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The Fourth Density/Ascension
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For those in the know, the mystery behind 2012 has already been demystified (at least, to some degree). We are currently undergoing the process of Ascension as consciousness is rapidly accelerating towards the 4th Density.

What changes do you think will come along with our shift into 4th Density? The Law of One material refers to the 4D as the Density of Love (as this density, 3rd Density, is where all souls must learn their life lessons and ultimately learn love/light in order to graduate to the next density)

We will be experiencing a 3-way split then; those who have lived in Service To Others will graduate to Fourth Density Positive, those of Service To Self shall go to Fourth Density Negative, and still those who are lukewarm (i.e. do not lean towards either extreme) will simply have to repeat their time in this Third Density over again; however reincarnation into this Density shall not be possible for quite some of our Earth time.

My ascertainment of this knowledge, though extremely life-changing, has me stricken with far more questions than answers (but of course, matters concerning the nature of reality and metaphysics would do that :lol:). I understand that our consciousness will be shifting... but what exactly will coincide with this phenomenon? Our physical bodies probably will not make the shift as this is a deeper matter. However, will we retain our memories? Supposedly those who are meant to repeat their lessons in the Third Density will experience something like a global feeling of Oneness but will not witness any tangible shift or change.

I am curious as to what will occur to those who will be graduating to either of the Fourth Densities. Will it be exactly as when we incarnate into this world and a veil is put up, making us forget the memories of our past lives and ultimately forgetting the knowledge of our True, Divine nature? Or will we retain our memories as we make the shift?

The mystery inspires me...

Edited by sunset_mission (04/04/11 10:06 AM)

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Re: The Fourth Density/Ascension [Re: sunset_mission]
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For those of us who are not "in the know" could you post some links to information that can make us "in the know"?

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Re: The Fourth Density/Ascension [Re: Aser]
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what makes you believe in this? i like this sorta new age views, but i find it really hard to believe since we do live in a rational state of mind. have you experience this yourself?? can you give examples. am very interested too in this mystery. ty

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Re: The Fourth Density/Ascension [Re: Aser]
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http://www.lawofone.info/

The Law of One/Ra Material is a series of works channeled between 1981-1984 by Carla Ruckert and others, in which they came into contact with and communicated extensively with a being (supposedly of the 6th Density) named Ra. There is ALOT of information there regarding the true nature of reality, the history of our Earth, and many other things. However it is very difficult to digest, and even harder to comprehend unless one does extensive reading on it... I found it over a year ago and my life has never been the same since, and every day I attempt to further understand it.

It is only now that I am now coming to terms with it all.

Here's a much easier, simpler site that details the 'bare essentials' of the Law of One.

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Law of One:

You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One. (B1, 67) The Law of One, although beyond all words, may be approximated by saying that all things are one, there is no polarity, no right or wrong, no disharmony, but only one identity. All is one; and that one is love/light, light/love, the Infinite Creator. (B1, 85)

THE LAW OF ONE SAYS THAT ALL THINGS ARE ONE CREATOR. THUS SEEKING THE CREATOR IS DONE NOT JUST IN MEDITATION AND IN THE WORK OF THE ADEPT, BUT IN THE EXPERIENCE OF EVERY MOMENT. (B3, 49) IN EACH INFINITESIMAL PART OF YOURSELF RESIDES THE ONE IN ALL OF ITS POWER. (B1, 146)

Briefly, the Law of One was learned by channeling information from an existence names Ra. Here are a few exerpts from the book:

WHO IS RA?

