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Re: Raves v.s. Psychedelic Trance Festivals [Re: Hamurabi]
    #1823515 - 08/17/03 07:04 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Raves v.s. Psychedelic Trance Festivals [Re: dumlovesyou]
    #1824441 - 08/18/03 12:12 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

for me, rave is the root of goa, (which as I understand it is just another name for psytrance) it's just that goa is for those with thinner skin than most. raves haven't been about plur since the mid 90's - about when they became "cool". well, most people who are well known to the (big kid) rave scene don't use drugs and are more interested in the music and the ass and cool looking dancing, whereas goa is all about finding friends and dancing like a hippie, and taking drugs.

I like goa more, but I have to admit- there's hotter girls at raves and better music at raves (common... epic drum roles... gag-- except shpongled, they rule).


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Re: Raves v.s. Psychedelic Trance Festivals [Re: Malachi]
    #1824459 - 08/18/03 12:16 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

at the rave I was at last night it was: junglist MCing (insane) and DnB in the main area. the smallest area was psytrance. The best area was 2step dark tech. Cant say I've been to a pschedelic festival yet.. they are all to far away. Personally, I like to stick to good underground parties. USC7 was too regulated, not underground at all. Cops and security guards at every turn trying to bust people for what will go on anyways.


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Re: Raves v.s. Psychedelic Trance Festivals [Re: LikwidDrawp]
    #1824561 - 08/18/03 12:56 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

yeah it's so lame when rent a cops come flashing lights at me...


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Re: Raves v.s. Psychedelic Trance Festivals [Re: Malachi]
    #1824607 - 08/18/03 01:14 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

its really lame when they bust 16 year old girls for posession then tell them to work the crowd in order to beat the rap. They use these bitches to entrap motherfuckers and shit.

I mean, cmon, if you were at a rave and some doe eyed 16 yo came up to you and asked for some E, I bet you would get her some even if you didnt have any personally. Everyone at a rave is a potential dope dealer, or at least thats they way it used to be, now everyone is paranoid cuzza bullshit tactics like the above


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Re: Raves v.s. Psychedelic Trance Festivals [Re: Hamurabi]
    #1825506 - 08/18/03 10:39 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

personally i think a rave is just an illegal party
with dance music outdoors or in a warehouse

trance music is shite though
i went to america for summer before and the trance music peole listened to was fucking awful
like stuff people in europe were listenin to five or so years ago or even longer
over here you only hear that shit in the ccharts cos little kids get their moms to buy it for them in the supermarket

no grown up would dare drive around listenin to this shite
over there though old people (like 25) drove aroung belting it out
of open topped cars with roof off thiunkin they were the dogs bollix
it was boston though, which iwas hugely disappointed with as a whole
im sure new york wouldnt be the same and obviously definitely not detroit and presumably not the west coast

i think dance music just has a bigger more knowledgeable market in europe that is where the majority is made after all


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Re: Raves v.s. Psychedelic Trance Festivals [Re: DoctorJ]
    #1827211 - 08/18/03 06:42 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

holy shit man, that would be the worst thing ever.  but no, I sure as hell would not get any 16 year old girl who I didn't know any x.  no way.  unless I was rolling myself, in which case I'd probably buy it for her. :wink:

thegoone- yeah, you must've gone to the wrong place... trance isn't popular amongst those "in the know" or "in the scene" or whatever trype... I like goa and I like artists that have trancey elements to the music (BT, shasha) but not straight up cheesy epic trance.  prog house is where it's at for dancing, DnB and jungle and hardcore are cool too. 

but you're right, europe is where the new shiznit, the new sounds and whatnot come from.


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Re: Raves v.s. Psychedelic Trance Festivals [Re: esin]
    #10381080 - 05/22/09 11:14 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Raves have absolutely nothing to do with psychedelic trance parties. ..Raves are decadent techno parties where people go to eat drugs and stomp to the beat all night long (at least where i live). The perfect place for drug dealers and the likes.


A psy-trance party is not just some kind of rave where people eat psychedelics.

It's a gathering where people try to enter a psychedelic trance through dance, sound and the energy from the other freaks. It's not mundane as a rave. People dance together so they connect spiritually in the same state of mind, using the trance sounds as coordination into that state.  A good party can be one of the most incredible experiences of someone's life.

Goa Gil once said that the party is "a reunion of all friends that really feel the trance spirit. This is not just a disco in the forest, it's an iniciation. It's together as a tribe, offering to the cosmic spirit. The whole party becomes the offer, the music becomes the offer, the dance becomes the offer...The longer goes on the more the trance comes. And comes to a moment that every song is so perfect that every body and every mind keep connected as one in a cosmic orgasm..." (on Liquid Crystal Vision).

Understand that trance is not just another form of techno music. It has much much more to it. Something that cannot be explained through words. You got to go to a party and tune in to find out :tongue:!   




