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Re: New meth formula avoids anti-drug laws [Re: piracetam]
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I doubt there are MORE worthwhile endeavors for the starting chemist.

This would probably be the most lucrative because they can obtain all the chemicals from the store.

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Re: New meth formula avoids anti-drug laws [Re: canadadreaming]
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canadadreaming said:
I doubt there are MORE worthwhile endeavors for the starting chemist.




then your scope of chemistry must be very limited

when I was a starting chemist, i had done a few projects;
none of them required cold medicine :nonono:

much more to productive (and lucrative) chemistry than reducing some decongestants


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Re: New meth formula avoids anti-drug laws [Re: RupturedHernia]
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RupturedHernia said:
Meth amphetamine is just one type of molecule it's not "a shit load of chemicals"  Meth is just another useful phenethylamine. 

The bullshit I see posted by many users on this site regarding amphetamines is a good indication of just how successful the WOD really is.

Grow up.



Meth is disgusting and nasty.  Everyone that lives in an area where meth is prevalent knows this.

You're never going to convince people that meth is harmless or that they should 'grow up' and accept meth as readily as they do marijuana.  Their first few experiences interacting with meth-heads will ensure their lifelong distaste for the diseased shit called meth.

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Re: New meth formula avoids anti-drug laws [Re: UpSwell]
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UpSwell said:
RupturedHernia said:
Meth amphetamine is just one type of molecule it's not "a shit load of chemicals"  Meth is just another useful phenethylamine. 

The bullshit I see posted by many users on this site regarding amphetamines is a good indication of just how successful the WOD really is.

Grow up.



Meth is disgusting and nasty.  Everyone that lives in an area where meth is prevalent knows this.

You're never going to convince people that meth is harmless or that they should 'grow up' and accept meth as readily as they do marijuana.  Their first few experiences interacting with meth-heads will ensure their lifelong distaste for the diseased shit called meth.



Well propaganda is a powerful thing. I suggest education over opinion based on "hanging out with meth heads" Do you hang out with alcoholics nicotine addicts, food addicts, computer addicts or sex addicts or the worst of the worst power and money addicts and then say, wow I love these addicts? You might or might not say that but my bet is you dont and your hypocrisy and more importantly state hypocrisy really harms people.


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Re: New meth formula avoids anti-drug laws [Re: UpSwell]
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UpSwell said:
RupturedHernia said:
Meth amphetamine is just one type of molecule it's not "a shit load of chemicals"  Meth is just another useful phenethylamine. 

The bullshit I see posted by many users on this site regarding amphetamines is a good indication of just how successful the WOD really is.

Grow up.



Meth is disgusting and nasty.  Everyone that lives in an area where meth is prevalent knows this.

You're never going to convince people that meth is harmless or that they should 'grow up' and accept meth as readily as they do marijuana.  Their first few experiences interacting with meth-heads will ensure their lifelong distaste for the diseased shit called meth.




I'm 38 years old. I've used meth occasionally since I was 17.  None of your stereo types fit me or 95% of the users I've known over that time.  A MINORITY of people fuck up on meth but the same is true for all drugs.


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[quote]Coaster said:
but i thnk everything thats pure is white?
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Re: New meth formula avoids anti-drug laws [Re: Hanky]
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Hanky said:
I'm 38 years old. I've used meth occasionally since I was 17.  None of your stereo types fit me or 95% of the users I've known over that time.  A MINORITY of people fuck up on meth but the same is true for all drugs.



Stereotypes exist for a reason.

Fucking up on meth is not the same as smoking too much pot or drinking too much coffee.  Some drugs have zero effect on the local crime blotter outside of simply being illegal to use on their own.

OTOH, meth has a huge impace on local crime rates that has nothing to do with it's legal status.  If meth were 100% legal, people would still be stealing and shoplifting because it's what they like to do on meth.  They'd be getting in fights, neglecting children, leaving their nasty meth labs all over the place.  And every once in a while, a horrific, totally bizarre violent murder or torture case will come up, and sure enough, it'll be some methhead gone completely nuts who committed it.

So, while people can use drugs safely if they want, my point is simply this:

The public at large will never view meth in the same category as caffeine, pot, or even alcohol.  It's not a government conspiracy or the WoD.

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Re: New meth formula avoids anti-drug laws [Re: UpSwell]
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Whatever, you're just recycling the garbage you read in the media and see on TV.  None of your comments are based on facts or personal experience.  You can swallow all that propaganda if you like, some of us are capable of thinking for ourselves and basing our observations on personal experience.

you're a sheep.


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Coaster is an idiot...
[quote]Coaster said:
but i thnk everything thats pure is white?
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Re: New meth formula avoids anti-drug laws [Re: dondoodle]
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dondoodle said:
Well propaganda is a powerful thing. I suggest education over opinion based on "hanging out with meth heads" Do you hang out with alcoholics nicotine addicts, food addicts, computer addicts or sex addicts or the worst of the worst power and money addicts and then say, wow I love these addicts? You might or might not say that but my bet is you dont and your hypocrisy and more importantly state hypocrisy really harms people.



No I don't like addicts and I've interacted with a host of them like you say.

Having done this, I've categorized them during my time and by far meth addicts are the worst.

Categorizing food addicts, sex addicts, nicotine addicts, and computer addicts in with meth addicts is just laughable.

You can rail all you want.  Anyone who lives in a meth area knows your argument is completely and 100% full of shit.

