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Asante
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Dr Phil sucks
#5334470 - 02/24/06 10:10 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Just now I put on the TV and I saw Dr Phil's tater fill the whole screen while he said: "Drugs" That got my attention 
The topic ended with Dr Phil *forcing* a kid into rehab by coercing parental consent out of his parents, what he was on I'll never know.
Next topic, which I saw in full, was about DXM. Being an O.D.D mod I know a thing or two about the subject.
It was HORRIBLE. First of all he exclusively equated DXM with Coricidin. Coricidin however contains a second medication which is far more toxic than DXM. He then went drama queen to the parents of a girl by stating how their teenage daughter could meet a fate worse than death. ALL the horrors he attributed to DXM were effects of the "other" drug in CCC. Then he showed a box of Coricidin as being the drug in some flashy clip.
Every user shuns Coricidin like the plague because of additional toxicity, but Mr Pseudology walks in and equates DXM = CCC Kids watching his show could DIE because they now think the toxic CCC is the desired drug.
He then starts working the teenage girl by coercing answers from her using audience & common sense pressure. Please note: anyone who pays attention knows she's not answering from the heart but rather feeds him what is socially desirable, and he then passes this snake oil off as his cure.
Then he says: "This girl has low self esteem because she uses drugs, and nobody who loves themselves would sink to such depths as to use drugs." Say what? But he continued. "Nobody who has healthy self esteem would engage in activities that can be dangerous."
Has this man studied houseplant psychology? He then defended the girl's mothers action of effecting a phone-tap on her daughter by saying: "We should respect our childrens privacy but when danger is involved it stops right there. Then anything goes."
What an incredibly incompetent psychologist. He is venting the socially acceptable, mingled with extreme prejudice and passes it off as psychology. He deliberately uses audience pressure and rethorical questioning to steer people into saying stuff which is *not* helpful and *not* their opinion, but which sound good for a TV audience who watch passively.
--misidentification of DXM in a very dangerous manner --horror stories based on twisted facts --antagonizing parents from their kids --coercing untrue answers because they sound good on TV --abuse of psychology against the client's best interest --blatant blending of opinion and untruths with fact
Dr Phil sucks.
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Re: Dr Phil sucks [Re: Asante]
#5334476 - 02/24/06 10:14 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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he certainly got you worked up
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Asante
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Re: Dr Phil sucks [Re: goobler]
#5334484 - 02/24/06 10:17 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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He recklessly endangered the lives of the more "experimental" fraction of his audience, bullies people around using teh psykology skillz, fans the flames of the War On Drugs and provides lousy entertainment 
What got me riled up was how he gets away with it. If only people thought independently...
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Re: Dr Phil sucks [Re: Asante]
#5334486 - 02/24/06 10:18 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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wow. WOW.
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Re: Dr Phil sucks [Re: Asante]
#5334494 - 02/24/06 10:20 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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WS...
You're just now realizing what an ass that guy is?
You're absolutely right on the money with everything you said, just 4 years late.
However, 10% or so of the things he does is admirable stuff. He does help some people greatly. Very few, though.
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Re: Dr Phil sucks [Re: TM]
#5334496 - 02/24/06 10:24 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
WS...
You're just now realizing what an ass that guy is?
I don't watch the guy, I was lured in by the promise of drugs 
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However, 10% or so of the things he does is admirable stuff. He does help some people greatly. Very few, though.
I believe that there is a God so even he has to have redeeming qualities.
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Re: Dr Phil sucks [Re: TM]
#5334508 - 02/24/06 10:29 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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He's a tool.....
I've got to agree with you though... there WILL be more kids who try CCC now, and undoubtedly more problems with kids ODing on things like acetaminophen, decongestants, and expectorants.
I've done clean extractions of DXM before and can see that it has its uses, but i don't think railroading a teenager into rehab over it is going to accomplish much. DXM, IMO, has to work itself through you... IOW, you try it, either like it or you won't, and if you do you'll eventually realize it isn't the holy grail or something to binge on constantly and quit. Forcing someone to accept a viewpoint because it's the cultural norm will ultimately backfire.
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Re: Dr Phil sucks [Re: Asante]
#5334513 - 02/24/06 10:31 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah he's a piece of shit.
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Re: Dr Phil sucks [Re: Asante]
#5334523 - 02/24/06 10:36 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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what a douche. WS, you should write him a letter.
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Re: Dr Phil sucks [Re: Asante]
#5334550 - 02/24/06 10:51 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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He's a total douche.
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Re: Dr Phil sucks [Re: Asante]
#5334557 - 02/24/06 10:53 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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My grandmother tried to make me sit through that bs show before. It was annoying as hell and makes me pissed that she watches it.
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Re: Dr Phil sucks [Re: eris]
#5334564 - 02/24/06 10:55 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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That fat fuck should try his own weight loss program.
