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    #5701366 - 06/01/06 08:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

why are they not filing charges, are cops that much better than real people?
if I had a fatal car wreck I'd be up on vehicular man slaughter charges

http://officer.com/article/article.jsp?siteSection=5&id=30745


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Re: Charges [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5701384 - 06/01/06 08:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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They also cannot speed more than 10 mph over the posted limit.




I just spit chocolate milk on my keyboard.

goodnite, and thanks for that.


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Re: Charges [Re: blink]
    #5701408 - 06/01/06 08:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'm reading a lot on that site, a friend pointed me there, i's a funny place


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Re: Charges [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5701475 - 06/01/06 09:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

While I agree that is messed up, but it is still a different situation if you or I did that. Wrong, double standard, hypocrisy, and all that maybe.

Even so, I am not always out for blood when a LE messes up or even when there just plainly wrong.

What is it about this case, or does it not matter as long it's a LE.


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Re: Charges [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5701518 - 06/01/06 09:19 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i was wondering the same thing last week when a police van w/ 6 officers in it blew a stop light and t-boned a car of school kids in brooklyn... it tossed two kids onto the pavement, and last i heard they were still in the hospital..

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Re: Charges [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5701529 - 06/01/06 09:20 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'm not out for blood in a situation like that either, but I do say that double
standards should be abolished, cops seem to have an immunity against procecution
the same sort of immunity that polititians have, sure cops are 'punished' but
what the PD says is punishment is my life long dream, to be suspended from
work for several months with pay until an investigation is done


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Re: Charges [Re: Yoschie99]
    #5701564 - 06/01/06 09:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Yoschie99 said:
i was wondering the same thing last week when a police van w/ 6 officers in it blew a stop light and t-boned a car of school kids in brooklyn... it tossed two kids onto the pavement, and last i heard they were still in the hospital..

yos-




:frown:

I lost a friend about 20 years ago in a similar accident, he was rear ended by
the cop and his car pushed over the abutment of a bridge, the cop was running
80+ and blew one light before striking him. his family sued the department
and subpoenaed the 911 calls as well as the dispatch recordings, the departments
official statement is that is was a tragic accident but unavoidable because
the officer was responding to a call, the recordings showed a different story

the family lost the lawsuit, the officer was suspended with pay and returned to
work after the investigation was completed.


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Re: Charges [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5701582 - 06/01/06 09:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Ahh ok sure I see where your coming from. There are those who are out for blood for anything. I did not know where you were coming from. I am not so hard on LE outside of corruption or abuse of powers.

I totally agree with politicians. Like the one in the news of late that the Feds raided and now his cronies are crying foul...fuckers all of them.

We have to get rid or changes the wording in the 'Speech & debate' clause....that is some piece of work.

I think all politicians should be put on trial when there term has ended and be held accountable for any wrong doing.


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Re: Charges [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5701595 - 06/01/06 09:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Yoschie99 said:
i was wondering the same thing last week when a police van w/ 6 officers in it blew a stop light and t-boned a car of school kids in brooklyn... it tossed two kids onto the pavement, and last i heard they were still in the hospital..

yos-




:frown:

I lost a friend about 20 years ago in a similar accident, he was rear ended by
the cop and his car pushed over the abutment of a bridge, the cop was running
80+ and blew one light before striking him. his family sued the department
and subpoenaed the 911 calls as well as the dispatch recordings, the departments
official statement is that is was a tragic accident but unavoidable because
the officer was responding to a call, the recordings showed a different story

the family lost the lawsuit, the officer was suspended with pay and returned to
work after the investigation was completed.





Well that is truly fucked up, and that changes everything, I now understand where you are coming from.


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Re: Charges [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5701611 - 06/01/06 09:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Snaggletooth said:
I am not so hard on LE outside of corruption or abuse of powers. 




see, thats the issue, they are seldom punished for crimes they can commit, most
cops are decent honest people overall and deserve a decent life and our praise
for a job well done, but the handful that isnt may suffer being fired just
to move on to another department, only a small few are ever jailed for crimes.

Politicians should serve two terms, one in office and one in prison

I think thats what you meant to say  :smirk:

link to the speech and debate clause please


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Re: Charges [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5701636 - 06/01/06 09:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Well it was Kennedy incident that I was referring to...

http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec6.html

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They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.





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Re: Charges [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5701651 - 06/01/06 09:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

ok... I've read it long ago, it's one of my bitches as well, several years ago
several senators and congresspersons bounced checks, some to the tune of $50k
we all know that that amount is a felony and that if any of us had done the same
thng, we'd be charged as such... felonies are aparently overloocked now.
of course tax money took care of the checks.


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Re: Charges [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5701681 - 06/01/06 09:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:

see, thats the issue, they are seldom punished for crimes they can commit, most
cops are decent honest people overall and deserve a decent life and our praise
for a job well done, but the handful that isnt may suffer being fired just
to move on to another department, only a small few are ever jailed for crimes.

Politicians should serve two terms, one in office and one in prison

I think thats what you meant to say  :smirk:

link to the speech and debate clause please






Your right, I am a little bias and maybe shouldn't be. But dont get me wrong, it's not all a free pass not by any means.

I said that about the Politicians, well was a reference to the Spartans and how they thought about those who were in power. Obscured comment yes. :tongue2:


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Re: Charges [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5701712 - 06/01/06 10:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I've always felt that since the politicians make the laws, cops are paid to
enforce the laws, they obviously know what the laws are so in breaking them
they should be recieving a much stiffer peanalty.

I mentioned that to a cop once, he responded that since a cops job is so dangerous
that they shouldnt be held to that 'higher standard', a little research showed
that it's more dangerous to work a convienience store or drive a taxi, and that
police work is actualy one of the safest jobs out there


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Re: Charges [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5701722 - 06/01/06 10:04 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

we should all have personal small cameras so to document the whole situation.

A friend asked a cop about that. The cop was very pissed off to know that a person is willing to stand against them......


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Re: Charges [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #5701737 - 06/01/06 10:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I usualy keep my camera and a tape recorder in the truck, I document the encounter
cops do it, usualy I tell them I'm recording the converstation and they always
pull the "not without my permission, it's illegal" shit, I ask if they have a
microphone and camera in their car, they usualy do, and I inform them they dont
have my permission to record me... they threaten to arrest me and all sorts of
shit and I'm game for the lawsuit that follows.

never once have I been more than a little hassled for it, and seldom get a ticket
after they learn you know the system as well as they do.


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