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So.... What makes a person a hippy?
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im pretty curious about what people define as a hippy. i get called a hippy by quite a few of my friends basicall because i have long hair and  like to go to festivals and love jam music...

while in reality that is true, i am much more than than and am also, in honesty, a capitalist when it all comes down to it.

can these things exist in the same person, is a capitalist by your definition not a hippy?

i suppose that its all in the eye of the beholder, but i would really like to hear what yall think :smile:


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."

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Re: So.... What makes a person a hippy? [Re: ZippoZ]
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I get called a hippie just because I have long hair and smoke a ton of pot and like going to concerts. I consider myself a hippie-minded fellow who is not a hippie at all, if that makes any sense..

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Re: So.... What makes a person a hippy? [Re: Cakeface]
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all the hippies are late 50's+ now

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Re: So.... What makes a person a hippy? [Re: ZippoZ]
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There are lots of weekend hippies and the fact that they aren't always hippy doesn't make them any less hippy when in form. JMO of course. I mean, lots of folk came up in the 60s and 70s and were full blown hippies back then but then came to the realization that they had kids and needed to provide support and not everyone can do it in the arts, and so they had to turn to society. Many feel that they betrayed themselves and are too ashamed to ever turn back to there roots. There are others who dress up in the corporate costume during the week and then shed down to their true skins on the weekend.

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Re: So.... What makes a person a hippy? [Re: goobler]
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most hippie's are too idealistic for my liking but I mean I still respect that and I think that's necessary, there have to be really idealistic people in this world to offset the most pessimistic among us. but i mean, in reality, no way is everyone one day going to love one everyone else and we all live in happy la la peaceful dreamland. the art of life is navigating amongst everyone else, not loving them, or even liking them, just being yourself and living and forging strong, good relationships with those you DO love, and not stepping on anyone else's toes along the way. i'm more of a mind-your-own-beeswax kinda guy, I guess.

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Re: So.... What makes a person a hippy? [Re: goobler]
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I'm a lot of things.

I'm a sister
A friend
An ex-girlfriend
A grandaughter
A waitress
A hippie
A poet
A gypsy

I think a hippie is someone of any age who is a 'go-with-the-flow' kind of person.  Someone who is tolerant, peaceful and friendly.  Someone who enjoys lakes, trees, tye-dye, joints, hemp, jam bands, bare feet, incense and wildflowers.

A hippie can be all of these things or just one or two.  I guess there are all kinds of different hippies.  :shrug:


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Re: So.... What makes a person a hippy? [Re: Cakeface]
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there have to be really idealistic people in this world to offset the most pessimistic among us. but i mean, in reality, no way is everyone one day going to love one everyone else and we all live in happy la la peaceful dreamland. the art of life is navigating amongst everyone else, not loving them, or even liking them, just being yourself and living and forging strong, good relationships with those you DO love, and not stepping on anyone else's toes along the way.


wow that really hit home for me.

i love the responses so far, keep em comming!


personally i dont really like to define myself by any one label, it just seems to constricting i like to define myself htrough my actions words and thoghts, and through my interatcions. basically defining me through Me :smile:


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."

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Re: So.... What makes a person a hippy? [Re: ZippoZ]
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Well, if you wanna real definition then I guess you go where the hippies are and see how they define themselves:

http://www.hippy.com/php/article-9.html

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Re: So.... What makes a person a hippy? [Re: loopin20]
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Crazy. Sab. is a hippie.


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Re: So.... What makes a person a hippy? [Re: ZippoZ]
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It's a hard thing to pin down. There are lots of factors that people use to categorize hippies that don't always add up.

Can a hippie be a capitalist? Sure. Look at Ben & Jerry.

Can a hippie have short hair? I think I've seen pics of John Lennon with a buzz cut.

Can a hippie be pro-war? This one I'm not sure about. I personally was against the Iraq War, but I'm by no means a pacifist.

Can a hippie be a Republican? This one I'm also not sure about, but I'm sure there are some people who might fit the description(Sonny Bono, perhaps?).

Basically, I think what it comes down to is the vibe, which can't really be described, and must instead be experienced. I never really considered myself a hippie until I started hanging out with the hippies at my college, and realized that those were my people.


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Re: So.... What makes a person a hippy? [Re: Silversoul]
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by your question "can a republican be a hippy", i assume you believe that hippies are democrats? Just asking really. I think party affiliation would go against the original hippy stance against organized groups.