RA: We are those who are of the Law of One, of Unity. In our vibration the polarities are harmonized; the paradoxes have a solution. We are one. We have walked your planet and seen the faces of your peoples. We now feel a great responsibility of helping remove certain distortions that have been given to the law of One. (B1, 65) We, as social memory complex or group soul, made contact with a race on your planet which you call Egyptians. We spoke to one who heard and understood, and was in a position to decree the law of One. (Based on the Edgar Cayce Readings, we can see that this was the entity Ra-Ta, who helped Ra design the Great Pyramid with Hermes and much later reincarnated as Cayce himself). However the priests and the peoples of that era quickly distorted our message, robbing it of the compassion with which unity is informed. (B1, 66) We came and were welcomed by the peoples we wished to serve. We attempted to aid them in technical ways having to do with healing of mind/body/spirit complex through the use of the crystal. Thus were the pyramids created. However, it turned out that those in power reserved this technology for themselves. This was not intended by the law of the One. We left your peoples. However we have never left your vibration due to our responsibility for the changes in consciousness we had first caused and then found distorted in ways not relegated to the Law Of One. The densities or cycles we have traversed are: 1. 1ST DENSITY: The cycle of awareness 2. 2ND DENSITY: Growth 3. 3RD DENSITY: Self-awareness 4. 4TH DENSITY: Love or understanding 5. 5TH DENSITY: Light or wisdom RA: We spent much time/space in 5th density balancing the intense compassion we had gained in 4th density, (B2, 93) 6. 6TH DENSITY: Light/love, love/light or unity (also frequently referred to as compassionate wisdom) 7. 7TH DENSITY: The gateway cycle (also frequently referred to as that density where one perceives the sacramental nature of all things) RA: At the 7th level or dimension, we shall. if our humble efforts are sufficient, become one with all, thus having no memory, no identity, no past or future, but existing in the all. (B1,153) 8TH DENSITY: The octave which moves into a mystery we do not plumb. (B1, 153)

QUESTION: Does this mean that in the 8th density you would have awareness of all that is?
RA: This is partially correct. It is our understanding that it would not be our awareness, but the awareness of the Creator. In the Creator is all there is.

QUESTION: WHO ARE THE WANDERERS?
RA: Imagine, if you will, the sands of your shores. As countless as the grains of sand are the sources of intelligent infinity. When a social memory complex has achieved a complete understanding of its desire, it may conclude that its desire is to serve any entities who call for aid. These entities whom you may call the Brothers aid Sisters of Sorrow move toward this calling of sorrow. They come from all reaches of the infinite creation. They are not sorrowful themselves, but come to aid those that are in sorrow. They are the Wanderers. There are approximately 65 million on Earth, (B1, 127)

QUESTION: What is the Higher Self?
RA: The Higher Self as you call it, is the self which exists with full understanding of the accumulation of experiences which have not been learned properly. It aids the entity in achieving healing, and assists in programming further life experiences. (B2, 62)

QUESTION: Can you tell me the first known thing in creation?
RA: The first known thing in creation is infinity. (B1, 129)

QUESTION: What is the next step?
RA: Infinity became aware.

QUESTION: The 1st distortion of intelligent infinity is free will. Can you give a definition of this distortion?
RA: In this distortion of the Law of One it is recognized that the Creator will know Itself (or experience Itself). (B2, 7) The primal distortion is free will. (B2, 8)

The 1st distortion, free will, finds a focus which is known to you as logos, the Creative Principle or love. This focus may be called the 2nd distortion. (B1, 148)

The second distortion is the distortion of love. (B2, 7-8)

The distortion love is the great activator and primal co-Creator of various creations using intelligent infinity. (B2, 8)... Love uses Its intelligent energy to create a certain pattern of illusions or densities in order to satisfy Its own intelligent estimate of a method of knowing itself. (B2, 9)

This intelligent energy thus creates a distortion known as Light. From these 3 distortions come many, many hierarchies of distortions each having its own paradoxes to be synthesized, no one being any more important than another. (B1, 148)

The origin of all energy is the action of free will upon love. The nature of all energy is light, including the inner light which is the guiding star of the self. This is the true nature of all entities. (B3, 30) THE INNER LIGHT IS YOUR HEART OF BEING. ITS STRENGTH EQUALS YOUR STRENGTH OF WILL TO SEEK THE LIGHT. (B3, 46) A certain amount of awareness of the inner light is necessary to attract the in-streaming light upward spiraling from the south magnetic pole of being (the root chakra), (B3, 46)

