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White supremacist who praised ‘psychedelic Nazis’ caught with stockpile of guns and LSD
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In a secret chat last November, according to court filings, two associates of a violent white supremacist group discussed whether drug use was in line with their political beliefs.

“Psychedelic Nazis . . . There’s nothing more Aryan than entheogenic drug use,” Andrew Thomasberg, 21, texted a friend, according to prosecutors, referencing plants that have psychedelic effects. But, he added, “Drug addiction is untermensch” – a Nazi term for people considered subhuman.

His friend replied: “That’s debatable. But I still have a bunch of shrooms anyway.”

Thomasberg was arrested at his home in McLean, Virginia, on Thursday, according to court filings, accused of possessing guns as a drug user and illegally buying an AK-47 in 2017 for that friend, who is cooperating with authorities.

In Alexandria federal court on Friday, FBI Special Agent Shawn Matthews, who testified that his focus is domestic terrorism, said Thomasberg took part in the deadly “United the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia in 2017 with a neo-Nazi group called Vanguard America.

After Charlottesville, Matthews said Thomasberg gravitated to another neo-Nazi group called the Atomwaffen Division that is “distinct in that it advocates for violence or violent acts to start a racial war in the United States.”

Prosecutors produced records of group chats in which Thomasberg said he was probably under investigation because he is “on record at shooting at people.” Thomasberg said he had shouted the n-word at a group of African Americans at the mall, according to the chat logs, talked about a coming “racial holy war” and described racially-motivated mass shooters as “saints.”

Matthews said law enforcement found 20 guns in the home Thomasberg shared with his mother, stepfather and sister. Six of the guns were in Thomasberg’s bedroom, most were loaded.

Marijuana was found in his home, although Thomasberg’s family said it belonged to his stepfather.

One person close to Thomasberg told the FBI last year that he had three or four firearms and regularly carried a handgun. He has bought two rifles, a pistol and a handgun in the past four years, according to court records.

The case is one of several brought recently in federal court charging people linked to far-right groups with gun or drug crimes. A DC man who glorified violence against minorities on social media was sentenced last week to 10 months’ time served on a gun charge.

Judge Theresa Buchanan declined to grant bail for Thomasberg, calling the evidence “extremely concerning.”

Thomasberg’s mother, who declined to give her name, said there were “a lot of discrepancies” and “lies” in the case against her son. She said he is active in the Greek Orthodox Church.

“The United States seeking out a rich, white kid – not cool,” she said.

An attorney for Thomasberg, Elita Amato, declined to comment. In court, she emphasised that there was no evidence that Thomasberg was using drugs while buying guns.

A 2013 conviction was referenced in court by the judge – Thomasberg would have been a juvenile at the time and those records are not accessible.

In June, he texted the friend who is now cooperating, known in court papers as BB, that he was “carrying enough gear and supplies to set the new high score and wouldn’t want to have to explain that to a cop.”

According to Matthews in his affidavit, “high score” is a reference to mass shootings.

Thomasberg bought the AK-47 for BB in October 2017 at the Sterling, Virginia, gun store where he worked in violation of store policy, according to Matthews.

The gun was found when police searched BB’s home this year as part of a separate investigation. Matthews said Thomasberg described the gun in an interview Thursday as a “straw purchase.” BB said the pair made up a bill of sale for the gun as a “joke” with the price $14.14; the number 14 is a reference to a white supremacist slogan.

Along with LSD and mushrooms, according to prosecutors, Thomasberg and BB discussed using marijuana, opium and the prescription stimulant Modafinil.

In July, Thomasberg applied for a concealed carry permit in Fairfax, Virginia and was denied.

Eric Clingan, a defence attorney, said he considered calling Thomasberg as a witness during the murder trial of a man who was eventually convicted of shooting and killing another man at a Fairfax County shopping centre last year.

Mr Clingan said his client, Manvinder Aulakh, was friends with Thomasberg and had learned some self-defence techniques from him.

But Mr Clingan said he dropped those plans after a background check revealed that Thomasberg had talked about marching in Charlottesville with white supremacist groups.

“My client and I determined that we didn’t want Mr. Thomasberg to testify in any manner,” Mr Clingan said.

The Washington Post

https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-supremacist-praised-psychedelic-nazis-101413870.html

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Re: White supremacist who praised ‘psychedelic Nazis’ caught with stockpile of guns and LSD [Re: mendocino_beano]
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They sound like dumb kids.  I doubt the opium was real.  The mom sounds dumb too.

Sad part is they probably posted here.


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Re: White supremacist who praised ‘psychedelic Nazis’ caught with stockpile of guns and LSD [Re: mendocino_beano] * 3
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The worst part is they might have been at least partially indoctrinated in white supremacy right here on these boards. :aweman:

They still shouldn't be in jail for drugs. They should be in jail for planning a mass murder.

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Re: White supremacist who praised ‘psychedelic Nazis’ caught with stockpile of guns and LSD [Re: nooneman]
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I've used that phrase "high score," before when talking about the vegas festival doesn't mean I hate country music THAT much.

It's just a common occurrence really and the nanny state and Trump brings up videogames every time.

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Re: White supremacist who praised ‘psychedelic Nazis’ caught with stockpile of guns and LSD [Re: nooneman]
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nooneman said:
The worst part is they might have been at least partially indoctrinated in white supremacy right here on these boards. :aweman:

They still shouldn't be in jail for drugs. They should be in jail for planning a mass murder.



