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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Chimps kick humans ass!
    #7714247 - 12/04/07 08:05 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/itn/20071204/twl-chimps-make-monkeys-out-of-humans-41f21e0_1.html

Chimpanzees have come out tops in a human versus monkey battle-of-the-brains in Japan.

Researchers pitted young chimps against human adults in two tests of short-term memory, and overall, the chimps won.

The results challenge the belief that humans are superior to chimpanzees in all cognitive functions, said researcher Tetsuro Matsuzawa of Kyoto University.

"No one can imagine that chimpanzees - young chimpanzees at the age of five - have a better performance in a memory task than humans," he said.

Mr Matsuzawa, a pioneer in studying the mental abilities of chimps, said even he was surprised.

Results of the memory testing showed that while the chimps were no more accurate than humans, they were faster.

One test included three five-year-old chimps who'd been taught the order of Arabic numerals one through nine, and a dozen human volunteers.

They saw nine numbers displayed on a computer screen. When they touched the first number, the other eight turned into white squares. The test was to touch all these squares in the order of the numbers that used to be there.

Even after six months of training, the students still couldn't keep up with their chimpanzee competitors.


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Re: Chimps kick humans ass! [Re: Ego Death]
    #7714255 - 12/04/07 08:09 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Cool. From the thread title I pictured a bunch of chimps physically beating the shit out of some guy. :lol:


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Re: Chimps kick humans ass! [Re: Middleman]
    #7714408 - 12/04/07 09:04 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I wonder if it has to do with the function of memorization and numbers. It's easier when you're identifying shapes rather than when you see the shape and identify it as an actual number. 6 is a circle with a tail, or it's the number 6. I dunno how to explain it, but I wonder if that would affect the way you memorize things?


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Re: Chimps kick humans ass! [Re: Middleman]
    #7714427 - 12/04/07 09:12 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Middleman said:
Cool. From the thread title I pictured a bunch of chimps physically beating the shit out of some guy. :lol:




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Re: Chimps kick humans ass! [Re: Maverick]
    #7714428 - 12/04/07 09:12 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Without seeing a formal study, it seems likely that the humans probably thought about, and contemplated their responses


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Re: Chimps kick humans ass! [Re: badchad]
    #7714432 - 12/04/07 09:14 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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badchad said:
Without seeing a formal study, it seems likely that the humans probably thought about, and contemplated their responses




Yeah that's exactly what I was getting at. For us 6 is more than just a circle with a tail.


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Re: Chimps kick humans ass! [Re: Maverick]
    #7714532 - 12/04/07 09:47 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

this is great news but honestly speaking i expected a video of a chimp kicking a guys ass.


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Re: Chimps kick humans ass! [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7714570 - 12/04/07 09:57 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I thought this was a rare, not often sought, OTD success story.


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Re: Chimps kick humans ass! [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7714741 - 12/04/07 10:39 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Suppress you expectation for the now is a realization.


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