Question: WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE 3RD DENSITY?
RA: The purpose of incarnation in 3rd density is to learn the ways of love. (B4, 67)

Question: HOW LONG DOES 3RD DENSITY LAST?
RA: The 3rd density is a choice. The prelude to choice must encompass the laying of the foundation, the establishment of the illusion and the viability of that which can be made spiritually viable. The remainder of the densities is continuous refining of the choice. The choice is, as you put it, the work of a moment but is the axis upon which the creation turns. (B4, 13-14)

Question: WHAT DETERMINES WHETHER YOU GRADUATE INTO 4TH DENSITY? RA: The necessity for graduation to 4th density is an ability to use, welcome and enjoy a certain intensity of the white light of the One Infinite Creator. (B4, 71) It's a function of the intensity of the violet ray of the individual. (B2, 103)

4th density is not of words, unless chosen. One is aware of the thoughts and vibrations of otherselves. It is a plane of compassion and understanding of the sorrows of 3rd density. It is a plane striving towards wisdom or light. There is no disharmony within the self or within other peoples. It is not within the limits of possibility to cause disharmony in any way. (B1, 157) When sickness is present, it is easily healed. (B1, 157)

Question: IS AN ENTITY IN THE 4TH DENSITY NORMALLY INVISIBLE TO US?
RA: The 4th density is, by choice, not visible to third density. It is possible for 4th density to be visible. However, the 4th density entity must concentrate upon a rather difficult vibrational pattern or complex - which is the 3rd density you experience. (B1, 126)

RA on black holes: The blackness of the black hole, metaphysically speaking. Is a concentration of white light being systematically absorbed once again into the One Creator. Finally, this absorption into the One Creator continues until all the infinity of creations have attained sufficient spiritual mass in order that all form once again. The great central sun if you would so imagine it, of the intelligent infinity awaiting potentiation by free will- Thus the transition of the octave is a process which may be seen to enter into timelessness of unimaginable nature.

Question: WHAT IS SPIRITUAL MASS?
RA Spiritual mass is that which begins to attract the out-moving and on-going vibratory oscillations of being-ness into the gravity well of the great central sun, core, or Creator of the infinite universes. (B2, 69-70)

OUR DISHARMONY AFFECTS THE EARTH RA: When an entire planetary system of peoples and cultures repeatedly experiences disharmony on a great scale, the earth under the feet of these entities shall begin to resonate with this disharmony. (B3, 68)

EARTH WILL HAVE BECOME A 4TH DENSITY PLANET BY APPROXIMATELY 2011 RA: This sphere… has not made an easy transition to the vibrations which beckon. Therefore, it will be fetched with some inconvenience… This inconvenience, or disharmonious vibratory complex, [i.e. the disharmony of the peoples creating Earth Changes] has begun several of your years in your past. It shall continue unabated for a period of approximately thirty of your years.

QUESTION: In 30 years this will be a 4th density planet. Is this correct? (1981 + 30 = 2011)
RA: This is so. (B1, 93) [This session was held in Jan. 1981.]




If anybody is at all familiar with the "sleeping prophet" Edgar Cayce - the man who, in the 1930's, was able to put himself into deep trances at will and access the Akashic Records/where all knowledge of all existence, all thoughts, etc. is located and embedded in the ether - and was able to accurately diagnose people's illnesses and figured out cures for them which medical science did not know at the time (he utilized many, many different fields of science and mixed them together, though in his normal, waking consciousness/untrance state he knew little to nothing about this) then the concept of "channeling" should be easier for you to understand.

I do not ask you to believe what I have proposed here, and I will not impose this knowledge upon you. I only ask that you approach it with an open mind.