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Re: Dr Phil sucks [Re: eris]
#5334592 - 02/24/06 11:06 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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People that watch shows like Dr. Phil and buy into the BS just want to be told what to think, because they are too apathetic to educate themselves and form their own thoughts and opinions. People need to realize that television is entertainment geared toward the lowest common denominator and facts are few and far between.
I, like most people here, do drugs to alleviate boredom and in spiritual practices to experiment with my own consciousness. Still not entirely sure why that's illegal. It has nothing to do with self-esteem.
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Re: Dr Phil sucks [Re: Asante]
#5334604 - 02/24/06 11:12 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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"Dr. Phil" is not a REAL doctor!! He got a bullshit diploma-mill degree. He did not graduate from an accredited university.
He is a bullshit scam artist, just like the dumb fuck who wrote "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus" or whatever the hell he wrote. He has a mail-order degree as well.
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Dr. Phil is also an Oprah stooge. Now that's bad!! I despise Oprah. I think she's the antichrist, but that's just me.
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Good to see we're all smart enough here to see through his bullshit. Anyone with a spark of intelligence can watch one episode with Dr. Phil and see he obviously has no clue what he is doing, even if you aren't educated on the topic.
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Re: Dr Phil sucks [Re: ColdCash]
#5334819 - 02/24/06 12:49 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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it seems in general dxm gets alot of shit because of ccc's. all the articles and whatnot relating to dxm never expose the other ingredients that in the end, did them over...not the dxm. there have been a few deaths due to dxm, but its not that harmful when used in moderation.
and for the record. dr.phil needs to die.
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Re: Dr Phil sucks [Re: Asante]
#5335641 - 02/24/06 05:48 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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If it weren't for the respect-demanding mustache, Dr. "Pheel" would be a nobody.
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eris said: My grandmother tried to make me sit through that bs show before. It was annoying as hell and makes me pissed that she watches it.
Dr. Phil turns grandmothers on.
It's perplexing 
All you need is a mustache and a few hundred people that agree with everything you say to be a psychologist, apparently.
Fucking tv is sick, how does this shit pass off as therapy or psychology?
Now that I think about Dr. Phil is probably going to be responsible for a death by putting it into people's heads that you get high off triple Cs. He should at least research the drug and tell the truth about it if he's going to demonize it, so little kids watching the telly can go out and buy the real deal and not get dead.
south park even had the sense not to use real product names.
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Re: Dr Phil sucks [Re: leery11]
#5335716 - 02/24/06 06:30 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I saw an episode of Dr. Phil once, and it was about some kid who molested his sister. The kid clearly had mental problems; he was a pathological liar & had no sense of right and wrong. Yet Dr. Phil riled this kids' parents up so damn bad that I actually had the chance to record the dad saying (to son about dr. phil): "You'd, you'd better talk to him. You're dead to us now." WTF? What kind of dad would say to his son on television?? I felt like it was something my mom would have dragged me to do. Ugh, I wanna punch that fat moron right in the kisser. BAM, straight to the moon.
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Re: Dr Phil sucks [Re: lukeboots]
#5335785 - 02/24/06 07:03 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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men are stupid and women are smart
dam you dr phil!
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Re: Dr Phil sucks [Re: Asante]
#5336761 - 02/25/06 01:00 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hey, Wiccan. I know you are a smart dude so you must also know that Dr. Phil is on the air for a reason. He has a point and it's objectified with phony logic, sure, but you have to admit that he is talking about CCC for a reason. People are dumbasses to be using that stuff in the first place. People in general, who don't know shit about drugs. Most of them really have no reasoning.. they just want to get fucked up. If this kid had half a brain and cared about his pov, he would defend himself somehow. I would love to go on that show and debate with Dr. Phil. He's arrogant and prude and would obviously 'win' in the eyes of the audience, but atleast I could have a stance and stand up for common sense. That kid was probably thinking, "Oh well, I'm fucked up anyways. I might as well go along with this even though I hate it." I hate the spectacle too, but what is more phony: the stupidity of the kid of the stupidity of Dr. Phil? I'd say they're equal and they deserve one another.
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Re: Dr Phil sucks [Re: Asante]
#5336796 - 02/25/06 01:10 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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YES, DAMNIT.
DR PHIL SUCKS ASS.
LOCK PLZ.
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Quote:
but what is more phony: the stupidity of the kid of the stupidity of Dr. Phil? I'd say they're equal and they deserve one another.
Kids are allowed to be stupid, they're kids for crissakes. Dr. Phil is supposedly an adult...
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Dr.Phil is not human.
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Re: Dr Phil sucks [Re: TYL3R]
#5336917 - 02/25/06 01:51 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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He sure isn't a shellfish.
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