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Re: How can this be true - geometry puzzle [Re: WhiskeyClone]
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thanks fot the good ratings my first rating I got was a 1 from some douche because of a typo


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Re: How can this be true - geometry puzzle [Re: WhiskeyClone]
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CyberChump said:
They're not straight. Print it out, hold the paper horizontally at eye level and sight down the line; you'll see they both bend. One outwardly, one inwardly.



supercollider said:
Nope, it's not just an illusion. The green triange slopes down a little steeper than the red one.
Green slope = 2/5 = .4
Red slope = 3/8 = .375

edit: I dunno how a zillion other people posted the answer before me without me seeing.


trendal said:
Dude you can't seriously expect to detect the difference in slopes on a computer screen when the difference is only 0.025 units.

If the slope of the red triangle is 0.375 and the slope of the dark green triangle is 0.4 the line made by the two triangles CAN NOT be straight.


What is your simple solution?




how many of you passed school?
who here had reportcards that said "unable to follow directions" ?
Were does it say anything on the puzzle about straight lines or concave/convex lines?
whats the question at the bottom of the picture?

even if the lines in the puzzle are curved, both triangles remain the the same
size in both sections, and it has no bearing on this puzzle, just because the
guy isnt the best with MS Paint, you've all gone past the question and picked
apart minor, insignifigant details

My simple solution, go back and look at the puzzle again, get past overanalyzing
the puzzle and seek the simple answer that slaps you in the face, the same
answer thats given a couple times in this thread.


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Re: How can this be true - geometry puzzle [Re: Prisoner#1]
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If you have such a "simple" solution then go ahead and post it.

Because I don't think you do, and am now officially calling BS on your "simple solution" :rolleyes:


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Re: How can this be true - geometry puzzle [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner, I hate to say this, but technically the concave/convex argument is correct.

Because the two triangles have different slopes, in the first figure the red triangle's slope of 3/8 transitions to the steeper slope of 2/5, making the combination of the two into a "line" that could be described as concave. The opposite is true in the second figure, and so the "line" that combines the two could be described as concave. Neither line is curved, but then the dictionary definitions of concave and convex don't require the surface to be curved either.

Granted, I do think it's silly if people are printing out shapes and holding straight edges against them...

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Re: How can this be true - geometry puzzle [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Also I'd prefer it if you back your argument up with some proof. Because I can back up mine with links (since I already gave a mathematical proof):

http://www.puzzle.dse.nl/harder/appearing_area_us.html
http://mathcentral.uregina.ca/QQ/database/QQ.09.99/matthews1.html
http://www.loisterms.com/trisolution.htm
http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/61087.html

That's just from a quick search on google.


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Re: How can this be true - geometry puzzle [Re: Prisoner#1]
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even if the lines in the puzzle are curved, both triangles remain the the same size in both sections, and it has no bearing on this puzzle, just because the guy isnt the best with MS Paint, you've all gone past the question and picked apart minor, insignifigant details

Can you read?

The two shapes are not the same shape. They aren't even triangles, due to the uneven upper line. It has absolutely nothing to do with the guy being messy in paint, and everything to do with the fact that the two triangles along the top of the shape have different slopes.


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Re: How can this be true - geometry puzzle [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Quote:
even if the lines in the puzzle are curved, both triangles remain the the same
size in both sections, and it has no bearing on this puzzle,


Please post this solution of yours.

There are no curved lines in this puzzle. Convex and cocave were inaccurate words to describe the bent line formed by the hypoteneuses of the red and blue triangles.

We have two completely different shapes that have the same area. The top one is NOT a triangle, and the bottom one is NOT a triangle with a little square missing. However, they appear to be these things at a glance, so we assume that they are the same shape except one has a chunk missing. We trick ourselves, because they both look like triangles.


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Re: How can this be true - geometry puzzle [Re: supercollider]
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supercollider said:
Nope, it's not just an illusion. The green triange slopes down a little steeper than the red one.
Green slope = 2/5 = .4
Red slope = 3/8 = .375

edit: I dunno how a zillion other people posted the answer before me without me seeing.


Ding! We have a winner!


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Re: How can this be true - geometry puzzle [Re: Psiledehysp]
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Convex and cocave were inaccurate words to describe the bent line formed by the hypoteneuses of the red and blue triangles.


The correct way to describe it would be that the 2 triangles (the inside ones... the big shape is a quadrilateral.) arent similar. The ratio of the lengths of the two sides of the larger isnt the same as that of the smaller (3/8 the 2/5 respectively) that means that the hypoteneuses (funny word) wouldnt be at the same angle... boring, i know, but im workin on becoming a math teacher  :tongue:
i totally didnt notice how many people had it right before. and u guys who think we're wrong, do the math  :wink:


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Re: How can this be true - geometry puzzle [Re: trendal]
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trendal said:
Also I'd prefer it if you back your argument up with some proof. Because I can back up mine with links (since I already gave a mathematical proof):

http://www.puzzle.dse.nl/harder/appearing_area_us.html
http://mathcentral.uregina.ca/QQ/database/QQ.09.99/matthews1.html
http://www.loisterms.com/trisolution.htm
http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/61087.html

That's just from a quick search on google.



then it's obvious that I'm wrong


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Re: How can this be true - geometry puzzle [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Hah, you're such a smartass, you're gonna have people looking for another answer to this thing for weeks.


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Re: How can this be true - geometry puzzle [Re: Jadian]
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/head explodes



ps - haha pris, you got owned tryin' to look smart


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Re: How can this be true - geometry puzzle [Re: lukeboots]
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damn... since when is being an idiot so bad?  :smirk:


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Re: How can this be true - geometry puzzle [Re: Prisoner#1]
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I'll take a funny idiot over a boring smart person any day :biggrin:


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Re: How can this be true - geometry puzzle [Re: Jadian]
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I said I suck at math...


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Re: How can this be true - geometry puzzle [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Okay, wear the hat of shame for 1 week and all will be forgiven. But first tell the class what your supposed "simple solution" was so that the other children can laugh at you.


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Re: How can this be true - geometry puzzle [Re: Revelation]
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Revelation said:


Okay, wear the hat of shame for 1 week and all will be forgiven.


PRIDE!


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But first tell the class what your supposed "simple solution" was so that the other children can laugh at you.


the same as many others.... google.com


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Re: How can this be true - geometry puzzle [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Go to jail; go directly to jail.


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