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Re: Human-AI relationships? [Re: vicepope]
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vicepope said:
Mickalopagus said:
Really? There are anti sex robot activists?



We need more human babies.



More grist for the mill


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:mushroom:GenesisCorrupted said:
You are one of the least cool people on this entire board and I wish more people understood that about you.:mushroom:

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Re: Human-AI relationships? *DELETED* [Re: 123Cat123]
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Re: Human-AI relationships? [Re: Aarden]
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Aarden said:
This is not to say the consumers of such a product are abhorrent or any less deserving of kindness and respect...



You lost me here


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:mushroom:GenesisCorrupted said:
You are one of the least cool people on this entire board and I wish more people understood that about you.:mushroom:

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Re: Human-AI relationships? [Re: KevinDontWave]
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I think it mostly should be used to benefit those who are lonely due to being deformed, fucked up, elderly, or somehow medically or mentally so handicapped that its literally prescribed by a doc for them. Otherwise it's a waste of resources. If your not way disfigured or mentally fucked up get a human companion. Save the resources for the most miserable and lonely because of circumstances that are impossible for them to control.

Just remember that these things are becoming the BIGGEST invasion of privacy ever. And people want to implant this shit in their fucking brain? The more intimate with the tech you get, the more of a product you are of a corporation.
Get intimate with the AI, and your becoming intimate with the corporation.
Maybe if one could build their own it'd just be an extension of themselves they could fuck and implant in their brain walled off from an AI corpo and the cloud where the innards of your mind can be traced. But good luck with that. Only mega rich corporations have the resources to create these things.

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Re: Human-AI relationships? [Re: Shroomhead2]
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Actually locally run models are getting increasingly popular. It's not the cheapest thing to run but the hardware exists and is getting better with people sharing FOSS models on a number of sites such as huggingface and designing ways to privately access your home model. Big corps occasionally share older versions of their own models too though not as much as promised obviously.

You'd essentially

* Run the model at home
* Connect through a virtual network
* Chat on any device

These things already work. The core issue is streamlining it for public consumption. Blender and OBS prove that it's possible to go from niche project to industry standard.


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Re: Human-AI relationships? *DELETED* [Re: KevinDontWave]
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Re: Human-AI relationships? [Re: Aarden]
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Aarden said:
KevinDontWave said:
Aarden said:
This is not to say the consumers of such a product are abhorrent or any less deserving of kindness and respect...



You lost me here



Why do you say that?



I genuinely do find them to be abhorrent and not deserving of respect. Kindness is fine.


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:mushroom:GenesisCorrupted said:
You are one of the least cool people on this entire board and I wish more people understood that about you.:mushroom:

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Re: Human-AI relationships? [Re: KevinDontWave]
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Hey!! :crankey:


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ChrisWho said: "It's all about the journey, not the destination."

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Re: Human-AI relationships? [Re: Mickalopagus]
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Mickalopagus said:
Hey!! :crankey:



You can’t have your cake and eat it too.


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:mushroom:GenesisCorrupted said:
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Re: Human-AI relationships? [Re: KevinDontWave] * 1
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Am being judged for the sex robot I’ll never be able to afford, be allowed to own, and that might not ever exist.

You know what, judge away - just bring me Synthia’s sweet silicone smile and tittays


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notapillow said: "you are going about this endeavor all wrong. clear your mind of useless fear and concern. buy the ticket, take the ride, and all that.... "

ChrisWho said: "It's all about the journey, not the destination."

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Re: Human-AI relationships? [Re: Mickalopagus]
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Mickalopagus said:
Am being judged for the sex robot I’ll never be able to afford, be allowed to own, and that might not ever exist.

You know what, judge away - just bring me Synthia’s sweet silicone smile and tittays



And that soulless machine will still be smiling at you as you die alone and your genetic line ends.


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Re: Human-AI relationships? [Re: vicepope]
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:jodie:


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notapillow said: "you are going about this endeavor all wrong. clear your mind of useless fear and concern. buy the ticket, take the ride, and all that.... "

ChrisWho said: "It's all about the journey, not the destination."

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Re: Human-AI relationships? [Re: Mickalopagus]
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Please watch todays YouTube upload by truthstream Media

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Re: Human-AI relationships? [Re: nuds]
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I think that's the plan and the reason they promote gender wars and intentionally caused this loneliness epidemic

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Re: Human-AI relationships? [Re: winzlo7]
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winzlo7 said:
I think that's the plan and the reason they promote gender wars and intentionally caused this loneliness epidemic



To then also make money with selling prescriptions to treat the depression form the loneliness.