Edited by sunset_mission (04/04/11 10:54 AM)

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Re: The Fourth Density/Ascension [Re: sunset_mission] * 1
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you sound a little too sure of this stuff and its as if you have the unknown too mapped out for your own good

I've got a question. Where did you get these ideas? I can almost bet MONEY that you would not have had these ideas had you not heard them from somewhere else,

probably on the internet



I don't mean to sound like an outright skeptic just because what you're saying sounds new-agey....its not that

it just sounds like somebody was thinking a little too hard when they came up with this stuff

"this is the end...of our elaborate plans, the end"


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Re: The Fourth Density/Ascension [Re: the bizzle]
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Read the extensive post I made above.

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Re: The Fourth Density/Ascension [Re: the bizzle]
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the bizzle said:
you sound a little too sure of this stuff and its as if you have the unknown too mapped out for your own good

I've got a question. Where did you get these ideas? I can almost bet MONEY that you would not have had these ideas had you not heard them from somewhere else,

probably on the internet



I don't mean to sound like an outright skeptic just because what you're saying sounds new-agey....its not that

it just sounds like somebody was thinking a little too hard when they came up with this stuff

"this is the end...of our elaborate plans, the end"



Helllll no. I don't have the unknown mapped out for shit. :lol: My human knowledge is pretty damn inferior and I'm still trying to digest this information. Though certain events in my life have been helping me with this journey.

I see you're already familiar with the 4th Density.

Your thread: "will we still be smoking weed in 4th Density?" :rofldrunk:

This isn't "new-agey". It's from 1981-84 and wasn't written by conventional methods, it was 'channeled' if you are familiar with that phenomenon.

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Re: The Fourth Density/Ascension [Re: the bizzle]
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Quote:
Edgar Cayce



I should have known this was involved when I heard the term "4th density"

i'm not saying anything against him, but YOU can't take something as truth because of HIM

he might be right

but you shouldnt think that YOU are right because you think HE is right

we're all naive in some way



you should trust more in your OWN powers of observance, and be swayed less by heros or idols.

Stuff like this seeps into your brain. You take it too seriously, then it confuses you when you could be making your own brand new discoveries




4th density? or demon realm? you see, depending on what you've been exposed to, outside influences have major influence over how you perceive your own experience








STOP! I'm already dead


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Re: The Fourth Density/Ascension [Re: sunset_mission]
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To better understand "density", I found a thread that Shroomism made 8 years ago:

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Shroomism wrote:

4th Density
Containment of volumetric awareness, superconsciousness, reintegration of group identity without loss of ego identity; as vibration increases, perception of past, present, and future become more fluid along with the ability to interface with multidimensional and multidensity realities, negatively oriented consciousness becomes more difficult to maintain. Presently on Earth, 4th density reality is overlapping third. In humanity's case, this can account for the increased desire for unity, peace and unconditional love as opposed to the illusion of separation that characterizes third density. The vibrationary rate of one's reality is stepped up, and therefore one may be faced with personal issues in a much more rapid and intense way.

3rd is described:
3rd Density
Volumetric awareness, ego, loss of group identity, development of individual identity, ability to remember past and cognize the future while retaining present awareness. This is the density where human beings emerge. It is a vibration that creates the illusion of separation and thus a challenge toward awakening. Presently humanity is going thru a transition period into 4th dnesity reality which can account for the many rapid changes the human race is undergoing. This is the frequency that expresses the most separation from the Whole. It is from here that many lessons about integration are learned. This is the most intense of all levels in its cultivation of growth with the Self. Cetaceans (dolphins and whales) presently exist simultaneously in 3rd and 4th densities and are transiting out of 3rd along with humanity.

Terminology:
Density: Density denotes a vibrational frequency and not a location, which the term "dimension" implies. The density structure of this reality is primarily expressed in seven levels, though each level has sub-levels within it. The density scale is a model used to communicate one's perception of orientation in relation to other realities.

