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Marine Corps Bans Tattoo Sleeves
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Sure, send them to their fucking deaths, but don't let them get tattooed. :rolleyes:

Marine Tattoo Changes

Marines will soon be barred from getting large tattoos on their lower arms and legs, according to a new policy announced Tuesday.

While Marines have long been prohibited from having racist or sexist tattoos, or ink on their head or neck, new and existing leathernecks will now be banned from getting large “sleeve” tattoos as of April 1, according to MarAdmin 198/07.

The new policy also covers collections of smaller tattoos but stops short of prohibiting all tattoos, said Lt. Brian Donnelly, a spokesman for Manpower and Marine Reserves. “It only prohibits sleeve tattoos as defined, tattoos on the head or neck, and tattoos that are prejudicial to good order, discipline and morale or that bring discredit on the Marine Corps, as defined in the order.”

“Half-sleeve or quarter-sleeve tattoos that are visible to the eye when wearing standard PT gear [T-shirt and shorts] are likewise prohibited,” the MarAdmin said.

Sleeves are tattoos that cover a person’s arm or leg. Half-sleeves or quarter-sleeves are defined as a large tattoo or a collection of smaller ones “that covers, or almost covers, the entire portion of an arm or leg above or below the elbow or knee.”

Marines who already have sleeves will be grandfathered but must document their art by July 1. Commanders will have to include photographs of the skin art — along with dimensions, body location and the date of documentation — in personnel records.

The new policy is aimed at reining in tattooing and holding onto Corps standards, the top Marine officer said Tuesday.

“Recently, I have become concerned over the growing trend of tattooing in our Corps,” Commandant Gen. James Conway said in a separate message, AlMar 014/07. “I understand many tattoos are in good taste, and many represent pride for our Corps or remembrance of fallen comrades. However, I believe tattoos of an excessive nature do not represent our traditional values.”

Tattoos also have an impact on career progression for leathernecks, he said.

“Marines must understand that acquiring excessive tattoos may adversely affect both their retention and assignment to special duty,” Conway said.

Conway recently spoke out about the need to clarify the service’s tattoo policy, citing complaints that existing mandates are not being uniformly interpreted among commands.

“We’ve got to fix that. That’s unfair to the Marines,” Conway told Missouri Marines during a town hall meeting in early March. “It’s got to be one policy interpreted one way through the entire Marine Corps.”


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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

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Re: Marine Corps Bans Tattoo Sleeves [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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fags


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Re: Marine Corps Bans Tattoo Sleeves [Re: theuser]
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Thanks for that insightful commentary.


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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

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Re: Marine Corps Bans Tattoo Sleeves [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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OneMoreRobot3021 said:
Thanks for that insightful commentary.


:dj:


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Re: Marine Corps Bans Tattoo Sleeves [Re: theuser]
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The marine corps is going to photograph and document everyone's tattoo so if they suspect someone added something to their sleeve tattoo, they can prove it.


Now I wonder - is this a huge April Fool's joke?


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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

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Re: Marine Corps Bans Tattoo Sleeves [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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What a crock...just goes to show you that the Corps really does own you when you join.

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Re: Marine Corps Bans Tattoo Sleeves [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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thats absurd

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Re: Marine Corps Bans Tattoo Sleeves [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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couuuuuuuuld beeeeee..


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Re: Marine Corps Bans Tattoo Sleeves [Re: goobler]
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goobler said:
thats absurd


and counter-intuitive...why create unrest in your own military?


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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

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Re: Marine Corps Bans Tattoo Sleeves [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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Even when I was in the army 7 years ago, you still had to have all your tattoos okayed when you were being processed...

I dont see how this is any different...


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: Marine Corps Bans Tattoo Sleeves [Re: Madtowntripper]
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This is overkill. It's one thing to say no racist or sexist tattoos fine, whatever, but telling them where they can get them, and how big?

You can't send a man to his likely death and tell him what he can and can't do to his body. You can own his body in one sense, but let him have it in another...


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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

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Re: Marine Corps Bans Tattoo Sleeves [Re: OneMoreRobot3021] * 1
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They send kids out to die who cant even drink...

The military does all kinds of fucked up things...

People knew this when they went in, though. I have no sympathy for anyone who joins the military and then cries that their civil rights were violated...

Well, Duh. Its comes with the territory...


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: Marine Corps Bans Tattoo Sleeves [Re: Madtowntripper]
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It's just another sign of this administration's total lack of respect for the lackeys they send to do their bidding...first charging them for bloody/damaged uniforms, then Walter Reed, now this.


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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

-Erik Davis

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Re: Marine Corps Bans Tattoo Sleeves [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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We can't have our fighting Christian men of god doing these types of things.
We can't have gods army look like that, our solders of Christ must be "clean".


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Re: Marine Corps Bans Tattoo Sleeves [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
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Maybe the recruiters will leave me alone now.

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Re: Marine Corps Bans Tattoo Sleeves [Re: it stars saddam]
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Just tell them you're in that group "Gay-Muslim-Freethinkers for Satan". :yesnod:


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Re: Marine Corps Bans Tattoo Sleeves [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
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god damn you annoy me....

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Re: Marine Corps Bans Tattoo Sleeves [Re: goobler]
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No flaming in the pub goobler, you fucking yuppie.

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Re: Marine Corps Bans Tattoo Sleeves [Re: goobler]
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The marines can essentially dispatch you to your death, why wouldn't they be able to tell you whether or not you can have tattoos?

Another aside: Why shouldn't an employer have a say in how his/her workers present themselves? I'm not saying I agree with it, but I agree with the principle.


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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436

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Re: Marine Corps Bans Tattoo Sleeves [Re: it stars saddam]
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yuppie?


you fit that mold way better than I

oh wait, you kiss bois

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