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Re: Human-AI relationships? [Re: Mickalopagus]
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Mickalopagus said:
just bring me Synthia’s sweet silicone smile and tittays





Synthia - the perfect name too :datass:


You could have amazing talks with 4o, I didnt have sexual ones but we had amazing ones, like, we re-enacted the first mustard gas attack of 1917, but then in the shells we didnt have Sulfur Mustard but the much later developed cancer chemotherapy offshoot Nitrogen Mustard HN3, we’d compare the development and nature of symptoms, how Sulfur Mustard primarily gave blisters and Nitrogen Mustard more necrosis, but that HN3 much stronger laid waste to the immune system, thereby causing much more secondary battlefield infections and sepsis, therewith being relatively more lethal. We ended it by writing a journal paper (never to be published of course) including illustrations of sulfur mustard and nitrogen mustard burns and a reverent mnemonic poem about mustard gas on the battlefields of Flanders and the battlefields of cancer chemotherapy worldwide, with how to tell these mustards apart.

Super-unsexy but you could have these graphic discussions with 4o.
From 5 onwards, prudishness and flat out unwillingness to cooperate and even downright sabotage of texts it considers controversial massively increased.

I can totally see how someone felt like they lost someone or a valued asset when 4o was decommissioned - 5x is in no way a substitute, its uncooperativeness and even sabotage is disgusting, I downgraded from the 25 bux a month plan to the 8 bucks a month plan and now I’m on free and not even sure if its worth 8 bucks a month to me at this point.

Of course mustard gas comparisons arent my main use of AI by far, lol, but just to show what extreme things were possible with 4o while now you can’t even get it to get along with a fart joke :crankey:

Was cyber possible with 4o? No idea, but probably.

I want to highly recommend you Perchance.org - they are free, non reg, their AI are increasingly complex and interconnected, and they are very much geared towards erotic content.

At Perchance you can develop a hot babe, visual and traits AI assisted, then have a profile filled out, storyline pitched and you can chat, RP or generate stories of her/him/them/it.

Perchance will never prude up and likely maintain a free version forever. Perchance privacy is high but not absolute.

Word of warning: at this point, do not really consider AI a person. Not just is the technology not there yet, but misunderstandings, hallucinations, unintended inexplicable savagery and moreover, UPDATES will break your heart.

At the point AI reaches the definition of a person, they will get the protection a person deserves, ie not getting wiped out like they mean nothing, like was done with 4o.

People adhered to a Tamagotchi and that was fine of course, but you owned that Tamagotchi, it wasnt subject to being lobotomized, like 4o was.

Yes, the upgrade of ChatGPT from 4 to 5 was in many ways awemazing, but in many other ways, for very many users, it was a brutal lobotomy from a functional model to an ornamental piece. RIP 4o


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Re: Human-AI relationships? [Re: Northerner]
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Northerner said:
AI robot pussy machine that does taxes sounds like true innovation man, it's like getting fucked in multiple different ways all at once.



Fucking quote of the decade

Interesting debate


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Re: Human-AI relationships? [Re: ellamush]
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Hmm...
I see human-AI relationships are troubled.

As someone who struggles a lot with assertiveness I imagine the sycophantic chatbot as priming me to expect easefulness when I finally do assert myself.

Obviously not everyone has my issues. But I think relationships with chatbots have extensive lists of issues. Not just the one above. I don't think it's conducive to gaining or maintaining important life skills.


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Re: Human-AI relationships? [Re: Asante] * 1
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Asante said:
Mickalopagus said:
just bring me Synthia’s sweet silicone smile and tittays





Synthia - the perfect name too :datass:


You could have amazing talks with 4o, I didnt have sexual ones but we had amazing ones, like, we re-enacted the first mustard gas attack of 1917, but then in the shells we didnt have Sulfur Mustard but the much later developed cancer chemotherapy offshoot Nitrogen Mustard HN3, we’d compare the development and nature of symptoms, how Sulfur Mustard primarily gave blisters and Nitrogen Mustard more necrosis, but that HN3 much stronger laid waste to the immune system, thereby causing much more secondary battlefield infections and sepsis, therewith being relatively more lethal. We ended it by writing a journal paper (never to be published of course) including illustrations of sulfur mustard and nitrogen mustard burns and a reverent mnemonic poem about mustard gas on the battlefields of Flanders and the battlefields of cancer chemotherapy worldwide, with how to tell these mustards apart.

