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Re: I'm convinced [Re: whattheheck]
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The only people who think the market is great are the people who just started buying (see: ME).

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Re: I'm convinced [Re: Redstorm]
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No no, but don't you see, the market is going up and Obama met with the other world leaders, & Cramer says things are getting better.

:rolleyes:


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Re: I'm convinced [Re: whattheheck]
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How Cramer has a job is so far beyond me I can even begin to understand it.

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Re: I'm convinced [Re: Redstorm]
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Even though I know Cramer is probably a cold blooded man, I still have respect for what he does.

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Re: I'm convinced [Re: NoAgenda]
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Propaganda?


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Re: I'm convinced [Re: whattheheck]
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Sometimes lol but I respect the side that gets people interested in the companies and brands they use. makes more invested and aware of how things work, more than  endless consumer holes.


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Jim Cramer (aside) [Re: Redstorm]
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Redstorm said:
How Cramer has a job is so far beyond me I can even begin to understand it.



How do you figure?  He is over the top, but also entertaining and full of knowledge.
Many media personalities tend only to embody the former two attributes...

I'm just going to Copy & Paste a reply I made to a member on Demonoid who made the comment:
"it's 'Stewart vs Cramer' then, and it was a complete 110% victory for the lefty, and hopefully 10 years in prison for stock manipulation for Captain Capitalism.  Cramer is a disgusting crook standing up for an entire industry full of crooks."

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Jim Cramer is getting roasted for the misplaced bullishness of the CNBC network as a whole - when given the venue (a comedy show) is to be expected. However, it should be noted that Cramer as an individual is one of the few commentators out there that does not parrot advice blindly, and often changes his stance in the face of changing ecomonic fundamentals. He is one of the most honest and forthright people working in finance-related media and frankly, does not deserve such harsh criticism. Though when someone has such a high profile, such criticism is something that often cannot be avoided.

In response to padildo's comment above... You should realize that Cramer received just as much negative reaction when he went on the Today show on October 6th 2008, well before the market realized the vast majority of its substantial losses, and advised people that if they are going to need their money in the next five years, they had better pull it out of the stock market right away. He went on to advise on his own show, even for those who don't need their money, that they should sell at least 20% off their holdings in the face of the upcoming downturn. If you were listening to this advice, you could have sidestepped a nearly 40% slide in the S&P 500.

I'm not going to say that Cramer doesn't make mistakes, but who doesn't? At least he owns up to the mistakes he does make, which speaks volumes for his integrity. But if you don't follow his work and only listen to some clips that were sliced and diced on a 30 minute comedy show, of course you aren't going to see that Cramer really does do good work for the [small but dedicated] investor out there who doesn't work on Wall Street. The clips Stewart chose to show when attacking Jim, were from a segment entitled "Wall Street Confidential" on TheStreet.com's website. It is a segment designed to inform the average investor precisely OF all the tricks and shady dealings that are transpiring behind closed doors. He wants people to understand these traps, so that they won't walk into them themselves! Otherwise, why would he even be talking about it?

Unfortunately he doesn't have the same ability to speak so openly on the CNBC network that he does on his own website; but at least he is spending his time trying to enlighten people like me, who have invested money hard-earned from our own businesses, about the intricate, dark and often confusing ways in which the capital markets function. Many of the things I have learned from Jim have resulted in my calling and writing to my own representatives and federal officials in efforts to make the system more transparent and fair for the average investor. If it weren't for Jim, I probably wouldn't be nearly as aware of the faults in our system as I am now.

So thank you Jim! You are doing great work for people who take the time to educate themselves from a myriad of sources, and supplement that education with your own teachings. For the rest of the people who don't take the time to really listen to what you are saying and instead jump on a bandwagon of misplaced negativity, don't let it phase you. Your conscience is clear.



/end off topic rant


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Re: I'm convinced [Re: whattheheck]
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What we're looking at here is the historical decline of this nation as the most powerful country on earth. The Romans and Mongols had their day, and we've had ours. The Chinese are emerging as the global leaders now, and additionally they have an enormous chunk of our money. Our reign lasted less than a century, we've been #1 since shortly after WWI and we solidified our rule with the economic demise of Europe after WWII. Its over now. I think Americans will have a hard time accepting that they do not live in the "greatest country on earth" (they never did, but at lease we were the most powerful). Shit's getting serious I think.


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Re: I'm convinced [Re: Lancaster]
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Yes it is. And China is as screwed as anyone. Rising unemployment, a ton of our debt on their back, not a lot of close friends in the world, and fewer by the second as their ability to produce/purchase declines.

They do have a lot of men for war though, but that's another story.


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Re: Jim Cramer (aside) [Re: geokills]
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geokills said:
I'm not going to say that Cramer doesn't make mistakes, but who doesn't?



Just saw this today: Jim Cramer's 2009 Dow Jones Predictions vs. Actual

I see what you are saying about him doing good work to educate people. But his continued "mistakes" are suspicious, especially given his history of pumping stocks.


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Re: Jim Cramer (aside) [Re: cuddlebear]
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He's just another millionaire propagandist.


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Re: Jim Cramer (aside) [Re: whattheheck]
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HE'S NUTS!  THEY'RE NUTS!  THEY KNOW NOTHING!


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Re: Jim Cramer (aside) [Re: Silversoul]
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Cramer is so-so, but Erin Burnett can lie to me tell the apocalypse.



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Re: I'm convinced [Re: whattheheck]
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whattheheck said:
The American economy, and most likely government will fail within the next 2 years. Most likely sooner.

That is all.



Guess you were wrong.  :haha:

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Re: I'm convinced [Re: DieCommie]
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Haha after reading this whole thread, not looking at the timestamps. I was like, ok this seems plausible. Then reading your commit and looking at the first post, :ilold: meh it could collapse any day. Just live and you have nothing to worry about.


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Re: I'm convinced [Re: DieCommie]
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DieCommie said:
whattheheck said:
The American economy, and most likely government will fail within the next 2 years. Most likely sooner.

That is all.



Guess you were wrong.  :haha:




What a shocker. :whoa:


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With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: I'm convinced [Re: unknown1123]
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unknown1123 said:
Haha after reading this whole thread, not looking at the timestamps. I was like, ok this seems plausible. Then reading your commit and looking at the first post, :ilold: meh it could collapse any day. Just live and you have nothing to worry about.



You Only Live Twice



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Re: I'm convinced [Re: DieCommie]
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Too big to fail man, actually thats my personal motto :gameover:


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Re: I'm convinced [Re: Silversoul]
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Silversoul said:
The economy is already showing signs of improvement, and the people have more confidence in the government than they've had in a long time.  I say we're out of this mess within 5 years at most.



Ahhh the wonderful stage of denial. don't worry soon will come acceptance and anger


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Re: I'm convinced [Re: Captain_Spaulding]
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