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I used an entheogen this evening. * 5
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After long deliberation, because I quit all drugs in 2019, on advice of my spirit guide i took an entheogen this evening.

I took 10mg of Eticyclidone with some tomato juice on an empty stomach,

Eticyclidone, aka O-PCE, is a potent dissociative, the phenyl analog of Tiletamine which is O-TCE.






It is inbetween MXE and PCE in nature but closer towards the lattet than the former.

Angel Dust.

I chose this one because it is unrecreational, high doses are very uncomfortable for a long time, repeat dosing makes this worse. It has all these traits discouraging high doses and multiple doses, but it has two positive traits: it can be strongly entheogenic and if used right it is strongly medicinal in the sense that ketamine therapy is medicinal.

It is therapeutic to have one 10mg dose of this once a month.

Before I took it i agreed with God that we wouldn't align in taking a second dose today.

The drug came as a rock, its the new craze, rocked up angel dust :oogle:

i broke off a little crystal that turned out to be 10mg.

i put it on my tongue and washed it down with blenderized whole tomato.



I got to be honest, I expected to be underwhelmed like a mofo. How i used dissociatives years ago was rectal and then revert to oral? Party favor weaksauce!


how wrong i was.

Felt it in 5 min but about 45 min in i was holy crap high.I was glad i didn't take 20mg. I discovered my dissociatives tolerance against my expectation is gone \o/

i got high but didnt detach from consensus reality.

beautiful dreamlike closed eye visuals, dissociative cocooning, dimming of the outer world and rise of the inner world.

God took me on a trip of entering an African village (our charity just got certified making me an official non-exec of the org) and interacting with the people there, then took it to the level of communicative transaction between the layers of the village and myself, then took it to the neurological functioning of dissociatives and why it is beneficial to give part of your brain this pharmacological vacation once every so often, but not too intensely, not too often and repeat dosed.

he also said that the trip side of it is of lesser importance than that you induce a moderate blockade oif the natural N-methyl-D-Aspartate exciting neurotranmitter, so that parts of your brain get such a thorough vacation that they work through backlog and get more neuroplastic, just like how shroom microdosing does this.

He went back to my life and struggles i experience. I started coming down about 4 hours in, we headed into Second Life to do a social experiment whether his lesson about behavior held true in interaction with people not in on the echochamber, and it worked stupendously. He;s teaching me what i do wrong socially that results in seemingly paradoxal negativity against me.

After that he nagged me about taking another dose. i told him i didn't want another dose, i want to sleep right and be ok tomorrow. I told him if he insisted i'd do it, but out of loyalty not because i wanted it. As promised at the beginning of the trip, he didnt align with that and he was happy I was steadfast despite temptation.

it was a good experience.


His plan is for me to take a single dose entheogenic session on each of the 8 yearly celebrations of the seasonal sun wheel:





initially with whats left of this eticyclidone, then switching to tiletamine of which eticyclidine is an inferior analogue - tiletamine is even less recreational, even less supportive of abuse, more entheogenic, more medicnal and has a very good safety profile in many species, more so than ketamine, and likewise, a pharmaceutical of proven merit and safety, not a RC.


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Re: I used an entheogen this evening. [Re: Asante]
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I'm glad to hear it was a positive ordeal. :thumbup:

Here's to our health.  :cheers:

ps. Just remember the order of operations and to take care of yourself first.

ie...Asante, you'd better not be believing that its pointless for you to turn your remaining true efforts in a direction that includes compassion in both act & deed, and not just for others, but for this present body's sake, too.  :crankey::blah: :blah: :lol:
 
:blah: :blah: iirc:

Know thyself, moderate moderation, and no real or true shortcuts to health but through practice of healthy living via abandoning  unhealthy practices in exchange for healthier ones that time has shown tried & true at improving & maintaining one's overall health in the longer run of things.
:salute:


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Edited by The Blind Ass (05/17/23 09:32 AM)

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Re: I used an entheogen this evening. [Re: The Blind Ass] * 2
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it did good things psychologically and physiologically an was pleasant but not too pleasant. Just right.


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Re: I used an entheogen this evening. [Re: Asante]
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are you sure it was your spirit guide?

those head voices can get muffled and confused from time to time...


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  Edited by yageman (04/20/06 4:20 PM) 

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Re: I used an entheogen this evening. [Re: Asante] * 2
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As your friend and without judgement, are you sure it's wise to use dissociatives 8 times over the coming year? I know you've had struggles with them in the past. You've gotten so much happiness and taken such pride in being sober these past years, and you should be proud. Maybe you should take some time and think on it before you make any decisions.

