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Re: Alex Jones suspended from YouTube. [Re: JT]
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i think what you see as hateful i see as passionate. Sometimes you gotta be angry, it cant be all daisies and incense all the time. Anytime ive doubted something he's said i looked it up, and the documents are there just as he stated they would be. Alex Jones isnt special, he's not a celebrity, he just compiles information because he's passionate about what he does, anyone could do it, if they cared enough to.


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Re: Alex Jones suspended from YouTube. [Re: DieCommie]
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Qubit said:
To those crying censorship, give me a break.. This isnt anymore censorship as you not watching Bill Oreilly at night is censoring him from your house every night.

Is YouTube now obligated to carry anyone's video to avoid censorship cries?  Is every media outlet obligated to carry everyone's message?  Of course not.

If he ever is really censored, like his website gets shut down or he prints a book that gets confiscated, then Ill be among those defending his right; but this isnt even close.


Of course they're not obligated to have him on there, and just like they are free to censor anyone, I'm free to think it's bullshit.:shrug:

They may have a valid reason for it, I don't really know.


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Re: Alex Jones suspended from YouTube. [Re: blewmeanie]
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So you think they are not obligated to have him on there; but at the same time think its bullshit that they took him off?  Seems like an overt inconsistency to me :shrug: but Im glad you dont think they have an obligation to him.

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Re: Alex Jones suspended from YouTube. [Re: DieCommie]
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Qubit said:
So you think they are not obligated to have him on there; but at the same time think its bullshit that they took him off?  Seems like an overt inconsistency to me :shrug: but Im glad you dont think they have an obligation to him.


It's their site, and they can do whatever they want, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with them.


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Re: Alex Jones suspended from YouTube. [Re: blewmeanie]
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Alex Jones may have legitimate sources. However,
1) He only publishes sources which fit his beliefs, only showing part of the picture
2) He then takes these facts and draws conclusions (a conspiracy theory)
3) He then takes the conclusions and tries to predict the future and how bad it will be (fear mongering)

I suggest watching some of his old videos after the fact.

Example: In this video (google video "Alex Jones Martial Law 911 Rise of the Police State" 2:20:38)

He asserts the Bush family has Nazi ties. Asserts Schwarzenegger has Nazi ties. Both are republicans. Therefore, both are part of a global elite - and they want to make him president in 2008, the same way they brought hitler to power! Oh noes!

He also suggests Schwarzenegger has a "cult of personality" like Stalin. Therefore he wishes to become a dictator. Then he talks about how steroids give users delusions of grandeur. Schwarzenegger used steroids, therefore he too must have delusions of grandeur - like hitler.

Then (accompanied by haunting music and montages of nuclear missiles and warplanes) he asks, "What will happen when arnold has control of our military, our nuclear weapons, and our police? It is up to you, America, to stop him!"


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Re: Alex Jones suspended from YouTube. [Re: blewmeanie]
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blewmeanie said:
Qubit said:
So you think they are not obligated to have him on there; but at the same time think its bullshit that they took him off?  Seems like an overt inconsistency to me :shrug: but Im glad you dont think they have an obligation to him.


It's their site, and they can do whatever they want, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with them.


This is the point i was making. Youtube has the right to censor anything they please, and it IS censorship whether its in their right to do so, or not. But get use to the fact that the spreading of related issues are around and people are getting the picture.  The "nuts" and "tin foil hat" names, are the only thing these people have to hold onto. Spread of information is the most effect tool we have at the moment.  And the "nutcase" callers are going have to stop sticking fingers in their ears and yelling, because they are the poor folks in fear. While real freedom fighters have the courage to tell it like it is and have confidence to stop them. You may not like it, but try and debunk it.

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Re: Alex Jones suspended from YouTube. [Re: Green_T]
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Sounds just like any other media outlet.......:shrug:
Selective publishing,fear mongering,speculation.......and they have been dead wrong many times.

He works one side of the fence ,the media works the other ,both use the same tactics.


The latest stunt from our vice president was his comment about mass transit.....he said he advises everyone to steer clear of mass transit ,his quote was "I would not let my family or friends ride public transit right now" over the swine flu....whats he do ,get on the subway train the very next day.

He caught hell from mass transit and everyone was making excuses for him.


Alex might have em beat on outlandish topics ......but thats about it.

Have you watched some of the hardcore jesus shit on youtube ,makes Alex jones look tame !


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Re: Alex Jones suspended from YouTube. [Re: Green_T]
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Green_T said:
Alex Jones may have legitimate sources. However,
1) He only publishes sources which fit his beliefs, only showing part of the picture
2) He then takes these facts and draws conclusions (a conspiracy theory)
3) He then takes the conclusions and tries to predict the future and how bad it will be (fear mongering)

I suggest watching some of his old videos after the fact.

