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Get Rich Quick!
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There are ways out there to Get Rich Quick. However, you have to find them out for yourself, because nobody is going to tell you. Then you have to google and research to explore the possibilities and then you have to make a startegy and work at it.

There are heaps of people out there pushing "get rich quick" schemes, typically with next to no effort involved. HYIPs and MLMs come to mind, which are far more often than not based on pyramid schemes or ponzi schemes.

All these schemes tend to have much more work involved than suggested, or a worse market than suggested, or other risks not advertized - if there in fact is ANY way to win at all.

Folks will not tell you the TRUE ways to Get Rich Quick - you have to find that out yourself.

A friend of mine did HYIP's and MLM's. They only ended up costing him money. Then by a stroke of luck he found a dirt cheap supplier for a product in high demand on the internet. He started an internet business and before his competitors closed in on him he made something like $15.000 in two years with very little effort.

He did so though by screwing people over. By having a sell price that was 5-10x his cost. It wasn't ethical.

Moral of the story: YOU have to find your own Get Rich Quick scheme. Do Your Own Research. Deeply mistrust offers to Get Rich Quick.


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Edited by Asante (03/09/09 09:15 AM)

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Re: Get Rich Quick! [Re: Asante]
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Good advice! :thumbup:

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Re: Get Rich Quick! [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
He did so though by screwing people over. By having a sell price that was 5-10x his cost. It wasn't ethical.




How is it unethical to sell something for 5 - 10 times what you paid for it?


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Re: Get Rich Quick! [Re: automan]
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How is it unethical to sell something for 5 - 10 times what you paid for it?



According to my personal code of ethics its unethical to take advantage of peoples gullibility with such huge markups.

To me, if you bought it for $5, selling for $10 is the norm. I can even see it sold for $15 but that for me is the limit. Selling for $50 is outrageous to me.

I don't mean an eBay sell but actually basing a business on, basically, ripping people off with a 5-10x markup.

I know capitalism glorifies fucking people over like that, but then again I dont glorify capitalism.

We all know the example of the seamstress with a family to feed who gets paid 2 friggin cents in some Asian sweatshop to make a $100 designer shirt. The sweatshop owner often is an asshole, but there is pressure on him to pay as little as possible to be competitive. Producer AND ultimate consumer are screwed over by middlemen in suits who do nothing but ship & distribute, but charge phenomenal markups to do that.

If you're a middle man, repackaging and distributing other peoples wares, its unethical to pull a 10x markup on the goods.


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Edited by Asante (03/09/09 10:27 AM)

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Re: Get Rich Quick! [Re: Asante]
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I don't understand that view point at all. Does it only apply to middlemen or all business? For instance... if I can buy a guitar for $1000 and sell it for $2000, that is ethical. If I can build that guitar for $150 and sell it for $2000, is that unethical? Does having the technical skill to manufacture something yourself exempt you from your ethical guidelines or should I be forced by ethics to sell the guitar I build at a cost of $150 for $300?


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Re: Get Rich Quick! [Re: automan]
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I don't view that as unethical. I am against capitalism, as in I think it's hugely flawed, but I don't favor the other systems any higher. I'd prefer capitalism over them, but I've never personally experienced anything else to say, always have lived in the U.S. and never really been anywhere outside.

With that said, I mean, supply and demand is how it works. I don't know what the product is, but your friend found an opportunity and took it. I can see doing something morally unethical, for instance my friend wanted to make a device that tracked children around :rofl2: so parents could 'find them' wherever they were. Ignoring the ludicrousness of the whole idea, I didn't want anything to do with that. That's a huge invasion of privacy and the complete opposite direction to go.

If you can buy x online for 60$, and your friend found x locally for 5$ and decided to sell it for 55$ online making a 50$ profit then congrats to him. I'd say he'd be insane for selling it for 20 or 30$, that's just wasted profits.

I can understand your point of view if it's something like water, a necessity, or if it brings love and bonding like psychedelics can, but if it's just a luxury, fuck em. Milk em for what they're willing to pay.

