syncro said:
I was going to comment more about the Egregori. I thought I had saved more of what was written. This I posted a while back referring to (anthropomorphisms of) them.
not much said
-Some of the "authorities" I visualized as angelic, large beings, hanging out at the pentagon and stuff. It's like this is the way it is, instruments of time.-
Sometimes I would see forms of angels, and that I recall in most, except one, I did not perceive high intent, but they were large placeholders perhaps, of various bindings on the world. As instruments of karma, maybe can't call them bad, but law.
I wrote before about an angelic form I perceived, can't find it, but it was on top of a middle school; he postured, spreading his wingspan some 30 ft. I did not trust his vibe. I could be wrong, but I thought of him as possibly that type.
One that impacts memory, from long ago in a difficult time, I was having suicidal thoughts, not close to deed but feeling bad enough, and at a climax of sorts within appeared an angel holding a spear. In my state I thought he was there to kill me for my thoughts. He did not acknowledge me but stood there as if in duty. I finally said, go ahead, and brought the head of the spear to my neck, and he remained still. I conjectured later that he was guarding me.
Still with my several examples, I'm not quite connecting on who these are described, Quote:
from Eliphas Levi who called them "terrible beings" that "crush us without pity because they are unaware of our existence.".
Perhaps a particular association for me is not necessary; there are influences beyond imagination. I guess my point is to emphasize there are powers not like that but beneficent and available.
I would say some of them are like Guardians, like Gargoyles, or a Badge. Like the Roman Aquila, the Roman Aquila was a Symbol of the Power or Might of Rome, and it would be represented by a Standardbearer with a kind of like Pinned on Badge, and if it was lost the Romans were known to Spend up to like 30 Years one Time Searching for one that had been Lost.
And I would say there is a kind of Counter Force, like a Yin and Yang going on, between the Aquila and the Phoenix. The Aquila being a Representation of or Represented by Lightning, and the Phoenix being a Representation of or Represented by Fire. And I would say we can actually see an Egregore in the Phoenix, and kind of Recurring Entity. In the Phaiakians, in the Pre-Flood Civilization, in the later Phoenicians, and People might say “Phoenicians and the Phoenix having a similar name is Coincidence regarding the Color Purple”, but actually the Phoenicians were named after King Phoenix, Son of Agenor, and Agenor and Phoenix United Libya and Canaan, the Phoenicians, and they are the said Forefathers of the Phoenicians, and King Phoenix IS THE GREEK PHOENIX. So what the Greeks were saying was that this Society that existed between Canaan and Libya was recurring, that it would be Burned to Ashes and Continuously return. The Greeks are Witnesses.
But I say that to say that the Phoenix Bird and the Aquila are Egregori, and are something like a Badge, a kind of Order in the Chaos. And to the Point of Chaos, Egregori in Modern Times are very Common in Chaos Magic. Pepe the Frog is an Egregore, the Cult of Kek is like an Online Chaos Cult.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_magic
https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hatewatch/what-kek-explaining-alt-right-deity-behind-their-meme-magic/
https://www.reddit.com/r/chaosmagick/comments/1f4ju0g/thoughtforms_egregores_and_godforms/
But it is not just Chaos Magic, they are the Angels and the Demons of the Bible, they are the Gods of Ancient Greece, Rome, Egypt, etc. the “Elohim”. The Word “Elohim” shows up in the Genesis Verse, “Let us make them in OUR image”, but then also Deuteronomy I think it is.
Deuteronomy 5:6 “I am Yahweh your Elohim, who brought you out of slavery in Egypt.”
And God also calls the Egyptian Gods “Elohim”. In Exodus 12:12.
But the Word Egregore actually appears in Enoch, as Grigori, the Watchers. Enoch sees them as he is passing through the different layers of Heaven.
