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Offlinewavesoflight
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need some medical insight.
    #1352243 - 03/05/03 11:22 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

i've been a lurker here for quite some time now, and i finally feel comfortable consuming mushies. anyways, there is one thing i just thought of that i need an answer to in order to do them. I am allergic to penecilin(sp?) and also aspirin(dont know if that info matters), will i be allergic to mushrooms as well then? reason behind thinkin this is that penecilin is a fungi as is a mushie. thanks- it will give me the peace of mind i need :smile: 


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Re: need some medical insight. [Re: wavesoflight]
    #1352255 - 03/05/03 11:28 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I'm no doctor, but I'm guessing that since the chemicals involved are very different, no...
I mean, grapes grow on vines, and so do pumpkins... but being allergic to one doesn't necassarily mean you'd be allergic to the other...


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Re: need some medical insight. [Re: wavesoflight]
    #1352317 - 03/05/03 12:07 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Be very careful.  One of the common contaminations found when growing mushrooms is Penicillin.  I'm not a medical doctor, and this isn't medical advice.  :smile:


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Re: need some medical insight. [Re: wavesoflight]
    #1352523 - 03/05/03 01:43 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Penicillin is a chemical produced by the penicillium fungus. Just because you're allergic to a chemical produced by a particular fungus doesn't mean you're allergic to any fungi.


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Re: need some medical insight. [Re: zeta]
    #1352543 - 03/05/03 01:50 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Are you allergic to regular table mushrooms?


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Re: need some medical insight. [Re: zeta]
    #1352574 - 03/05/03 02:04 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Penicillin is a chemical produced by the penicillium fungus.




Re-read the line I quoted above.  If you grow mushrooms that are contaminated with the penicillium fungus, the penicillium fungus is producing the chemical penicillin.  If you are allergic to penicillin, then you could have a reaction.  Not from the fungus, but from the chemical that the fungus is producing.

The cubensis mycelium network can draw nutrients, water, and toxins from far away and concentrate them in the fruit body.  If you doubt this, put a drop or three of copper II sulfate (in solution) on a fruiting cake and watch what happens.  (If you do this, don't eat the dead fruit or cake!)

If you read any of my posts in the contamination forum, then you know that I tend to error on the side of extreme caution.  I have worked in a lab and have seen first hand how bad some of these can be.  Too many people on here post about a casing or cake that is covered in 'green mold', but think the fruit is ok to eat.  There are many 'green molds' and penicillium is one of them.  Is a life really worth risking against a trip?

If I were the poster and wanted to eat shrooms, I would only eat ones that I had grown myself and knew to be free of anything even remotely odd.  I would not trust anything grown by a friend, and especially not anything from a dealer.  If my allergy was very sensitive, I would try one of several different drugs instead such as DMT or salvia or mescaline or LSD  or mdma or even DXM.  Of course I am not the poster, so... :smile:

[edit: fixed a typo or two]


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Re: need some medical insight. [Re: Seuss]
    #1354213 - 03/06/03 08:36 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

That's some good advice.


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Re: need some medical insight. [Re: wavesoflight]
    #1354243 - 03/06/03 08:45 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I'm allergic to penicillin as well, and shroom every few months with no problems..


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Re: need some medical insight. [Re: Strumpling]
    #1356306 - 03/07/03 06:35 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

wow- thanks for all the help! i really do appreciate it. ill have to do some more research or just get more suggestions. but im glad to know more about it now, also nice to see soemone else allergic thats doing mushies. my buddy is booming tonight and wanted me to with him- but looks like ill still hold off, im in no rush anways. thanks again
EDIT: just thought of something,. should i take like a little amount and if nothing happens in terms of a allergic reaction then i will be more comfortable. is that even a good idea? may seem pussyfoot on this- but i want things to be "right" for occasion.


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Re: need some medical insight. [Re: wavesoflight]
    #1358244 - 03/08/03 02:06 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

who knows, why don't you do what a dermatologist does and put a little bit of a shrooms on a needle and poke it into your skin on your back. If it swells up or whatever allergic reaction then you know that you're allergic to it. Yep, penicillin and shrooms are both fungus, but Idk if they're the same. Shit, you might be allergic to shrooms, sorry to hear it if that's the case.


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Re: need some medical insight. [Re: wavesoflight]
    #1358297 - 03/08/03 02:28 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

hey man don't feel like you're being a pussy..... its always good to be cautious about something you're not very familiar with - If somebody thinks you're a pussy for taking your time and making sure you're going about things the right way, then it is my opinion you are smarter than they :wink:


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