Example: In this video (google video "Alex Jones Martial Law 911 Rise of the Police State" 2:20:38)

He asserts the Bush family has Nazi ties. Asserts Schwarzenegger has Nazi ties. Both are republicans. Therefore, both are part of a global elite - and they want to make him president in 2008, the same way they brought hitler to power! Oh noes!

He also suggests Schwarzenegger has a "cult of personality" like Stalin. Therefore he wishes to become a dictator. Then he talks about how steroids give users delusions of grandeur. Schwarzenegger used steroids, therefore he too must have delusions of grandeur - like hitler.

Then (accompanied by haunting music and montages of nuclear missiles and warplanes) he asks, "What will happen when arnold has control of our military, our nuclear weapons, and our police? It is up to you, America, to stop him!"


If drawing a conclusion of all of the facts, is a far stretch from  the truth. Then you should outlaw all judiciary trials. This was meant to spread info to those who chose to take concern. Not argue whether youtube had the  right, which they obviously do. The haters have their mind made up about alex, and generally don't like doing research, period. Unless it involves shrooms and even then they end up failing at teks

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Re: Alex Jones suspended from YouTube. [Re: Jack Albertson]
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Jack Albertson said:
Ferris said:
Are you making fun of me? -_-

Alex Jones is a class A nutjob.  I was being nice for the sake of argument earlier, but I refuse to acknowledge him as "alternative media," please.

People get off on this stuff.  It's make-believe political pornography


people always say this, exactly what makes him a "class A nutjob" and dont show me some youtube video of him making funny faces or doing voices. why is he crazy? i could understand if he was just making shit up, but that's not the case.



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Re: Alex Jones suspended from YouTube. [Re: Ferris]
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Ha, I googled pthc you fucking perv.:lol:


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Re: Alex Jones suspended from YouTube. [Re: blewmeanie]
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It's an old school Growery joke, for those who remember Kidhuan



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Re: Alex Jones suspended from YouTube. [Re: Ferris]
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Alex jones was removed from youtube for business reasons. Search "hulu, removing you from youtube". it is simply the old being pushed out for a more lucrative deal with abc and disney. this is not a conspiracy, there are stock filings.

alex jones is an alarmist shit.

however, there are things happening.

google patent search. "aluminum aerosol weather". this technology is 40 years old. it is common knowledge normal contrails block UV. (http://www.knmi.nl/~velthove/aircraft.html) Just my scientifically researched theory. Microbes are on the rise.

Draw your own conclusion.

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Re: Alex Jones suspended from YouTube. [Re: stedenko]
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"I'm a little opinion whore and I know you love it! So look at me, think of me, talk about me, do you like what you see?" - - - Alex Jones


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Re: Alex Jones suspended from YouTube. [Re: Jack Albertson]
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Jack Albertson said:
i think what you see as hateful i see as passionate. Sometimes you gotta be angry, it cant be all daisies and incense all the time. Anytime ive doubted something he's said i looked it up, and the documents are there just as he stated they would be. Alex Jones isnt special, he's not a celebrity, he just compiles information because he's passionate about what he does, anyone could do it, if they cared enough to.


nope he's a neurotic pseudoscientist who compiles dung.



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Re: Alex Jones suspended from YouTube. [Re: Bridgeburner]
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I don't think he's crazy, he seems like a highly clever con man to me. He piles together allot of out of context facts with real truths, and ties them all together into these grand schemes that are designed to play on the fears of his easily swayed fan base.

Half of the time I can't help but wonder if he's nothing more than a puppet paid to discredit anyone who questions the behind the scenes international political racket.


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Re: Alex Jones suspended from YouTube. [Re: blewmeanie]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot


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Re: Alex Jones suspended from YouTube. [Re: blewmeanie]
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I like how Alex Jones eats everything he says. GARBLE GARBLE GARBLE!


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Re: Alex Jones suspended from YouTube. [Re: GoshAllMighty]
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Re: Alex Jones suspended from YouTube. [Re: blewmeanie]
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blewmeanie said:
I don't think he's crazy, he seems like a highly clever con man to me. He piles together allot of out of context facts with real truths, and ties them all together into these grand schemes that are designed to play on the fears of his easily swayed fan base.

Half of the time I can't help but wonder if he's nothing more than a puppet paid to discredit anyone who questions the behind the scenes international political racket.


lol first he didnt have any facts, now the facts are out of context. easily swayed?


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Re: Alex Jones suspended from YouTube. [Re: Doc_T]
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Doc_T said:
But it's not censorship. You can stand on a street corner and say anything you like. You can't do it on my front porch without my permission. The Intertubez is free- YouTube is private property.


I don't know about all that. You stand on certain street corners and say certain things, they will censor your ass in a heartbeat.
Free speech isn't free anymore.

It should read: You can stand on a street corner and say anything you like, within limits


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