2 Enoch 18 |About the taking of Enoch to the fifth heaven.|
And those men took me up on their wings and placed me on the fifth heaven. And I saw there many innumerable armies called Grigori. And their appearance was like the appearance of a human being, and their size was larger than that of large giants. •And their faces were dejected, and the silence of their mouths was perpetual. And there was no liturgy in the fifth heaven. 〈|And I said to the men who were with me, “What is the explanation that these ones are so very dejected, and their faces miserable, and their mouths silent? And (why) is there no liturgy in this heaven?”|〉 •And those men answered me, “These are the Grigori, who turned aside from the LORD, 200 myriads, together with their prince Satanail. And similar to them are those who went down as prisoners in their train, who are in the second heaven, imprisoned in great darkness.
And three of them descended to the earth from the LORD’s Throne onto the place Ermon. And they broke the promise on the shoulder of Mount Ermon. And they saw the daughters of men, how beautiful they were; and they took wives for themselves, and the earth was defiled by their deeds.
Who 〈and the wives of men created great evil〉 in the entire time of this age acted lawlessly and practiced miscegenation and gave birth to giants and great monsters and great enmity.
And that is why God has judged them with a great judgment; and they mourn their brothers, and they will be outrages on the great day of the LORD.” •And I said to the Grigori, “I have seen your brothers and their deeds and their torments 〈and〉 their great 〈prayers〉; and I have prayed for them. But the LORD has sentenced them under the earth until heaven and earth are ended forever.” •And I said, “Why are you waiting for your brothers? And why don’t you perform the liturgy before the face of the LORD? Start up your liturgy, and perform the liturgy before the face of the LORD, so that you do not enrage your LORD 〈God〉 to the limit.”
And they responded to my recommendations, and they stood in four regiments in this heaven. And behold, while I was standing with those men, 4 trumpets trumpeted in unison with a great sound, and the Grigori burst into singing in unison. And their voice rose in front of the face of the LORD, piteously and touchingly.
And as far as Angels go, there are actually various Words. The Word itself means “King” or “Messenger of a King”, God himself being called “Lord” so basically like a King, Kings also being called “Lord”. But there are Seraphim, and Cherubim, and then Grigori is one of those, and we can Start to kind of use some of these Words interchangeably in Modern Day. Basically how in Islam all Angels and Demons are the Race called Djinn, but Djinn usually is used to Refer to Demons. It all becomes just Words once You realize these Things are all Real, it doesn’t Really matter what exactly we call them, just as long as we ARE able to Talk about them by using whatever Term we can begin to understand them with.
And Egregore is a Good Term because it Translates in German to “Poltergeist” and we can Start to understand these Things better that way, because we can then look at the Term “Zeitgeist” and the Movie called “Zeitgeist” actually got the whole Thing Wrong. The Zeitgeist is not about like Jesus being some Forgery, copied from Egyptian Gods and Mithras, the Zeitgiest is the fact that all Religions and all of these Entities are 1 Thing, the “Zeitgiest” being a Word also that kind of means like “Global Paradigm”. And when we look at this we can see how the World begins to unfold before us as we begin to understand all of this.
“Oracle” is another Word that can be used to understand this, most People think an Oracle is like 1 Person who has the Ability of Divination, the Ability to kind of See into the Future or something, the way most People think the “Oracle of Delphi” was like a Place where a bunch of Female “Oracles”, but that is not how it Worked. The “Oracle” had Human Parts (the Females) and it had Invisible Parts (Gods and Titans, etc). And the Oracle Ruled over Greece. Greece had Democracy, but overall it was Ruled by an Egalitarian Mystical Dictatorship basically, called The “Oracle of Delphi” or The “Oracle at Delphi”. If a Greek City-State wanted to go to War, or do anything Really, they would consult the Oracle.
https://www.theoi.com/Titan/TitanisPhoibe.html
And even after Rome came into being, they would consult the Sibylline Utterances:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibylline_Oracles
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibylline_Books
I say all this to say that an Oracle is an Entity made up of Humans and Egregori, Working together. And that the Phoenix is an Egregore, or something even Larger.
Edited by Angelicalist (07/26/25 03:07 PM)
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