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monotub/no polyfill, RR?
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I was just reading a post about monotub FAE ideas etc. I noticed RR that you mentioned taking the polyfill out, i did this originally just by my own accord.....thinking well since its fully colonized, and with FAE i shouldnt have any contam problems and considering the amount of myc it should get decent airflow. But i saw many leave the polyfil so i opted to leave it. After reading that post though i want to remove my polyfill. But a question wasnt addressed, will this make a dramatic decrease in RH? i mean when i put my hydro/therm in there it read 99% so im sure i can afford to take a little drop. Plus i have a cool mist that keeps the area at around 60%. Should this be ok? anyone?


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Re: monotub/no polyfill, RR? [Re: Curiosity_Breach]
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your humidity should be fine. I always used the polyfill for the purpose of keeping out gnats or any other type of fungus loving bug that WILL find it's way in given an opening.

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Re: monotub/no polyfill, RR? [Re: azurescens]
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If the humidity drops too much, simply tape up part of the holes. I use lots of small holes, so there is constant air exchange without the wind that a large hole will have. I use 1/4" holes, but bear in mind that a 1" hole is 16 times the size of a 1/4" hole, so you'd have to adjust humidification potential to match.
RR


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Re: monotub/no polyfill, RR? [Re: RogerRabbit]
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Yeah the rh stays between 80-99% so i think im okay. I try to keep it 85 and higher which it does stay for the most part. sometimes it drops to like 81 or 80 for a couple hrs but not for long. so the holes without polyfill are working out ok. Heres the problem. The colonization went great, like 7-10 days. i have 2 tubs, one i had to flip the myc because i didnt have enough poo for a top layer and it seemed there was too much wbs so i turned it upside down. The other tub did fine it looks great and i have about 4-5 inches of poo with about 3 quarts of wbs spawned to it. I brought this tub out for fruiting like 3-4 days ago and see no real change. The other tub has been out for a couple of weeks! and nothing..... i just dont get it. Temps 68 at absolute lowest and 76 at absolute highest. Mostly temps sit right at 70-74. humidty is almost always 85-99% and theres 4 large holes for FAE. they get a days worth of indirect sunlight every day. My cakes fruited amazingly well in the same conditions, yet im looking at these tubs scratching my head. any ideas? thx for your time.

p.s. here are some pics. btw the broken one is the one i had to flip, and the dark one is a dime for comparison on hole size.








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Edited by Curiosity_Breach (12/21/07 07:15 PM)

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Re: monotub/no polyfill, RR? [Re: Curiosity_Breach]
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all i can think of is that maybe your sub is to dry.

and did a beaver cut those holes out?

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Re: monotub/no polyfill, RR? [Re: blood4blood]
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lmfao yeah a beaver did :p nah a knife, that shit flexes so its a pain to keep straigh. i was thinking sub was dry too so im misting a few times a day now making sure its all nice and moist. wish me luck.


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Re: monotub/no polyfill, RR? [Re: Curiosity_Breach]
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*update*

i just went in a felt my substrate. It seemed kinda dry but the humidity was 90%. Doesnt the humidty help with the substrate moisture or does this just allow it to draw from the air as its producing fruits? i sprayed the shit out of the myc/sub and let it get nice and soaked, it should absorb the water if its "thristy", anyone have an answer to the humidity question?


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Re: monotub/no polyfill, RR? [Re: Curiosity_Breach]
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Humidity does not add to substrate moisture, even at 100%. A higher humidity will simply slow down evaporation from the substrate.
RR


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Re: monotub/no polyfill, RR? [Re: RogerRabbit]
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k thats what i kinda figured thx bro.