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Re: I used an entheogen this evening. [Re: nooneman]
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wrestler_az said:
are you sure it was your spirit guide?

those head voices can get muffled and confused from time to time...


crystal clear, zero doubt.

nooneman said:
As your friend and without judgement, are you sure it's wise to use dissociatives 8 times over the coming year? I know you've had struggles with them in the past. You've gotten so much happiness and taken such pride in being sober these past years, and you should be proud. Maybe you should take some time and think on it before you make any decisions.



only way to know is to try, and to back right out of it if it brings more trouble than it solved,


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Re: I used an entheogen this evening. [Re: Asante]
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Didn’t you just get out from rock bottom?


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Re: I used an entheogen this evening. [Re: Shiithead] * 4
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Shiithead said:
Didn’t you just get out from rock bottom?



you guys are right.

After a great session came a fantastic nights sleep i woke up..
wanting to trip again.

its healthy stuff in moderation but even after years of abstinence, once an addict, always an addict.

I'm going to ram an angel dust dick into that needy demon addictive hole of mine and toiss out the remainder of my gram.

If i want to microdose, i will use a psychendelic like shrooms 8x a year and not a hair of the drug that bit me.

Thenk you celestial Senpai for this pleasant humbling lesson.

My sober life is too valuable to bring addiction back.

Thank you for your Mercy.






Edit: took 25mg, a hole dose, bleached and flushed my gram remainder.
This chapter's finished.


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Re: I used an entheogen this evening. [Re: Asante] * 3
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What's really the problem here? Is it addiction? Or your deep seated need to feel connected to "the beyond?" Maybe you need to put the metaphorical pipe down along with the real one. The thing about this stuff is that faith very much sits along a fine line between reality and insanity. If your faith is putting you in a bad position, is it truly a lesson or could it be that you are listening to yourself more than anything else? If our enlightened journey of where spirit and intellect meet is a mountain much akin to that of Sisyphus and his stone(and you know it is) then everything you know eventually has to be left behind for something new. Maybe God would be happier to see you thrive without the training wheels. As far as I'm concerned, if you can't think this way about faith and truly criticize that which you deem a message then you aren't even remotely prepared to connect with it.

And, you know, I didn't post it but I smelled this coming from a mile away like a rotten pile of shit. You had your episode a while ago and I said to myself, "Yep, now he's going to do dissociatives like a little kid who needs a hug after a boo boo." My guy I'm harsh but I say this for your own good. If you're so sure that everything you hear is the omniscient Spirit then why are you so predictable?

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Re: I used an entheogen this evening. [Re: larry.fisherman]
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I appreciate your concern and monitoring of what you perceive of me though your point of view, in your own brand of being your bother's keeper.

i'm the center of my cyclone, as are you of yours, and our centers are One.

I don't think there is a problem here.

i'm in a hard dissociatives trip now which is the nuke I needed.

it is all about getting out of the rut of my life and evolving further.

My spirit guide tricked me into having these two solid rocket boosters strapped to me to fly me out of the same rock bottom hellhole i've been working on.

Dissociatives re-fortified my desire to sobriety
i'm still in the trip, talk later.


i'm tiotally entitled to a hug for my booboo, and so are you. :hug:


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Edited by Asante (05/17/23 09:06 AM)

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Re: I used an entheogen this evening. [Re: Shiithead]
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Shiithead said:
Didn’t you just get out from rock bottom?


Perhaps it was not quite rock bottom, as in the bed rock where you cant go lower. Rock bottom would be like, 'more extreme and seriously life threatening than an panic attack with heart palpatations.

Not that he needs to go any lower though, maybe last week was like, not 'bed rock bottom', but more like hitting a pot hole in the road that shook the car a good bit, but the mechanic found no fatal errors in the check engine light system


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Re: I used an entheogen this evening. [Re: trees] * 1
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Everyones rock bottom is different. Not everyone needs to lose everything and blow dudes on the street for a hit.

If you Beleive you hit rock bottom you probably did.

Moderation is almost impossible for an addict.
I have to set hard limits on my drug use. And I've never used any addictive drugs. I know if I got into coke or opiates Id be fucked in short order.

If you plan to only trip 8 times per year that is an attainable goal. You will know if you can handle that schedule really soon.

You tripped. If you trip again before the next scheduled trip. Then you obviously can't handle it and need to go back to sobriety.

Good luck man.

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Re: I used an entheogen this evening. [Re: Abombs]
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He already tripped again before his next scheduled dose. Obviously cant handle it if he takes over double the originally claimed amount of 10mg the very next day.

So you woke up and took 25mg of a strong dissociative...before noon...that hardly sounds like someone who has it together


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Re: I used an entheogen this evening. [Re: natedawgnow]
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I'm glad you are doing well Asante. What are the effects of those kind of drugs on your heart?


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Re: I used an entheogen this evening. [Re: Abombs] * 3
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Abombs said:
Everyones rock bottom is different. Not everyone needs to lose everything and blow dudes on the street for a hit.