They could stop the WoD tomorrow and people will still hate and fear meth, for good reason.  That 'minority' of people who abuse it go so fucking far off the edge and their habits and crimes are so nasty, I don't think it's likely you'll ever have it viewed as a positive or neutral substance. 

It's not a live and let live drug.

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Re: New meth formula avoids anti-drug laws [Re: UpSwell]
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Meth amphetamine IS NOT physically addictive.  As I said, all your opinions are based on the crap you've read and seen on TV.

Your point of view is worthless.


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Coaster is an idiot...
[quote]Coaster said:
but i thnk everything thats pure is white?
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Re: New meth formula avoids anti-drug laws [Re: Hanky]
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Hanky said:
Whatever, you're just recycling the garbage you read in the media and see on TV.  None of your comments are based on facts or personal experience.  You can swallow all that propaganda if you like, some of us are capable of thinking for ourselves and basing our observations on personal experience.

you're a sheep.



I'll keep you in mind the next time I see a guy zooming through WalMart picking at the scabs on his face with his wild hair, smiling his rotten toothed smile at me with his foul fucking breath.  Then I'll be like 'Hey, I'm seeing this on TV, it's propaganda.  Meth is actually harmless like pot, Hanky told me so.'

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Re: New meth formula avoids anti-drug laws [Re: UpSwell]
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As I said, you have no personal experience with the substance and you're just parroting propaganda.

Try thinking for yourself one day, it'll be a novelty.


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Coaster is an idiot...
[quote]Coaster said:
but i thnk everything thats pure is white?
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Re: New meth formula avoids anti-drug laws [Re: Hanky]
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Hanky said:
As I said, you have no personal experience with the substance and you're just parroting propaganda.

Try thinking for yourself one day, it'll be a novelty.



get owned, upswell.

you're the reason why drugs are illegal :rolleyes:


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A post about m00nshine

Anonymous #6 said:
Yes, it is. The shine stands for his job title, which is Shoe Shiner, the moon stands for the time he comes out to be a nigger, which is best suited for the negroid camouflage.

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Re: New meth formula avoids anti-drug laws [Re: Moronicus]
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Moronicus said:
Hanky said:
As I said, you have no personal experience with the substance and you're just parroting propaganda.

Try thinking for yourself one day, it'll be a novelty.



get owned, upswell.

you're the reason why drugs are illegal :rolleyes:



this ^


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Re: New meth formula avoids anti-drug laws [Re: UpSwell]
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UpSwell said:
Hanky said:
Whatever, you're just recycling the garbage you read in the media and see on TV.  None of your comments are based on facts or personal experience.  You can swallow all that propaganda if you like, some of us are capable of thinking for ourselves and basing our observations on personal experience.

you're a sheep.



I'll keep you in mind the next time I see a guy zooming through WalMart picking at the scabs on his face with his wild hair, smiling his rotten toothed smile at me with his foul fucking breath.  Then I'll be like 'Hey, I'm seeing this on TV, it's propaganda.  Meth is actually harmless like pot, Hanky told me so.'




are you serious?
so your telling me that your gonna find the most fucked up person you see,
call them a tweaker in your own head
then crack some homosexual smirk like you where right?

:congrats:


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Daily Tzolkin

:peace: :heart: :earth:

"If triangles' had a God, he would have 3 sides."

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Re: New meth formula avoids anti-drug laws [Re: tektonic]
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This recipe is dangerous, and the media should be held responsible for instructing the public on the manufacture of bombs.

Ammonium Nitrate, lithium strips, lye, I'm no chemist, but it seems to me that a drop of sweat would cause a devastating explosion.

:2cents:

the rp iodine method seems much safer, and easier if you can find the glassware.


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Re: New meth formula avoids anti-drug laws [Re: ThePheonix]
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Hello wunbadmofo.

PS:  Birch reductions are not that much different from RP, iodine reductions.

Quote:
I'm no chemist,


    You got that bit right.


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Coaster is an idiot...
[quote]Coaster said:
but i thnk everything thats pure is white?
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Re: New meth formula avoids anti-drug laws [Re: Hanky]
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So you dont think that mixing lithium, ammonium nitrate, ethyl ether, and lye together is asking for trouble?

With the rp/iodine method i was under the impression you have to burn it to blow it up. Not the case with the one pot method.


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Re: New meth formula avoids anti-drug laws [Re: ThePheonix]
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RP/iodine reductions can get out of control the same as any other reaction.  Once it starts to run away it makes it's own excessive heat and will eventually ignite itself.


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Coaster is an idiot...
[quote]Coaster said:
but i thnk everything thats pure is white?
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Re: New meth formula avoids anti-drug laws [Re: ThePheonix]
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ThePheonix said:
So you dont think that mixing lithium, ammonium nitrate, ethyl ether, and lye together is asking for trouble?

With the rp/iodine method i was under the impression you have to burn it to blow it up. Not the case with the one pot method.




your right, anything sets it off, thats why you should use plastic bottles

i had a fire like 6 years ago when i was into this stuff, since i was using plastic, outside, it just burned for a few minutes

glass&metal containers = BOOMMUTHAFUCKA


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Growery

Daily Tzolkin

:peace: :heart: :earth:

"If triangles' had a God, he would have 3 sides."

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Re: New meth formula avoids anti-drug laws [Re: Hanky]
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I dunno Hanky, I've never really heard anyone till now actually defend meth. But it makes sense when I think about it.

I can understand that it's similar to any other drug in the sense that some people really
fuck it up for others..

I think the point that upswell is trying to get across is that it has a serious potential for misuse, and those that misuse tend to really cause trouble for other people.

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