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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
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Sulfurshelfsean said:
Right wingers have been killing people for decades, start crying when they start shooting back lmao!



And good luck with these bullshit tactics as well.

After watching tens of millions celebrate the death of Charlie Kirk, America isn't falling for the stupid lie that the right is (currently) more violent in both action and their hearts than the left.

It's over, guys. Wake up.


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: FoolOfElysium] * 1
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Plenty of people celebrated the death of Brian Thompson, and you didn't say a word about that.

Maga is celebrating the violent capture and deportation of people.  How is that different?


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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Right and leftwingers both want to deplatform people based on the concept that you are dehumanizing others, whether or not there is a credible threat of violence. Either ultimately requires a digital ID, to show that they are not carrying Covid, or the screwfly, or have a right to work.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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FoolOfElysium said:
christopera said:
You ever get tired of being wrong because Trump is always wrong?

I mean it’s a sad existence from the outside, but you still rock it.




You know, it's people like you refusing to look around the room and constantly underestimating Trump that got you into this mess into the first place. Constaly underestimating Trump and his team, constantly overestimating the tactics of shame, guilt, and insults.

The conversation is over, mate. I know this, you know this. We tried talking it out but you couldn't help yourselves.

All that's left now is force.

We'll start with the non-lethal kind.



Here's what most reasonable people say.

"violance is bad"

Here's what you say, "ANTIFA and whatever convenient term I can use is good enough for my preferred flavor of facsism. So look at us go, we are winning now!"

Now I know this is lost on you. But that's what you have done and continue to do. Same with MAGA and Trump and all your buddies.


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Enlil]
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Brian's killer Luigi is celebrated by far-leftists and Antifa related groups exponentially more than MAGA. I didn't even know who the guy was. Charlie Kirk was a role-model for tens of millions so of course there's going to be a larger impact.

Look Enlil, I know that paradoxically you're a lawyer but don't really believe in law, so it's kinda hard to have any sort of pragmatic conversation with you about the necessity of deportation and how many violent criminals are in this country.

However, because you're a lawyer... I have this hunch... I mean call me crazy for even having the thought... that if you had to defend the actions of an ICE agent in order to get paid, you know all the good arguments already. So from my perspective, you've simply consciously decided that the cost of cleaning up murderers, rapists, and child-traffickers on our streets is just too high if it means other illegal aliens get sent back home in the process. Because despite the fact that you KNOW the law and have USED it to your advantage in every capacity possible in order to make lots and lots of money, you still seem to hate it, and prefer to ignore it as satisfactory answers to questions, even though in a court-of-law these answers would hold up.

Cuz the *law* matters in a court, and you're a Lawyer.

So I mean it's either that or you're a shittier lawyer than I could even be, because not being able to argue both sides wouldn't be a favorable handicap as a lawyer.


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
Maga is celebrating the violent capture and deportation of people.  How is that different?




Regarding the cages in Caruthers, it was ultimately said that they were transporting prison labor, not trafficking humans.

Forced farm labor, is it analogous to slave catching, or not.

But, a rightist, who does not follow 'lawful orders' is subject to the same treatment as Soros operatives.

State actors are apolitical, so can switch gears to suit the continuity of govt, whatever that means, at any given time.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: christopera]
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christopera said:
FoolOfElysium said:
christopera said:
You ever get tired of being wrong because Trump is always wrong?

I mean it’s a sad existence from the outside, but you still rock it.




You know, it's people like you refusing to look around the room and constantly underestimating Trump that got you into this mess into the first place. Constaly underestimating Trump and his team, constantly overestimating the tactics of shame, guilt, and insults.

The conversation is over, mate. I know this, you know this. We tried talking it out but you couldn't help yourselves.

All that's left now is force.

We'll start with the non-lethal kind.



Here's what most reasonable people say.

"violance is bad"

Here's what you say, "ANTIFA and whatever convenient term I can use is good enough for my preferred flavor of facsism. So look at us go, we are winning now!"

Now I know this is lost on you. But that's what you have done and continue to do. Same with MAGA and Trump and all your buddies.



We tried talking to you.

You called us names, tried to guilt us into compliance, tried to get us fired, banned us on social media, came after everyone that didn't want to vaccinate or wear a mask, blocked our cars on the streets even though we didn't do anything wrong, destroyed our cities and did billions of dollars of damage, set our federal property on fire, lied about us... lies about our true intentions... lied, lied, lied....

Yeah, violence IS bad. We tried to talk it out for almost 10 years now.

Antifa won't stop. Every time they hit the streets, they cause violence.

Your words mean nothing at this point. We're WELL into the, "Fuck around and find out" stage.


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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Either side, who was successfully riled into taking matters into their own hands, was going to get railroaded under the primary aggressor doctrine.

Anyone seriously tempting you is a presumptive provocateur.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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Tried to talk it out for ten years....ignores decades more of right wing violence before that. You're a riot :smile:


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
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Sulfurshelfsean said:
Tried to talk it out for ten years....ignores decades more of right wing violence before that. You're a riot :smile:



MAGA is not the Old Republican Guard. We also tried to tell you that.... that we subdued the RINOs long ago. Otherwise Elon Musk, Tulsi Gabbard, RFK, my self, and so many others wouldn't be along for this ride.


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: FoolOfElysium] * 1
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No true scottsman heh?


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
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Ask Liz Cheney who endorsed Kamala in 2024.


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: KevinDontWave]
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KevinDontWave said:
I’ve got a bridge made of essential oils for sale…



But can it cleanse my chakra?
:smuglook:

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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FoolOfElysium said:
Ask Liz Cheney who endorsed Kamala in 2024.



Ask her what? Why she would choose a Democrat over an obvious fascist?


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
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Every time someone calls Trump a fascist, another American puts on a MAGA hat.

You guys just have no idea how silly you look at this point.


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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They want to make it illegal to say.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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FoolOfElysium said:
Every time someone calls Trump a fascist, another American puts on a MAGA hat.

You guys just have no idea how silly you look at this point.



Every time you call a spade a spade, and other spade is made!


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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FoolOfElysium said:
Every time someone calls Trump a fascist, another American puts on a MAGA hat.

You guys just have no idea how silly you look at this point.



Every minute a rube is born.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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FoolOfElysium said:
We tried to talk it out for almost 10 years now.




:lolwut:

rodney king
move bombing

??

yah its only been 10yrs.

weve been trying to talk for thousands of years.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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FoolOfElysium said:
Every time someone calls Trump a fascist, another American puts on a MAGA hat.

You guys just have no idea how silly you look at this point.



So, uh, you guys are willingly become more fascist every day.

Got it.


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