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Re: So.... What makes a person a hippy? [Re: CherryBom]
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I am a brother

Father

Husband

Boss

Asshole

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Re: So.... What makes a person a hippy? [Re: loopin20]
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loopin20 said:
by your question "can a republican be a hippy", i assume you believe that hippies are democrats?


No, but I think a hippie is more likely to be a democrat than a republican. I think the Green Party, Libertarian Party, or Peace and Freedom Party are more hippie-friendly than either of the mainstream parties. Also, there are some hippies who are anarchists or socialists or apolitical. But the point is that hippies often tend to be at least somewhat leftist in their politics. Oh, and I've never heard of this supposed hippy stance against organized groups. Hippies organize all the time.


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Re: So.... What makes a person a hippy? [Re: Silversoul]
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Silversoul said:
loopin20 said:
Oh, and I've never heard of this supposed hippy stance against organized groups. Hippies organize all the time.


"I like ideas about the breaking away or overthrowing of established order. I am interested in anything about revolt, disorder, chaos, especially activity that seems to have no meaning. It seems to me to be the road towards freedom - external freedom is a way to bring about internal freedom."
Jim Morrison

from "Hippies A to Z: "My view is that being a hippie is a matter of accepting a universal belief system that transcends the social, political, and moral norms of any established structure, be it a class, church, or government. Each of these powerful institutions has it’s own agenda for controlling, even enslaving people. Each has to defend itself when threatened by real or imagined enemies. So we see though history a parade of endless conflicts with country vs. country, religion vs. religion, class vs. class. After millennia of war and strife, in which uncounted millions have suffered, we have yet to rise above our petty differences.

The way of the hippie is antithetical to all repressive hierarchical power structures since these are adverse to the hippie goals of peace, love and freedom. This is why the “Establishment” feared and suppressed the hippie movement of the ’60s, as it was a revolution against the established order. It is also the reason why the hippies were unable to unite and overthrow the system since they refused to build their own power base. Hippies don’t impose their beliefs on others. Instead, hippies seek to change the world through reason and by living what they believe."

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Re: So.... What makes a person a hippy? [Re: loopin20]
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dreadlocks :grin:


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Re: So.... What makes a person a hippy? [Re: goobler]
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goobler said:
all the hippies are late 50's+ now


i'd agree with this - i think a "hippy" specifies somebody who was part of a certain cultural movement, based in time.

today there are certainly a lot of younger tour-rats, kind people, pranksters, and what not - but i wouldn't call them "hippies"


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Re: So.... What makes a person a hippy? [Re: Cepheus]
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aManEater said:
dreadlocks :grin:


I've seen hippies when I was a kid, none of them had dread locks


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Re: So.... What makes a person a hippy? [Re: Krishna]
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Krishna said:
goobler said:
all the hippies are late 50's+ now


i'd agree with this - i think a "hippy" specifies somebody who was part of a certain cultural movement, based in time.

today there are certainly a lot of younger tour-rats, kind people, pranksters, and what not - but i wouldn't call them "hippies"



yeah, i think tour-rat is a much more accurate term for the majority of these pseudo, wannabe hippies.


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Re: So.... What makes a person a hippy? [Re: Teragon]
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yer the biggest hippie i know.

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Re: So.... What makes a person a hippy? [Re: Cakeface]
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Hippy is a cultural identity, a social phenomenon that grew out of other movements that had their own values, aspirations, ritual, language and art.

From the beats just before and other, earlier movements of artists like the dadaists and surrealists, the hippie grew into a self awareness, possessing a reasonably cohesive set of concepts that persists and evolves.

The epitome of the self realization of the hippie culture peaked in the mid to late 60s, the period that most people are familiar with.

The culture (and cultural effect) persists, but evolves with the times. Clothes, concepts, political stances, environmental stances, music, art, slang, and drugs all change as the group rolls as an entity, with people aging and younger people from different backgrounds lending their influence.

If you get it, you're a hippy.
If you don't, you're not.


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PICARD: When I realized the paradox...
Q: Exactly. For that one fraction of a second, you were open to options you'd never considered. That's the exploration that awaits you...not mapping stars and studying nebulae... but charting the unknowable possibilities of existence.

To carry yourself forward and experience myriad things is delusion. That myriad things come forth and experience themselves is awakening. -Dogen Zenji

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