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Re: Breaking: Congresswoman, 6 Others, Killed By Gunman [Re: Prisoner#1]
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First, all you non-violence Ghandi wannabes need to remember something; ghandi got shot.

Sometimes, violence is necessary.

Now i'm not sure about this lady's politics, apparently she voted for the bailouts, or what the shooter's problem is, but one thing i'm sure of is that when the government steps outside it's bounds and outside of the law, the SECOND amendment was created so that the people can kill them and restore rule of law, and the republic.

The first amendment being free speech.

Now if all you Americans are too pussy to make use of the second amendment, Those who understand the power of violence and tyranny will eventually enslave you period.


So, once again, while violence is not fun, it is at times necessary.

Unless you are willing to give your life for what you believe, what are you? nothing.


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Re: Breaking: Congresswoman, 6 Others, Killed By Gunman [Re: destructo_low]
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destructo_low said:
Groovy Grant said:
Prisoner where are you going with this? Are you defending a guy that just killed 5 people (one of which was a 9 year old girl)? Are you comparing people on this board who are expressing sadness and remorse for such as awful act of being the same as the killer?


Sometimes you're a complicated guy...



He isn't defending him. He is saying that previous posts were defending the gunman by stating that he was mentally ill or "brainwashed" to do it, but that we shouldn't try to cover up his actions using excuses.



Too true, he isn't defending him.  He wants him to accept responsibility and not have a way
to blame a political party. 


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Women look at themselves and they seem utterly human, when looking at men they see proud
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Re: Breaking: Congresswoman, 6 Others, Killed By Gunman [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Groovy Grant said:
Prisoner where are you going with this? Are you defending a guy that just killed 5 people (one of which was a 9 year old girl)? Are you comparing people on this board who are expressing sadness and remorse for such as awful act of being the same as the killer?


Sometimes you're a complicated guy...



I'm not defending anyone especially not this turd, the comparison I made
of this guy with many users on this board are accurate when it comes to
the rants of this guy and what appears to be his political convictions,
this guy very well could have been a member here based on what I've seen
and read




Bodhi of Ankou said:
Excellent, Hope these politician murders start becoming a common occurrence. They need to let it be known that they are not invincible and in absolute control.



america as a nation needs to stand against congress, not a lone gunman
that kills and injures innocent people

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Re: Breaking: Congresswoman, 6 Others, Killed By Gunman [Re: Prisoner#1]
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It sickens me all of you F---- who whine and whine about a little kid dying, while your F---ing military is killing children daily.

*restraining myself for pub talk*


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Re: Breaking: Congresswoman, 6 Others, Killed By Gunman [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Excellent, Hope these politician murders start becoming a common occurrence. They need to let it be known that they are not invincible and in absolute control.



Yeah bro!  Kill 'em all!

...

:stanhopefacepalm:


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Re: Breaking: Congresswoman, 6 Others, Killed By Gunman [Re: Shins]
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Shins said:
First, all you non-violence Ghandi wannabes need to remember something; ghandi got shot.

Sometimes, violence is necessary.

Now i'm not sure about this lady's politics, apparently she voted for the bailouts, or what the shooter's problem is, but one thing i'm sure of is that when the government steps outside it's bounds and outside of the law, the SECOND amendment was created so that the people can kill them and restore rule of law, and the republic.

The first amendment being free speech.

Now if all you Americans are too pussy to make use of the second amendment, Those who understand the power of violence and tyranny will eventually enslave you period.


So, once again, while violence is not fun, it is at times necessary.

Unless you are willing to give your life for what you believe, what are you? nothing.




Giving your life is not the same as committing murder.


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Men look at themselves and they see flawed humans, we look at women and we see perfect
GODDESSES
Women look at themselves and they seem utterly human, when looking at men they see proud
GODS.


~Casil



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Re: Breaking: Congresswoman, 6 Others, Killed By Gunman [Re: Shins]
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Shins said:
First, all you non-violence Ghandi wannabes need to remember something; ghandi got shot.

Sometimes, violence is necessary.



Ghandi also said that if you cannot commit to non violence then take up arms

Quote:
Now i'm not sure about this lady's politics, apparently she voted for the bailouts, or what the shooter's problem is, but one thing i'm sure of is that when the government steps outside it's bounds and outside of the law, the SECOND amendment was created so that the people can kill them and restore rule of law, and the republic.



not quite, and 'the people' is not determined as a single person

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Re: Breaking: Congresswoman, 6 Others, Killed By Gunman [Re: Todcasil]
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Todcasil said:
Giving your life is not the same as committing murder.



committing your life to a goal or cause is far better than taking a life or giving your life for one

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Re: Breaking: Congresswoman, 6 Others, Killed By Gunman [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
not quite, and 'the people' is not determined as a single person



Whatever... "we the people" was determined in the constitution.

Rogue political killers are a gray area IMO on one hand, at least they have the balls to do it,  on the other hand, who knows how misguided or what kind of politics they prefer.


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Re: Breaking: Congresswoman, 6 Others, Killed By Gunman [Re: Shins]
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Shins said:
Prisoner#1 said:
not quite, and 'the people' is not determined as a single person



Whatever... "we the people" was determined in the constitution.