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Re: monotub/no polyfill, RR? [Re: Curiosity_Breach]
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I agree with RR 100% as I bought his video

Q: What's the best way to give monotubs air circulation colonizing and fruiting
A: Drill up to 100-200 holes or more depending on how big the monotub is....for colonizing use micropore tape...it'll help get FAE with out letting in airborne contaminants when colonizing...NO POLYFILL WHEN FRUITING....it will increase the chances of contamination...polyfills thick which holds air in instead of giving atleast 3-6 FAE's per hour.....Take off the tape during fruiting and have atleast 3-6 FAE's per hour and you should be fine. Mist the monotub, leave the lid ajar, fan it.

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Re: monotub/no polyfill, RR? [Re: dumbfounded1600]
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The reason why the tub is so dry is because you followed RR's advice, quit fucking trying to make something harder then it is.
The tek suggest polyfil for a reason, don't NOT use polyfil.
It filters air and allows humidity to stay within the tub.

not using polyfil in a monotub is bad advice and should never be taken.

Monotubs don't need fae, it's set it and forget it, follow the fucking tek for success, change shit and follow RR's advice and you have this shitty tub like you have.

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Re: monotub/no polyfill, RR? [Re: jeetered]
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YO JEETERED!!! YOUR BACK!!!


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Re: monotub/no polyfill, RR? [Re: jeetered]
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To clarify, during colonization, you do not want fresh air exchange, you want gas exchange. Since micropore tape was mentioned, I'm sure the message got across, but the terminology could confuse the proper process.

Jetered, you could try NOT being an asshole. Someone asked a question and was getting constructive feedback from members of the community, and you had to sour it up with your goddamn negativity.


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Re: monotub/no polyfill, RR? [Re: Curiosity_Breach]
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In all my bitter glory. Yes.

Sorry for being an ass.

I had to move back to texas so im an unhappy cultivator.

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Re: monotub/no polyfill, RR? [Re: jeetered]
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JEET!!! Welcome back man!


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Re: monotub/no polyfill, RR? [Re: kingboomer]
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ok thats kind of frustrating. Here is a fucking guru giving me advice and apparently another respected member contradicting it. soooo can i get some more opinions? i can throw the polyfill back in or i can keep it out but i kinda need to know why its such a big deal either way. seems to me there wouldnt be much FAE with polyfill stuffed in there? this is my first monotub so plz help me out here.....

by the way i did follow RR's tek with hundreds of holes on my cakes (first grow) and was successful. In fact i got better pinsets than most first timers ive seen. as far as the same thing for a monotub as a fruiting chamber, ive heard nothing of this until now. I think its kinda too late cuz i have my tubs all cut up the way they are. It seems to work for most people, also it seems like a lot of work to cover up 200 holes lol.


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Edited by Curiosity_Breach (12/22/07 01:38 PM)

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Re: monotub/no polyfill, RR? [Re: Curiosity_Breach]
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:rolleyes:

Curiosity_Breach said:
another respected member contradicting it.


:lol:  :rofl:  :rofl2:

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Re: monotub/no polyfill, RR? [Re: Mojo]
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:o yeah i dunno man, i went in there and the sub felt dry again so im just gonna leave the polyfill in and fan and mist. Basically what i did with the fruiting chamber. i think part of the reason it gets dry is, dry climate+cold winter so i have to run a heater which drys out even more. thanks guys for all your help.


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Re: monotub/no polyfill, RR? [Re: Mojo]
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Where is the contradiction?


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Re: monotub/no polyfill, RR? [Re: Nibin]
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you need to either stick with one method or another. mono's are meant to have the poly in them. if your going to take it out why dont you just make a terrerium out of it?

before jeet took his posts down he had tons of good looking mono's where the poly was left in it and you never mess with the thing except to apply a casing layer and harvest.

i think thats why your having so much trouble is because you keep opening that thing and messing with it.

im doing 2 mono's right now and when i went to open them last night to put a casing layer on them you could just tell it was very humid in there. the air just felt humid, and i dont ever mess with them and there are 4 2" holes stuffed with poly. i live in the north and they are incubating in a closet with a space heater.


oh yea, nice to see you back around jeet.

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