Dimension: Dimension refers to one's location in space/time rather then a person's vibrational frequency (density). Webster defines "dimension" as "Magnitude measured in a particular direction, specifically length, breadth, thickness or time." There are an infinite number of dimensions existing with a given density or vibrational frequency.

Frequency: Matter is vibrating energy. Different vibrationary rates denote the properties. Frequency is the rate at which molecules or consciousness vibrate.



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Re: The Fourth Density/Ascension [Re: the bizzle] * 2
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Blah blah blah, nothing new here.

Seems like another brainwashed new age post. There is no proof, just some guys writing shit up on the internet for the masses to believe in. Where's the part where they ask for your money?

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Re: The Fourth Density/Ascension [Re: sunset_mission]
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Thanks for the info, will read it. and i do approach things with an open mind :smile:. Just curious thats all. curiosity brings about lots of questions to be answered.

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Re: The Fourth Density/Ascension [Re: sunset_mission]
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Quote:
Helllll no. I don't have the unknown mapped out for shit.



I think you misunderstood what I meant. Just remember that when we die we could come to find that this whole "density" thang was just an idea in our little mortal human heads


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Re: The Fourth Density/Ascension [Re: JohnnyZampano]
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Edgar Cayce has nothing to do with this, however I was using him as an example for channeling. I didn't hear about Cayce online... my parents have a book about him called The Sleeping Prophet which I have read cover to cover.

His work is still very prominent to this day as he was able to map out the diagnosis for many diseases DECADES before they hit mainstream science/medicine.

But this thread is not about Edgar Cayce.

JohnnyZampano said:
Blah blah blah, nothing new here.

Seems like another brainwashed new age post. There is no proof, just some guys writing shit up on the internet for the masses to believe in. Where's the part where they ask for your money?



Did you miss the part where it was written in the 80's and channeled? :shrug: You don't need to believe anything in this thread if you don't want to; I'm only presenting this information here for others to approach and those who would actually read it as opposed to dismissing it as "new-age hogwash". Is the notion that everything is part of the Source/all is one really such bullshit? This is merely ancient knowledge explained thoroughly and by a source that, y'know, isn't fraught with incomplete, inferior human knowledge and biases.

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Re: The Fourth Density/Ascension [Re: sunset_mission]
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I can only hope that my presentation of these ideas (I've been debating about making this thread for a whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiile....) will help others out in their path.

A little history: I was a damn hardcore atheist and approached this material with ultra skepticism.

Then I gave it a chance and approached it with the "I know absolutely nothing about the universe" disposition and, hell, all sentient beings should jump at the chance to further their knowledge (especially if it's knowledge about reality!) and this shit is waaaaaaaaaay too extensive to have been 'cooked up' by somebody. I'm 2642895762786x grateful to the Universe for allowing me to come across this data.

Like I said.. it would take a good month to read through everything presented here: http://www.lawofone.info/

and an even longer time to come to terms with it.

Edited by sunset_mission (04/04/11 10:40 AM)

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Re: The Fourth Density/Ascension [Re: sunset_mission]
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sunset_mission said:
Did you miss the part where it was written in the 80's and channeled? :shrug: You don't need to believe anything in this thread if you don't want to; I'm only presenting this information here for others to approach and those who would actually read it as opposed to dismissing it as "new-age hogwash". Is the notion that everything is part of the Source/all is one really such bullshit? This is merely ancient knowledge explained thoroughly and by a source that, y'know, isn't fraught with incomplete, inferior human knowledge and biases.



No the notion that everything is one is not bullshit, its also not new at all. I just can't really understand how people buy into this crap thinking that come 2012 they are going to transcend, or shift, or whatever the fuck they think is going to happen. And if some shift does occur, then I hope I stay right where I am because frankly I despise these new age dorks.

And yep, they sell t-shirts and books and ask for donations, just as I thought they would.

"We are all one... for a price!"

