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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Northerner]
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What ever flipped his switch, with a largeish following watching him, influencing college aged kids had some CIA agent probably all up in his discord and steam groups encouraging him to take action.


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: budmanman] * 1
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The Utah governer calling social media worse than cancer is pretty accurate. It all keeps coming back to this inconvenient truth.

I was celebrating internally when I read this. It's the first time I've read from any public authority speak the truth of this matter. Charlie would never have been killed, he would have been a graduate living with his girlfriend getting drunk on weekends of it wasn't for this. The ability of social media to platform people who have no real greater social value is disgusting.


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
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Sugabearcrisp said:
feevers said:
I have 6 :snub:




One of my guns has a pony on it, so I'm technically a RADICAL LEFTIST FURRY


:allsodisappointed:


:youseethisshit:
Not even one giggle switch.


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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Northerner]
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Northerner said:
The Utah governer calling social media worse than cancer is pretty accurate. It all keeps coming back to this inconvenient truth.

I was celebrating internally when I read this. It's the first time I've read from any public authority speak the truth of this matter. Charlie would never have been killed, he would have been a graduate living with his girlfriend getting drunk on weekends of it wasn't for this. The ability of social media to platform people who have no real greater social value is disgusting.


I've found the Utah governor's words to be quite excellent.  Seems like a guy that gets it, even if I don't agree with most of his takes, he maintains his fundamental humanity.


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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: trees]
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trees said:
Violence advocates are dangerous, you dont want them as your nurse or chef or driver or pilot. Unless they repent 100%, fire em, put them on disability or unemployment, keep them out of the work force


They call them violent but they are literally just quoting what kirk said about not believing in empathy. By that logic you believe Kirk should have lost his job too for inciting violence.


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Envix]
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Its all for "freedom of speech"

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Yeeeeaaa ok


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Envix]
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Envix said:
trees said:
Violence advocates are dangerous, you dont want them as your nurse or chef or driver or pilot. Unless they repent 100%, fire em, put them on disability or unemployment, keep them out of the work force


They call them violent but they are literally just quoting what kirk said about not believing in empathy. By that logic you believe Kirk should have lost his job too for inciting violence.


Can you link a clip where he explicitly incites violence? I dont wanna see typed out of context fragments with no source or context


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: trees] * 2
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are public executions an incitement of violence?


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... (moved) [Re: JonBongGroovy] * 1
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This thread was moved from The Pub.

Reason:
Quote sources and infer context here, it's more easy going in the pub

Sorry the move is late.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Northerner]
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Northerner said:
The Utah governor calling social media worse than cancer is pretty accurate. It all keeps coming back to this inconvenient truth.

I was celebrating internally when I read this. It's the first time I've read from any public authority speak the truth of this matter.


People can choose to use social media in nourishing peaceful ways that don't generate rage & emotional instability.  Also, nobody is obligated to get angry about what someone says. It's like politics and weather - it's a choice to get mad about either .  But these days many people advertise their rage like a honorable badge of honor.  I always laugh when someone gets upset that I am not as upset as they think I should be. My best friend gets mad at me that I am not angry.  I refuse to apologize.  It's a weird world.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
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The way socmed is being leveraged is "I like to look at family photos and stay in touch". That is the lie. That is what is being abused.


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Northerner]
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There is no boogieman who is forcing you to use the internet in any particular fashion

"social media" is an 11 letter term and is so long we need to cut it down to a 6 letter abbreviation "socmed"?

~ that one is new to me

:smile:

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
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For sure, I'm unplugged.

But most people aren't like us (assuming you're unplugged too), they're deep in the mix with likes and notifications. Those people are the majority, our democratic decision making majority.

It's a curveball that's always going to implode whilst we have algorithms that are capitalist rather than altruistic.

"socmed" is a societal disease that can't be cured. Welcome to late stage capitalism.


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Northerner] * 4
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The only social media I use is the Shroomery 😆


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Ice Nine]
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It's not truly social media brother, there's no algorithm. You're free here.  :thumbup:

What you click won't effect your future on this site. You can see your own profile.


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
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RJ Tubs 202 said:
There is no boogieman who is forcing you to use the internet in any particular fashion

"social media" is an 11 letter term and is so long we need to cut it down to a 6 letter abbreviation "socmed"?

~ that one is new to me

:smile:


Just as no one is forcing you to feign confusion about how and why people abbreviate words.

Whatever happens to handwritten letters?

This country went to shit when we stopped using quills and inkwells.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: trees]
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trees said:
Envix said:
trees said:
Violence advocates are dangerous, you dont want them as your nurse or chef or driver or pilot. Unless they repent 100%, fire em, put them on disability or unemployment, keep them out of the work force


They call them violent but they are literally just quoting what kirk said about not believing in empathy. By that logic you believe Kirk should have lost his job too for inciting violence.


Can you link a clip where he explicitly incites violence? I dont wanna see typed out of context fragments with no source or context


I never claimed he was inciting violence.


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Northerner] * 1
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Northerner said:
hamloaf said:
He just took a time out.


Forever.


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: hamloaf] * 2
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I dedicate this song to Charles F. Kirk



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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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some context from memes and gamer subculture:

" At the end of the day, there isn't deep meaning to any of those stupid messages on the bullet casings.. It's all a shit post, a troll move. It's just meant to be dumb. And that's the nature of a lot of memes. You have to know a lot of subtext to understand what amounts to kind of a dumb joke.

  One of the casings reads, "Hey, fascist catch." with an up arrow, a right arrow, and three down arrows next to it. To understand this, you'd need to be a member of a particular gaming subculture, or at least generally familiar with gamer chat forums. The specific game in question is called Hell Divers 2. It came out in February of last year and involves teams of people fighting off invading insect, alien, and robot armies. The trailer for the Hell Divers 2 game is quite purposely meant to look like a US Army recruitment video. Prove to yourself that you have the strength and the courage to be free. Join the Hell Divers. Become part of an elite peacekeeping force and work together to spread prosperity, liberty, and democracy. And while it is delivered in a tongue-in-cheek manner, it's also earnestly meant to draw gamers into this idea that you are spreading democracy and peace by killing the shit out of everything around you. In one gameplay video, you can hear a player yelling, "How do you like the taste of freedom?" as he's launching what appear to be bazookas.

  In this game, if you're in the middle of a battle, you can call in backup or reinforcements. One way to do that is by hitting the up arrow on your game controller, followed by the right arrow, and then three down arrows. The down arrow three times. That will call in the Eagle 500 kg bomb, which deals a ton of damage to one small area. And within gaming communities, that series of arrows up right down down became a euphemism for dropping a bomb on something or destroying it. For example, in response to a post of a picture of a giant spider on the side of a house that says, "How would you react in this situation?" Someone responded, "I would, up, right, down." It's like a verb.

So, with that context, we can better understand the engraving on the shell casing that said, "Hey fascist, catch! up, right, down." It comes from a game which advocates for defending freedom through warfare, including using up right down to drop a bomb on your enemy. Now, I'm not interested in sitting here and saying that like video games cause very specific behaviors because of their violence. I think that's old school weird pearl clutching rhetoric. But given this context,

I don't think we can say that the engraving, "hey fascist", is necessarily because Robinson, if he did do this engraving, was left of Charlie Kirk and calling him a fascist because he's a liberal. This could perhaps better be understood as someone who played video games and became a member of a gaming community steeped in this pro-war, pro-America spreads democracy ideology. the kind where Hitler and Nazis are used as convenient go-to antagonists to advance a plot in a game. Or it could be genuine criticism of Kirk from a leftist perspective. We don't know, but I don't think it is given the other stuff."
- Leeja Miller




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