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Re: Raves v.s. Psychedelic Trance Festivals [Re: Psylomonk]
    #10382212 - 05/22/09 03:50 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Me either. I have been a part of that offering many times.

There is a festival going on right now close by.

I cant make it this year. Too much work and not enough funds(not that you really need money to have a blast)

This festival is known as a Psychedelic Trans Cosmic Space Carnival.

Harmony Park is where I learned all about being one with your brother.

Nowadays, things are starting to feel like they are shifting to more of a rave type environment.

Lots of E, blow, and meth goes around where there really didn't used to be any..


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Re: Raves v.s. Psychedelic Trance Festivals [Re: Hamurabi]
    #10382725 - 05/22/09 05:43 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks Boppity for all the information.

I'm now very interested in these psytrance festivals... they sound exactly what a rave SHOULD be.


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Re: Raves v.s. Psychedelic Trance Festivals [Re: Boppity604]
    #10382745 - 05/22/09 05:45 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Yes there is, just visit the following site if you're in the US:

http://www.psytrance.us/

and the following for Global info:

http://www.psynews.org/

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Re: Raves v.s. Psychedelic Trance Festivals [Re: Psylomonk]
    #10382833 - 05/22/09 06:02 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Awesome five year old thread bump.


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Re: Raves v.s. Psychedelic Trance Festivals [Re: Malachi]
    #13031399 - 08/10/10 02:17 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

What is with all the hate on epic trance? I assume you guys mean the more mainstream people like Tiesto and such. I honestly love that music and i don't see how you could hate it. I understand a lot more douche bags listen to it, but that doesn't mean it isn't good.


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Re: Raves v.s. Psychedelic Trance Festivals [Re: 4896744]
    #13033509 - 08/10/10 09:59 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

The music drives the vibe.  At raves, you never know what kind of music will be played.  Some good, some bad, some great.  Psy festivals are all about the music, and the vibe reflects that.  I have played at raves, clubs and psy festivals all over the US and I definitely prefer outdoor psy festivals!


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Re: Raves v.s. Psychedelic Trance Festivals [Re: 4896744]
    #13242962 - 09/25/10 01:11 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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What is with all the hate on epic trance? I assume you guys mean the more mainstream people like Tiesto and such. I honestly love that music and i don't see how you could hate it. I understand a lot more douche bags listen to it, but that doesn't mean it isn't good.




epic trance sounds like shit to me. im just an asshole psytrance purist, so my opinion means little since im incredibly biased.

When im on a trance dancefloor zonked out of my mind on LSD i look for music that is more psychedelic, than "epic". I enjoy music with a focus placed on the rhythmic structures, percussive elements, and non-pitched organic sounds that nighttime psytrance delivers. The epic or big-room style trance has annoying leads and synths that are downright cheesy. On acid this is terrible to listen to. Im trying to trance out into super shamanic trance dance mode. I don't want  to hear some bitch singing. I want to hear something twisted, like a baby crying sampled through distortion and timestretching or an alien 303 squelching out a forgotten digital language.

The epic style of trance died in my area (thank god) around 2002 when all the steroid using douchebags moved back to the house scene again and abandoned their dolphin  trance. the only time you hear it is at super omega arminvanburen raves like nocturnal. I remember being very upset with this type of music at nocturnal it was quite annoying. don't expect everyone to like it.


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Re: Raves v.s. Psychedelic Trance Festivals [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #13243316 - 09/25/10 03:29 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

i'd rather be camping than at a rave. that being said, i most prefer psychedelics in the privacy of a comfortable home with friends.


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Re: Raves v.s. Psychedelic Trance Festivals [Re: millzy]
    #13244017 - 09/25/10 11:01 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

To me, a Rave is a Dance Party.

Psytrance is rather big in the underground rave scene.. or the 'outdoor' rave scene as it were.

But also drum&bass, dubstep, reggae/ragga, and even hardstyle.

The commercial rave scene is slightly different it seems, with more of this 'epic trance',
house, techno, electronica

Theyre all 'raves'. But some are more 'alternative' and 'psychedelic' than others


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Re: Raves v.s. Psychedelic Trance Festivals [Re: Noteworthy]
    #13244240 - 09/25/10 12:11 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Raves don't play popular dance music so much in europe and there are no volume limits because it's illegal. They're outdoors here aswell. TBH I think the raves over there perhaps aren't very good?


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Re: Raves v.s. Psychedelic Trance Festivals [Re: Grapefruit]
    #13244446 - 09/25/10 01:13 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Does anybody else realize that this thread is 7 years old?
No big deal, just wondering.


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Re: Raves v.s. Psychedelic Trance Festivals [Re: bryguy27007]
    #13245202 - 09/25/10 04:14 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Probably not. That being said, I really want to go to a psy trance festival now. Is there a working website with information in the US?


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