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Re: The Fourth Density/Ascension [Re: JohnnyZampano]
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JohnnyZampano said:
sunset_mission said:
Did you miss the part where it was written in the 80's and channeled? :shrug: You don't need to believe anything in this thread if you don't want to; I'm only presenting this information here for others to approach and those who would actually read it as opposed to dismissing it as "new-age hogwash". Is the notion that everything is part of the Source/all is one really such bullshit? This is merely ancient knowledge explained thoroughly and by a source that, y'know, isn't fraught with incomplete, inferior human knowledge and biases.



No the notion that everything is one is not bullshit, its also not new at all. I just can't really understand how people buy into this crap thinking that come 2012 they are going to transcend, or shift, or whatever the fuck they think is going to happen. And if some shift does occur, then I hope I stay right where I am because frankly I despise these new age dorks.

And yep, they sell t-shirts and books and ask for donations, just as I thought they would.

"We are all one... for a price!"



Did you read through the post I made? Alot of these new-agers do indeed spout bullshit; hence why I don't follow any of them. The Law of One is the only material I read of this nature since it is presented undistorted by humans. Are you familiar with the phenomenon of channeling? If I read this stuff before I read about Edgar Cayce I would've said "awww this is BS", however as it turns out I read one before the other and it allowed me to digest it more. Considering that humans do and have accessed the Akashic Records before why is it impossible for us to communicate with an existence of a higher/different dimension?

I don't see how they selling t-shirts/books/asking for donations undermines their legitimacy? You don't have to donate, or buy a t-shirt, or a book. I didn't. I'm happy enough reading this material and attempting to integrate what I've learned into my own life (which I have... and the benefits have been quite extraordinary for me).

Wait a minute... what site are you talking about that sells t-shirts? The maya2012 one or the lawofone.info site? I only linked to the former because it provides the raw info on it. I didn't see anything of the sort on the pure lawofone site.

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Re: The Fourth Density/Ascension [Re: sunset_mission]
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Yep, I knew it.

http://www.lawofone.info/

Doesn't have t-shirts/books/asking for donations, it's just pure information. Ignore the maya-2012 link. Read that one. No such donations or whatever.

In fact I'm going to remove the maya link to avoid confusion. I was trying to save you guys the trouble of having to sift through ALLLLL THAT INFORMATIIOOOONNNNNN but, y'know what?

Too bad. You're getting it all. :smilingpuppy:

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Re: The Fourth Density/Ascension [Re: JohnnyZampano]
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JohnnyZampano said:
Blah blah blah, nothing new here.

Seems like another brainwashed new age post. There is no proof, just some guys writing shit up on the internet for the masses to believe in. Where's the part where they ask for your money?



Also known as every religion ever (if you substitute on the internet with in books)

That's some interesting information you posted OP. Thank you for sharing it.

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Re: The Fourth Density/Ascension [Re: Aser]
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Aser said:
JohnnyZampano said:
Blah blah blah, nothing new here.

Seems like another brainwashed new age post. There is no proof, just some guys writing shit up on the internet for the masses to believe in. Where's the part where they ask for your money?



Also known as every religion ever (if you substitute on the internet with in books)

That's some interesting information you posted OP. Thank you for sharing it.



Can't be said for Buddhism if you count that as a religion, the Buddha just laid it all out and said do the work and see for yourself. None of this blind faith stuff.

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Re: The Fourth Density/Ascension [Re: JohnnyZampano]
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JohnnyZampano said:
Aser said:
JohnnyZampano said:
Blah blah blah, nothing new here.

Seems like another brainwashed new age post. There is no proof, just some guys writing shit up on the internet for the masses to believe in. Where's the part where they ask for your money?



Also known as every religion ever (if you substitute on the internet with in books)

That's some interesting information you posted OP. Thank you for sharing it.



Can't be said for Buddhism if you count that as a religion, the Buddha just laid it all out and said do the work and see for yourself. None of this blind faith stuff.



And the only way that you know this is because somebody wrote it down. So maybe Buddah didn't do it himself, but someone did.

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