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Re: Get Rich Quick! [Re: Asante]
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Sell drugs. :yesnod:

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Re: Get Rich Quick! [Re: Asante]
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I'm sick of "get rich quick" schemes.  This time I'm REALLY going to get rich.  And quick!
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Re: Get Rich Quick! [Re: Learyfan]
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well, I am a fan of, if you want to buy it at X price, and i want to sell it at X price, regardless of the fact my cost is 1/100th of X, its moral as long as we both agree on the terms.

call it capitalism if you want, but i highly disagree with any moral implications. unless it is a necessity such as food or shelter, and there is a monopolized control over these true needs of life.

also lets remember that every one of you buying weed at market price is paying 100X + over production cost. so is it immoral for you to buy weed, or get high?


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Re: Get Rich Quick! [Re: Learyfan]
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If he made $15,000 in two years, he didn't make much. But that is typical, most people who go into business go broke or don't make much. I don't see how the markup can be unethical. What has that to do with it? There is labor plus know how. He went to a lot of trouble to find the merchandise, to find a market for it and sell it. You have to promote it and that costs money too. If you don't want to buy the product, don't buy it. Don't go around whining that the seller is unethical for trying to make a profit.

A lot of products would not even be available if there wasn't a good profit to be made. In particular, new products which are risky. Why take the risk if the reward is that you double your money. And then after you've done all the hard work, someone comes in, copies your plan and sells it for less. If there were very little profit motive, you would not see the wide variety of products on shelves and available to be ordered that you enjoy now.


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Re: Get Rich Quick! [Re: Asante]
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I got screwed by an MLM.  I wasted a year of my life and a shitload of money on that shit.  Never again.


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Re: Get Rich Quick! [Re: Stonehenge]
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If he made $15,000 in two years, he didn't make much.


You misunderstand. It wasnt his job, he devoted maybe an hour or sometimes two a week on it and still got 15 grand out of it. Thats $100 an hour for repackaging stuff in his home, at the time he wanted to, with the comfort of a joint on hand.

As a job it would suck, but for a lil thing on the side its dasmn nice!


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Re: Get Rich Quick! [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan, if the people who engaged in the transaction with your friend were willing to pay the price - then I feel like it's a 'no harm, no foul' sitaution.

But :shrug: - we're all entitled to our own beliefs.


I agree with your OP though, I've tried a bunch of garbage get rich schemes and they dont work! :mad2:

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Re: Get Rich Quick! [Re: Asante]
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i have an idea that im going to look into.  not sure if it's legal...im pretty sure it's not though.  haha.


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Re: Get Rich Quick! [Re: LayYouIn]
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Care to share?

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Re: Get Rich Quick! [Re: krypto2000]
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ill pass.


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Re: Get Rich Quick! [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan, that's nice but not spectacular. I'm not knocking it, not at all. Grow a few plants and you'll do at least that much plus have a stash. "but this was legal" you are going to say. Ok, cool. People make a shitload of money in the stock market legally too. None of that is bad but I get tired of people saying it's immoral if you make more money than they are making. Bill gates makes probably $100k an hour churning out crap products. That is immoral. But that's another subject altogether. As long as you aren't hurting anyone, it's moral.


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“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.” (attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville political philosopher Circa 1835)

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Re: Get Rich Quick! [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said:
Bill gates makes probably $100k an hour churning out crap products. That is immoral.


Thats not immoral. People know the computers are shite, they buy em anyway. If im selling shit on a stick, people know its shitty but if they are willing to buy it then its not immoral to sell them shit on a stick.


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Re: Get Rich Quick! [Re: LayYouIn]
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isn't morality a opinionated subject?


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Re: Get Rich Quick! [Re: LayYouIn]
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"    Quote:
    Stonehenge said:
    Bill gates makes probably $100k an hour churning out crap products. That is immoral.



Thats not immoral. People know the computers are shite, they buy em anyway. If im selling shit on a stick, people know its shitty but if they are willing to buy it then its not immoral to sell them shit on a stick."

It's immoral when he has a monopoly which he almost does. Most of his success was due to making deals with manufacturors to include his crapware on their machines. When it was widespread enough, software manufacturors had no choice but to make their stuff compatible with windoz. Linux got pushed to the side. M$ bought out a lot of companies with innovative products just so they could bury the innovations because they thought they would make more money with less competition. Just one of the dirty sides of capitalism. The consumer gets left with shit on a stick and few choices. That is immoral, IMO.


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