fuck anti-depressants

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Dude, every post I see coming from you is totally negative. You have zero empathy and seem primarily concerned with feeding your ego with the shortcomings and misery of others.

You are not the shit. You do not have all the answers. You do not know what other people are going through. You're not qualified enough even to comment on things like this, but you're still going to act like the stream of useless insensitive garbage you just dumped on us is meaningful or important somehow.

Sorry if I just came across as a dick, but I felt somebody had to say it...

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I think you're feeling attacked when the reality is I'm not searching to feed any ego. lol I'm just giving my opinion, and your interpretation of what I'm saying is YOUR own interpretation.

I don't have any answers, I never claimed to be the shit, and tbh you're right, I don't care what other people are going through. I'm not going to feel sorry for you because you're depressed.

I'm not qualified enough to say that I watched my brother go on and off anti-depressants for a few years and all they did was make things a hell of a lot worse for him. It wasn't until he stopped taking them that he seemed to feel better

So, why don't you blow me cause honestly you DO sound like a dick and it's unwarranted.

I've been in the depths of depression, I've seriously considered suicide. Relax bro

ToiletDuk said:

It sure beats the alternative of crushing major depression, believe me.

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Anthony said:

ToiletDuk said:

It sure beats the alternative of crushing major depression, believe me.

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don't you see how this is flawed? you are submitting to the depression, you are letting it control you. Even when you take anti depressants and feel OK you are still letting depression rule you.

You're looking at saying "Ok either I'm depressed or I take this pill"...loading your brain with chemicals.

when does the point come when you stop taking them?

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Tchan909 said:

Everybody has a hard time with depression and anxiety, they're states of misery with which most of us are acquainted.

Some people get seriously stuck though. I was surprised by the last couple episodes of South Park because they seem to give an unusually sympathetic picture of major depression. Everything is bullshit, you can't care about anything, people watch you going through life like a zombie, your friends try to help you but they're unable to sympathize, there's no end in sight and no fucking way out that isn't pharmacological.

I don't speak from experience with major depression, but having experience with depression and anxiety is a different thing than having Major Depression. People die from Major Depression.

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Shroomism said:

Yes, they fuck with your brain chemistry and turn you into a walking zombie.

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Shroomism said:

I am only speaking from my own personal experience of being chronically and very severely depressed for many years.
I thought about killing myself about 10 times a day.
They put me on paxil, zoloft, flexiril, depakote, and various other things. You name it, I've probably tried it.

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I will give that SOME people MAY benefit from moderate use of SSRIs.
But they are EXTREMELY over-prescribed and used as a band-aid to mask the symptoms rather than fix the actual problem.

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Tchan909 said:

Everybody has a hard time with depression and anxiety, they're states of misery with which most of us are acquainted.

Some people get seriously stuck though. I was surprised by the last couple episodes of South Park because they seem to give an unusually sympathetic picture of major depression. Everything is bullshit, you can't care about anything, people watch you going through life like a zombie, your friends try to help you but they're unable to sympathize, there's no end in sight and no fucking way out that isn't pharmacological.

I don't speak from experience with major depression, but having experience with depression and anxiety is a different thing than having Major Depression. People die from Major Depression.

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