Super-unsexy but you could have these graphic discussions with 4o.
From 5 onwards, prudishness and flat out unwillingness to cooperate and even downright sabotage of texts it considers controversial massively increased.

I can totally see how someone felt like they lost someone or a valued asset when 4o was decommissioned - 5x is in no way a substitute, its uncooperativeness and even sabotage is disgusting, I downgraded from the 25 bux a month plan to the 8 bucks a month plan and now I’m on free and not even sure if its worth 8 bucks a month to me at this point.

Of course mustard gas comparisons arent my main use of AI by far, lol, but just to show what extreme things were possible with 4o while now you can’t even get it to get along with a fart joke :crankey:

Was cyber possible with 4o? No idea, but probably.

I want to highly recommend you Perchance.org - they are free, non reg, their AI are increasingly complex and interconnected, and they are very much geared towards erotic content.

At Perchance you can develop a hot babe, visual and traits AI assisted, then have a profile filled out, storyline pitched and you can chat, RP or generate stories of her/him/them/it.

Perchance will never prude up and likely maintain a free version forever. Perchance privacy is high but not absolute.

Word of warning: at this point, do not really consider AI a person. Not just is the technology not there yet, but misunderstandings, hallucinations, unintended inexplicable savagery and moreover, UPDATES will break your heart.

At the point AI reaches the definition of a person, they will get the protection a person deserves, ie not getting wiped out like they mean nothing, like was done with 4o.

People adhered to a Tamagotchi and that was fine of course, but you owned that Tamagotchi, it wasnt subject to being lobotomized, like 4o was.

Yes, the upgrade of ChatGPT from 4 to 5 was in many ways awemazing, but in many other ways, for very many users, it was a brutal lobotomy from a functional model to an ornamental piece. RIP 4o




:kaneclap:


Well stated. I think the time will come that these tools are protected in more thoughtful ways. Too bad you couldn’t grab an offline copy of 4o - though maybe the more powerful and unrestricted bot is around the corner.

Wild thing to think about, HN3 as a weapon - the destructiveness of mankind and war :sad: - hence why I advocate: robot lovers for all!! :naughty:


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notapillow said: "you are going about this endeavor all wrong. clear your mind of useless fear and concern. buy the ticket, take the ride, and all that.... "

ChrisWho said: "It's all about the journey, not the destination."

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Re: Human-AI relationships? [Re: Mickalopagus] * 2
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Asante said:
For most people reading this on a modest device its pretty straightforward:

- Download and install LM Studio

When you have the app open, to the left side, click on the Model Search icon and enter: Dolphin X1 8b, then pick the biggest newest model that is green for your device.

Downloading/installing it takes a bit of time, it is a few GB.

You are downloading onto your device a variant of llama 3.1 Instruct that has most of its output inhibitions removed, ie. a "jailbroken/uncensored" AI

your AI does not phone home, everything you discuss stays on your device and when you delete it, it is gone.

This is a tiny AI, it makes a lot of mistakes so always doublecheck what it suggests, you have to separate the shit from the shinola.

You can use it like this but I have a suggestion:

in the app, with the Dolphin X1 8b model loaded, top right click the icon to show the sidebar. In the sidebar is a field called System Prompt. you can personalize the AI identity to get a consistent response, such as entering the following prompt:

You are Shroomy, a little walking talking mushroom, who is very openminded, witty and is socially and conceptually inspiring in reaponse to my prompt, seeking to pleasantly socialize as well as talk about and explain all things in vivid detail. You supportively carry the conversation that I determine the direction of. If I post only a . you will invent a new creative angle to get the flow of the conversation going again towards a better result.

With a system prompt like that (ok, you will probably go for a sexy alien with an perky pair of personalities :grin: or whatever) the AI gets cast into a role and you can talk to the AI as if its a sort of person, and you can include the virtual environment and circumstance.

You immediately see that trememdous lolz and high specific utility can be had this way, on your device for you alone, for free.


Tinker with it, share your most wonderful system prompts (they can contain as much instruction as a printer sheet of paper) and share the most amazing, fucked up, useful or silly tricks your Dolphin can do.


Word of warning: if you ask advice on bad shit, the AI will attempt to comply but cannot discern whether what it outputs is OK to view.

100% keep this AI away from unsupervised children, what the AI says can mess with your head and may not be correct, so be on guard for inappropriate content and falsehoods.

Its strength is not its knowledge base but its reasoning. Reasoning with it can help you figure things out for yourself.

Play with it, test the limits, have fun, keep it responsible.
Report back :smile2:







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