I am not a we nor am I the people, I'm a person, an I.

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Re: Breaking: Congresswoman, 6 Others, Killed By Gunman [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
Todcasil said:
Giving your life is not the same as committing murder.



committing your life to a goal or cause is far better than taking a life or giving your life for one




Thats why I like ya, pris :thumbup:


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Men look at themselves and they see flawed humans, we look at women and we see perfect
GODDESSES
Women look at themselves and they seem utterly human, when looking at men they see proud
GODS.


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Re: Breaking: Congresswoman, 6 Others, Killed By Gunman [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Excellent, Hope these politician murders start becoming a common occurrence. They need to let it be known that they are not invincible and in absolute control.



You must go.  Permanently.


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Re: Breaking: Congresswoman, 6 Others, Killed By Gunman [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
Bodhi of Ankou said:
Excellent, Hope these politician murders start becoming a common occurrence. They need to let it be known that they are not invincible and in absolute control.



You must go.  Permanently.



ironic.


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Re: Breaking: Congresswoman, 6 Others, Killed By Gunman [Re: Shins]
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Shins said:
Prisoner#1 said:
not quite, and 'the people' is not determined as a single person



Whatever... "we the people" was determined in the constitution.

Rogue political killers are a gray area IMO on one hand, at least they have the balls to do it,  on the other hand, who knows how misguided or what kind of politics they prefer.



What difference does it make?  And who do you think you are that you can determine which politicians elected by the people are deserving of assassination?  Because, given your politics, that kind of general policy might just be detrimental to your health.


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Re: Breaking: Congresswoman, 6 Others, Killed By Gunman [Re: Shins]
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Shins said:
zappaisgod said:
Bodhi of Ankou said:
Excellent, Hope these politician murders start becoming a common occurrence. They need to let it be known that they are not invincible and in absolute control.



You must go.  Permanently.



ironic.



No.  You should go, too.


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Re: Breaking: Congresswoman, 6 Others, Killed By Gunman [Re: Shins]
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Shins said:
First, all you non-violence Ghandi wannabes need to remember something; ghandi got shot.

Sometimes, violence is necessary.

Now i'm not sure about this lady's politics, apparently she voted for the bailouts, or what the shooter's problem is, but one thing i'm sure of is that when the government steps outside it's bounds and outside of the law, the SECOND amendment was created so that the people can kill them and restore rule of law, and the republic.

The first amendment being free speech.

Now if all you Americans are too pussy to make use of the second amendment, Those who understand the power of violence and tyranny will eventually enslave you period.


So, once again, while violence is not fun, it is at times necessary.




Violence happens, but I wouldn't say its necessary.  Just highly probably in many situations. Ghandi did amazing things for the world with his nonviolence ideals, and his getting shot doesn't speak poorly on those ideals at all.  His last word was "RAM." This is the name of God in Hinduism, they say if you speak it upon death you go immediately beyond the beyond and achieve enlightenment.  Now, you might not believe this, I'm not sure if I even do, but this was a man who to his dying breath knew what he believed in.  I seriously do not think things would have been better if he adopted violence to save himself from our cruel world.


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Re: Breaking: Congresswoman, 6 Others, Killed By Gunman [Re: Todcasil]
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Todcasil said:
Prisoner#1 said:
Todcasil said:
Giving your life is not the same as committing murder.



committing your life to a goal or cause is far better than taking a life or giving your life for one




Thats why I like ya, pris :thumbup:





I've always believe it's better to live for my country than to die for it

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Re: Breaking: Congresswoman, 6 Others, Killed By Gunman [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
linkamathingy said:
Prisoner#1 said:
ah yes... anything that disallows him from accepting responsibility for
his own actions and can be used to blame Sarah Palin



what the hell do you think you're replying about? so confusing



you're saying there's a possibility he was a 'manchurian candidate'
that he was programmed to do this, why couldnt it have been something of
his own volition, why'd this have to be because he was programmed or he
was 'mentally ill', in fact, based on what I've read on him so far, it's
looking like half the members of this board could be the next assassin
because I've read much of the same thing in various forums here

are we now to believe that all the hippies are mentally ill?



clarifying a bit here: i said i "wonder." I have no clue, I was throwing it out there.


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Re: Breaking: Congresswoman, 6 Others, Killed By Gunman [Re: linkamathingy]
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Quote:
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.



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Re: Breaking: Congresswoman, 6 Others, Killed By Gunman [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
What difference does it make?  And who do you think you are that you can determine which politicians elected by the people are deserving of assassination?  Because, given your politics, that kind of general policy might just be detrimental to your health.



True, and that's why i call it a grey area.  However, i believe that a fully informed and enlightened populace would do a fairly good job.

Quote:
“No President should fear public scrutiny of his program. From that scrutiny comes understanding; and from that understanding comes support or opposition. And both are necessary... I have complete confidence in the response and dedication of our citizens whenever they are fully informed.”


- JFK

Ironically, those words got him killed, see how that works?  The fascists don't want an informed populace because they fear public scrutiny, and for good reason.

How do you stop a determined, politically influential fascist who's ready to kill you and your family at the drop of a hat? 

Gandhi did not work. India is full of corruption.


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