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Anonymous #5 said:

When both become more than content with the connection, there is no desire for the extreme. I don't crave heroin like an addict does, and neither parties desire more despite previously being almost completely addicted to fuck your brains out sex.

I'll show I'm a man in the bedroom an out.
I cook, I clean, I kiss her before we leave for work. I have surprised her at work with gifts and such.

When she is sick to the point of barfing, I hold her hair back and rub her back.

I turn her bad days in good ones. I do what a real man should do, make her feel like the happiest woman on earth.

We may both be equal, but I will always put her before myself, and she says she does the same to me.

We are young, probably will not marry and find someone else someday, but for now I at least can be an example of what she should find -a real man.

I have nothing to prove to an anon forum, but hope to be an example to others.

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You may not be winning the favor of the cock-chaffed neckbeards on this forum, but you certainly have won the admiration of one certain lady shroomerite.

To be honest... it really shows when a guy watches too much porn. A lot of porn conditions men to have the perception that being rough, disrespectful, completely selfish, and causing discomfort for the lady is the only way to 'pleasure' a woman.

Despite how much oohing and ahhing the porn star is doing in the video, being:
-fisted,
-throat fucked to the point of vomiting,
-abrasively fucked anally and stretched (ugh! and yet guys cringe at the idea of a woman doing this to them with a strap on?)
-spat on
-denigrated

and COMPLETELY IGNORING THE CLIT doesn't really get me (and a lot of other women) off.

Porn gives guys the idea tat they can be great Adonis's in bed by being selfish and completely talentless. Unfortunately a lot of women also don't know better. I didn't either until an experience with a real gentleman.

Porn could have helped promote sexual exploration, liberation and etc in society but the increasingly extreme and abusive path down which it is heading, combined with the difficulty young (and old!) people have in telling male orientated fantasy from reality is going to lead to a lot of unsatisfied women and men in the near future. The industry needs a real turn around, and quickly.

But hey, who cares right? AS LONG AS I CAN JERK MY DICK TO FREE PORN I DONT GIVE A SHIT!

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It is easier to call guys out on in in real life on it though. The guys know if the gals really liked it, broadcasting their love for it would gather postive attention, instead of getting verbal abuse. Online it is too convenient to say all women they know love it. Not sure who he pays to have sex with, but they love it I guess.

I am truly fearful the next step in porn, for even a lot of pornographers are at a loss what else can be done in terms of extreme. Hopefully something becomes the wall people hit, and get frustrated and then reality can set in.

Anonymous #16 said:

this thread is pretty much a mirror image of the state of things in the west today.

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Anonymous #16 said:no one in their right mind thinks throat fucking is alright.

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Anonymous #16 said:i'm willing to bet you guys get off on forced anal scenes too.

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Anonymous #16 said:
try not jacking off for a week or looking at porn or recreating it in your head... then try to watch one of those videos. i'm convinced that culturally educed compulsive behaviors are the reason our country is so terribly fucked up right now.

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Anonymous #16 said:

i'm sure it's hard to see if you're in the middle of it all.

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Anonymous #16 said:and btw way, i'd love to hear a little about these 'classy' women that just love being forced within inches of death by your dick.

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Anonymous #16 said:i'm sure they feel real classy after the act. they're most definitely keepers.

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Anonymous #22 said:

you're saying it wasn't big before, yet Deep Throat came out in the 70s.

this is a movie where a doctor tells a woman she's never had an orgasm because her clit is in the back of her throat.


seriously
fucking

seriously.

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Anonymous #16 said:

damn a porn historian, huh? i'm sure 'deep throat' is like watching blues clues compared to 'felony throat fucking'... but i guess it's hard to figure that out, right? but you chose to focus on my weakest and least relevant point. i think that says a lot about your whole defense.

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Anonymous #1 said:

Anonymous #16 said:

this thread is pretty much a mirror image of the state of things in the west today.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_hell_in_a_handbasket

Anonymous #16 said:no one in their right mind thinks throat fucking is alright.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_scotsman

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Anonymous #16 said:i'm willing to bet you guys get off on forced anal scenes too.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_fear
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

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Anonymous #16 said:
try not jacking off for a week or looking at porn or recreating it in your head... then try to watch one of those videos. i'm convinced that culturally educed compulsive behaviors are the reason our country is so terribly fucked up right now.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_correlation

Anonymous #16 said:

i'm sure it's hard to see if you're in the middle of it all.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusion_of_asymmetric_insight

Anonymous #16 said:and btw way, i'd love to hear a little about these 'classy' women that just love being forced within inches of death by your dick.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_ridicule

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Anonymous #16 said:i'm sure they feel real classy after the act. they're most definitely keepers.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

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Well said.  Too bad #16 is too busy raving and ranting about porn to bother correcting his logical fallacies.

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Anonymous #1 said:
Here is what I have learned from this thread:

1) If you want to mouthfuck, it's because you learned it from porn and are trying to enact a media-created fantasy
2) If you do go forward and engage in it, you will be on a slippery slope to fucking children in their ears, and inserting moose antlers into your anus to get your rocks off
3) any woman who wants to be mouthfucked is one or all of the following, a) not worthy of your respect, b) does not respect herself, c) is only doing it to placate your sick desires
4) if you have engaged in mouthfucking in the past but have stopped for whatever reason, you are allowed to endlessly moralize about how it's wrong and sick, not to mention psychologically damaging and injurious to health and society as a whole
5) the act is demeaning even if completely consensual by both parties
6) you cannot love your partner and engage in mouthfucking

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This. 

