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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: budmanman]
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But rap music does promote violence to black youth, it perpetuates criminal role models and antisocial behaviour. Not sure how that can be racist.

Unless it's because you said the word black, anything you say after that is racist.


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Northerner]
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Well I got mass reported to my work at the time for it lol. I didn't lose my job, but I had to make my case.

I also got mass reported to my employer for saying Kyle Rittenhouse acted in self defense. Had to once again defend my self.

After that I got rid of my internet footprint of where I work.

I'm not reporting anyone to their employers but I have no sympathy for anyone losing their job.

Use a weapon against one group and don't be surprised when that weapon gets used against you.

Whats going to come will be bad and I will be eating popcorn through it all.


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Edited by budmanman (09/16/25 04:31 AM)

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: budmanman]
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Yeah free speech is working for you too. :lol:


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Northerner]
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The constitution is toilet paper.


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Northerner]
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That’s a very generalised statement though I’d say. Not all rap does that, and it’s not gonna just affect black kids either.

I’d say some of the more extreme genres of rap music affect some children. If the rappers are black maybe it’s more likely black kids will identify with it, but that doesn’t exclude any other skin colour or type of person from being affected negatively by it.

Personally I think the mainstream pop/rap/country music thing of look at all my cars and bitches and money is more harmful to society.

Violence is easier for most people with a good moral compass to grasp as a bad thing, but the greed and lack of shame portrayed by some pop/rap/country music is more insidious in my opinion.

Not just in music, but in popular television, reality TV. Just absolute garbage.


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: budmanman] * 1
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I'm glad to be a political nihilist, despite everyone thinking I must be batting for the other side. The only secret I have to keep at work is my drug use.

From what I've read Charlie wasn't a really cool guy, he fed on contention and division rather than unity. There's no small amount of irony that he's been far more effective towards those ends in his death than he ever was in life.

Bardy said:
That’s a very generalised statement though I’d say. Not all rap does that, and it’s not gonna just affect black kids either.


Just insert "the majority" around every noun and adjective.

Bardy said:
Not just in music, but in popular television, reality TV. Just absolute garbage.


And it's empowered by social media. Without that it would all be mostly toothless and fringe. People would be far more moderate vocally. Social media is the true issue, like with Charlie here.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Northerner]
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The sentence doesn’t make much sense when I do that :lol:

I’m not disagreeing, Budman had free speech infringed, not cool.

I was just trying to go a bit deeper into the idea.


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Bardy]
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Well you get the majority of the idea. Gramma listening to Tupac isn't gonna start popping caps in yo ass bitch. :lol:

There's some far more moderate hip hop going on for sure, it's a popular style.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Bardy]
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Bardy said:
That’s a very generalised statement though I’d say. Not all rap does that, and it’s not gonna just affect black kids either.

I’d say some of the more extreme genres of rap music affect some children. If the rappers are black maybe it’s more likely black kids will identify with it, but that doesn’t exclude any other skin colour or type of person from being affected negatively by it.

Personally I think the mainstream pop/rap/country music thing of look at all my cars and bitches and money is more harmful to society.

Violence is easier for most people with a good moral compass to grasp as a bad thing, but the greed and lack of shame portrayed by some pop/rap/country music is more insidious in my opinion.

Not just in music, but in popular television, reality TV. Just absolute garbage.


Eminems music promoted me to get into drugs and I did the drugs and I sold the drugs and I committed hella crime and I attribute that largely to how fun he made drugs seem. Not soley but it was a factor.

Ayo for yayo and all that also.

Most of my crime imo shouldn't have been illegal in the first place in a free society anyway.

And most of my crime I learned how to do and do it well with the info from this very website.

I wasn't robbing people, or stealing or any of that other than a lil clepto shop lifting here or there in my teens and most of that was exclusively bic lighters.

But it will disproportionately effect black youth especially with the gang culture and a lot of the rap catering to it.


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Edited by budmanman (09/16/25 05:10 AM)

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: budmanman]
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I was just thinking about how Eminem effected white folks who were into it in relation to crime, thanks for the insight.


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Northerner]
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:lol: My Gran pops caps in people’s arses all the time. But if you read my comment you’ll see that I agreed that it can influence kids… :shrug: I was just trying to expand on the idea by adding that it’s not just black kids. Maybe it is disproportionately, I can’t claim to know either way. Makes sense why that might be true though, nothing about it seems like a crazy idea.

But yeah, old Charlie wasn’t working in the interests of most people. It’s obvious why he was targeted here in my opinion. Again, I’m not saying it’s good that he was though, or that it’s right. It’s just obvious.