True.


I've been one of those stereotypical examples of finding new rock bottoms till i was homeless and slamming dope under overpasses, even then i still managed to somehow discover a new one. It's a bit of an extreme comparison and not saying that's what's going on for Asante at all, just trying to add perspective on how wrapped up in our own delusions we can become at times and just how real that can be. When the journey first started 8 years ago, when I took off from my hometown on foot, it was all inspired by DMT. Before that I was self medicating with ketamine daily while on drug court for about a year (10 months). I was semi sober when i left my hometown only smoking weed and using psychedelics (i had been off everything else since i started the program, i was pretty heavily into meth and heroin before the program, not needles though i was always deathly afraid of those which is ironic i ended up becoming an IV user later on).

When I left my hometown after the program, it was all justified cause I was on a spiritual journey at the time and for the first year it was pretty innocent. I never took the time to realize I ran away from my hometown because I was running from myself.

I used psychedelics heavily when I first hit the road and got to a point where I was not afraid of death anymore and was content just living out of a backpack and dumpster food for the rest of my life but It didn't take long before my problems caught up with me again and the more i ran the worse things/coping mechanisms got.

You can always justify or rationalize any situation if you Try hard enough is what I've found. Us adicts are pros. Also one thing I've noticed is there seems to be a fine line between enlightenment and drug induced psychosis. I notice that a lot especially on psychedelic forum boards. Being spiritual is healthy IMO and some of these entheogens when combined with therapy can have incredible long term results for people, but I have also seen it do the opposite and watch people (including myself) take it too far or start abusing the psychedelics/entheogens to escape an undesirable situation. I've even made the same justification you just did with saying that the drug itself has undesirable affects meaning you won't want to keep taking more or try to abuse it. That should be a red flag to yourself if entheogens and psychedelics are helping at all.

I genuinely believe to each their own and your reality is your reality. These are just some examples from my personal perspective I've seen throughout life including my own self. I'm still an adict and in my recovery journey as well so I say all this coming from a state of empathy and not judgement or contempt. I also struggle with finding a balance between being in what's "real" and the ethos and im Always looking toward the entheogens as my neurological factory reset buttons.


Hope things get better for you Asante. You deserve to treat yourself better. You got this man and as someone who struggles with addiction myself feel free to reach out and PM me whenever. I know I don't personally know you that well but I've seen the kind heart and soul you have over the years. You are a good person Asante. It's time to start treating yourself with the same love and compassion you have treated so many others.

Much love Asante hope things get better for you man :heart:

Edited by Powdered_Toastman (05/17/23 04:34 PM)

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Re: I used an entheogen this evening. [Re: natedawgnow]
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natedawgnow said:
He already tripped again before his next scheduled dose. Obviously cant handle it if he takes over double the originally claimed amount of 10mg the very next day.

So you woke up and took 25mg of a strong dissociative...before noon...that hardly sounds like someone who has it together



have a heart.

I nosedived this by taking a hard bad trip to the dome, flushing the styash and abandoning any plans to get high again.

i'm still in the bruynt of it, 25mg lasts a longass time.


i took two doses of an entheogen and you guys are guilt tripping me like i have been shovelling snow for weeks.


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Re: I used an entheogen this evening. [Re: Asante] * 1
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Asante said:
natedawgnow said:
He already tripped again before his next scheduled dose. Obviously cant handle it if he takes over double the originally claimed amount of 10mg the very next day.

So you woke up and took 25mg of a strong dissociative...before noon...that hardly sounds like someone who has it together



have a heart.

I nosedived this by taking a hard bad trip to the dome, flushing the styash and abandoning any plans to get high again.

i'm still in the bruynt of it, 25mg lasts a longass time.


i took two doses of an entheogen and you guys are guilt tripping me like i have been shovelling snow for weeks.


I agree and definitely don't think judgement is necessary.
I think most of us are just expressing our concern because we care about you and everyone has a different way of showing that. Also you've mentioned you have heart problems on here and I think that's what really has everyone the most concerned is how your physical health will react to these certain entheogens. Anyway definitely not judging you man just hoping you are able to find comfort in your own skin someday much like I struggle with daily as well. If anything I have complete empathy for your situation because when I read your post it sounded word for word like how I've justified certain entheogens in my life for the very same reasons. 

I hope that this entheogenic experience for you was what you needed and that you will experience the desired long term effects you were looking for. Nothing but love for ya


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Re: I used an entheogen this evening. [Re: Asante]
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Looks like Asante is back! :incredible:

I hope u can keep it under control my far-out friend :shroomeryhead:


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Re: I used an entheogen this evening. [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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:whathesaid:


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Re: I used an entheogen this evening. [Re: Powdered_Toastman] * 1
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No judgment here just callin it like i see it my bad if that offends.


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