Anonymous #16 said:

no one in their right mind thinks throat fucking is alright.

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clearly false.  I love it, the women I've been with love it, but apparently haters gonna hate. 

And just for the record, I only started on my throat fuckin' odyssey because a chick explicitly requested it.  You can stop blaming porn for the UTTER COLLAPSE OF WESTERN SOCIETY INTO SIN AND PERDITION and start letting those of us who are less sexually repressed continue having fun now, kthxbai.

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Completely true, I mean just the way it was done compared to today's films shows how far the anty has been upped. If you look at deepthroat the movie, versus something common today like gagfactor the only conclusion is things got a whole lot more fucked up.

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Anonymous #5 said:Perhaps the worst site is facial abuse. When they jam a cock down someones throat to the point that vomit burns their eyes, and that becomes a turn on for a viewer, it is sickening.

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Anonymous #5 said:Bulimics get high off the endorphins when they purge, and yet it is looked down upon because it is harmful to the person in every way possible.

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Anonymous #5 said:Getting off to survival reflex endorphin rushes is a sign of something wrong.

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Anonymous #5 said:To the posters with the wiki links: Linking to wikipedia is getting tiresome, sure you can point out what appeal to ridicules are, and ad hominem, but this is about fucked up sexuality that can only get worse from here.

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Anonymous #5 said:Damn parents won't touch the subject of love and sex with kids now and days due to sex ed classes that utterly fail, and they think "O they will learn from cable and the internet." Well when they walk in on Johnny going on with an ass to mouth facefuck with Susie, they will then know just how much they fucked up.

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Anonymous #5 said:Brings me to a side topic, the popular ass to mouth commonly placed with the other rough stuff. There are infections in the adult entertainment industry that have never been seen before due the practice of ass to mouth, especially when it is a chick being fucked in the ass and it is jammed in another chick's throat.

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Anonymous #5 said:
There shouldn't be any appeal to a practice such as this. It is dangerous, disgusting, and if one get's off to it, you need to take a serious break from porn.

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New York Time article by Steven Pinker:
But consider these situations:

Julie is traveling in France on summer vacation from college with her brother Mark. One night they decide that it would be interesting and fun if they tried making love. Julie was already taking birth-control pills, but Mark uses a condom, too, just to be safe. They both enjoy the sex but decide not to do it again. They keep the night as a special secret, which makes them feel closer to each other. What do you think about that — was it O.K. for them to make love?

Most people immediately declare that these acts are wrong and then grope to justify why they are wrong. It’s not so easy. In the case of Julie and Mark, people raise the possibility of children with birth defects, but they are reminded that the couple were diligent about contraception. They suggest that the siblings will be emotionally hurt, but the story makes it clear that they weren’t. They submit that the act would offend the community, but then recall that it was kept a secret. Eventually many people admit, “I don’t know, I can’t explain it, I just know it’s wrong.” People don’t generally engage in moral reasoning, Haidt argues, but moral rationalization: they begin with the conclusion, coughed up by an unconscious emotion, and then work backward to a plausible justification.

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Anonymous #5 said:
I said it once, and I will say it again. Sex liberation became enslavement.

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Anonymous #5 said:Kids "study" porn, I kid you not. Guys will say they take notes to try something out.

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Anonymous #5 said:You cannot completely shield yourselves from it, but you should do your best, as men and women exposed to erotica they are uncomfortable with they subconsciously become more and more turned on to it. They build a tolerance to what they see as well, and from there the sky is the limit. Perversion to violent sex is easier than one thinks, which is why we need to take account for our actions, before our actions lead us down a road of no return.

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The mind was never ready to be bombarded with this much stimulation, and one will always attempt to achieve a greater rush. One doesn't start looking at the hardcore rough stuff (generally) until they want more of a kick then the normal porn/softcore material that once gave them just as much of a rush. One cannot win the battle, as satisfaction will never be obtained. It is simply the wrong approach.

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"To me, it says how far we've come from our puritanical roots of sexual repression, where touching your own penis was considered an abomination. "

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"False analogy. The reason it's looked down upon is not because it is harmful, but because it suggests a lack of control and a desire to conform to standards of beauty that cannot be had through willpower. There are plenty of things out there that are "harmful" that no one looks down upon (e.g. playing professional football will cause you to die at a much younger age according to reliable studies; no one I've ever met looks down on this just because it is unhealthy). "

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"You sound like some ridiculous Christian pastor, railing about gays and single mothers and how they are single-handedly causing the disintegration of our society. Ludicrous exaggerations and 'sky-is-falling' thinking. "

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Anonymous #16 said:

so are you saying there isn't supposed to be a balance? we're talking about to extremes; on one side sexual repression, on the other sexual deviation. there must be a middle ground; can you think of any aspect of life where the extreme is good?

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Anonymous #16 said:

will power has a lot to do with it. how many times a day or week to you jack off or look at porn? honestly, this is anon so please be honest for the sake of the truth. could you just stop jacking off to gag rape porn if you wanted?

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