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Northerner]
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Northerner said:
I was just thinking about how Eminem effected white folks who were into it in relation to crime, thanks for the insight.



I've still got my 1100w sony xplods rocking strong decades later that I would drive around bumping his shit while slanging dope, high as fuck having to pull over to throw up cause I got too much drugs in my system.

I drove better on drugs than I do now. I was hyper focused on what was going on cause I had no insurance and a car full of dope.

Now I change lanes like I don't give a fuck cause I just don't anymore, stay out of my blind spot cause I might not check it but that is what the car insurance is for and I am too exhausted from actually working all the time now to give a fuck.


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And I am mentally unstable.

Edited by budmanman (09/16/25 05:20 AM)

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: budmanman]
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Menace to society over here


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Bardy] * 1
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Bardy said:
:lol: My Gran pops caps in people’s arses all the time. But if you read my comment you’ll see that I agreed that it can influence kids… :shrug: I was just trying to expand on the idea by adding that it’s not just black kids. Maybe it is disproportionately, I can’t claim to know either way. Makes sense why that might be true though, nothing about it seems like a crazy idea.

But yeah, old Charlie wasn’t working in the interests of most people. It’s obvious why he was targeted here in my opinion. Again, I’m not saying it’s good that he was though, or that it’s right. It’s just obvious.


Of course it makes sense and that is why I got to keep my job. They pulled me to the side and were like so yeah someone reported you for these posts. At the time I worked for the local government in an extremely democratic state. They were like seems like you got a strong bias here against black people and we can't allow that.

I just had to explain the logic and thankfully when people have to do a face to face interaction they can't do all that online tactic bullshit that people do and were like oh yeah that makes sense. We are gonna have to work on our online policies.

Their solution was to remove open public comment from the locals from all their social media.

So they tried to silence me, but instead silenced the local population from being able to have an open forum to communicate with the city.

I currently have places I don't work at as my work history so anyone that does that calls some place I don't work to report me.

I also keep pictures of me up in old companies I worked for uniforms so that way the bastards will try calling them too.

For the most part it really died down after Biden had been president for a good while.


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Edited by budmanman (09/16/25 05:28 AM)

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: budmanman]
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That's a very democratic position for a city. "Shut up cynts". lol


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Northerner]
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My state banned "assault rifles" and made up some definition of what those are and also banned high capacity magazines, which translated to any magazine with more than 10 bullets.

They did it all without a vote from the public so not listening to your constituents or even caring about them is the democrat way.

My guns grandfathered in though :crankey:



I have never really changed my stance on anything most of my adult life but somehow now I am I guess a far right extremist. My state has always been blue and for most of my life, always was very pro gun and had a huge gun culture. Then idk wtf happened but sometime late in Obamas term something happened.



I am pro UBI because of the coming inevitable automation and I am also pro kicking illegal immigrants out and I think I should be able to shoot the fuck out of a home invader even if he's running away from me.

My friends dad shot a home intruder in the back when the guy was halfway through running away through his yard, police came documented it and it was like well that's what happens when you break into someone's house and nothing happened to him. This was some 30 or so years ago.

Now you gonna do life probably if you did that. You can't even shoot them if they are in your car and driving away with it because you are not in immediate danger.

Like fuck that.


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Everything I have ever said is total bogus bs I am full of crud therefore everything I say should never be taken literal.

And I am mentally unstable.

Edited by budmanman (09/16/25 05:50 AM)

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: budmanman]
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Australia is a representative democracy too, we're used to getting fucked over like that. Doesn't sound like they wanted to "come for your guns", just stop a growing problem.

Glad you keeping your arms bro  :thumbup:

It's obvious that people like you aren't the problem with gun ownership. But how to know the difference between you and them is the million dollar question.


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Northerner]
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How I deal with my states gun self defense rules.


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: budmanman]
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Here is why they MK ultraed Charlie Kirk.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOi7UkliFQg/

He spent most of his career defending Israel but around the start of this year he started not being able to. It kinda started after he lost the jews did 9/11 debate.

I think something clicked, like if you can't even argue properly if jews did or didn't do 9/11 why the hell are you endlessly defending Israel.


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Everything I have ever said is total bogus bs I am full of crud therefore everything I say should never be taken literal.

And I am mentally unstable.

Edited by budmanman (09/16/25 06:00 AM)

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: budmanman]
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Well, they're American allies, and overreacting and wiping out massive populations for relatively small slights is the American way. Maybe it was just dissonance?


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