Enlil says that moral relativism is cool though.  :shrug:

He's the best German.

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Re: White supremacist who praised ‘psychedelic Nazis’ caught with stockpile of guns and LSD [Re: Konyap]
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arrested and accused of possessing guns while being a drug user? lol did i read that correctly?

also, didnt see anything about finding a stockpile of either guns or lsd on this guy.


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Re: White supremacist who praised ‘psychedelic Nazis’ caught with stockpile of guns and LSD [Re: mendocino_beano]
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Yeah, no.  Shitty thing about humanity and esoterics.  Truth is open.  British here but humanity is humanity and bullshit is bullshit.  Is quite amusing old chap.  Not the great war but the second one of course.  I love that, THE GREAT WAR, before world war deuce happened.  Third one will be interesting.:shrug::loljesus:  Save us Jesus from ourselves!


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Re: White supremacist who praised ‘psychedelic Nazis’ caught with stockpile of guns and LSD [Re: Barnaby]
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Like the soldier who decided to climb the tree.  So much attention is given to neo-nazis but there are so few and I don't give a shit.  When they go marching through with their permits and rallies in cities see that it is about 200/1 for those against their ideology. :shrug:

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Re: White supremacist who praised ‘psychedelic Nazis’ caught with stockpile of guns and LSD [Re: Barnaby]
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Take them to a dog show.:carlton:

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Re: White supremacist who praised ‘psychedelic Nazis’ caught with stockpile of guns and LSD [Re: Barnaby]
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Fuck that pisses me off, like when youd run into really good rolls with swastikas on them

Apparently these douchebags were always into rolling and fucking now, what, i guess brewing ayahuasca to more deeply sow and spread that hate

A group of nazis on mdma: "i love you guys, our club and our bond has changed my life. Our mutual seething and xenophobic hatred for jews and blacks helps us love thy white brother. One guy asks: but, why do we hate the jews and blacks? Aint xenophobia irrational?

-Time paradoX-

On the comedown: surrender your robe, john, i dont like the way you think. Fuck you. Wheres my Xanax

I do not want your support on psychedelics, white power. ive been at the scene where a kid get killed with a nitrous tank at a grateful dead fest. I already drew the line there "nitrous mafia". Also all the mdma at that event was fucking weird, felt like mdai, and every asshole was running around selling the same batches of "headies, doses, sass". And then the vans full of nitrous from people id never wanna fuck with


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Edited by Fractal420 (09/23/19 05:50 AM)

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Re: White supremacist who praised ‘psychedelic Nazis’ caught with stockpile of guns and LSD [Re: Barnaby] * 1
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Barnaby said:
Yeah, no.  Shitty thing about humanity and esoterics.  Truth is open.  British here but humanity is humanity and bullshit is bullshit.  Is quite amusing old chap.  Not the great war but the second one of course.  I love that, THE GREAT WAR, before world war deuce happened.  Third one will be interesting.:shrug::loljesus:  Save us Jesus from ourselves!





i believe in my own internal god, but regardless, I do feel more and more like we actually DO need saving, from ourselves and each other. In the 60s when hippies would "drop out" as far as i know the manson types werent That freakin common in the peace and love communities. Im sure at that point white supremacy did not value lsd use the same way at all. They were prolly on other, pro-vietnam side, and WW2 had recently ended so nazis were pretty damn unpopular in the US

Gonna have to rely on each other, communities like this, and just whatever psychedelic causes bring us together. Its either under the bridge online or IMO, really snobby kids who go to aya retreats meeting up at lectures by rich old men explaining what lsd is, for $10 a head to get in (and youd usually find good acid at these events, but so many shitheads, especially the phD's presenting their powerpoints. They are not gonna truly protect psychedelics or users, they just wanna push the idea that it should be a pharmaceutical given by psychotherapists. (maps, etc)


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It's bright and blue and shimmering.
Grinning wide
And comforting me with it's three warm and wild eyes.

Prying open MY third eye


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Re: White supremacist who praised ‘psychedelic Nazis’ caught with stockpile of guns and LSD [Re: mendocino_beano]
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The last name is Thomasberg:

Thomasberg is a town in the district of Neunkirchen in the Austrian state of Lower Austria.


So, did they make up the last name, or did the last name push the person to find ancestry and then go that way according to their roots?


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Re: White supremacist who praised ‘psychedelic Nazis’ caught with stockpile of guns and LSD [Re: nooneman]
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nooneman said:
The worst part is they might have been at least partially indoctrinated in white supremacy right here on these boards. :aweman:





Yea seriously I am shocked at the number of fash on here


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Re: White supremacist who praised ‘psychedelic Nazis’ caught with stockpile of guns and LSD [Re: YangSupporter]
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yeah. crazy how many alt-right or nationalists or nazis or wjatever they call themselves.. its crazy how many are found here.


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Re: White supremacist who praised ‘psychedelic Nazis’ caught with stockpile of guns and LSD [Re: split_by_nine]
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I think young people (some young people) find unusual ideas interesting.  Bring into account personal experience and identity and something brews.


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Re: White supremacist who praised ‘psychedelic Nazis’ caught with stockpile of guns and LSD [Re: split_by_nine]
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split_by_nine said:
yeah. crazy how many alt-right or nationalists or nazis or wjatever they call themselves.. its crazy how many are found here.



Not really.  I've talked to Enlil about it, and he's pretty adamant about giving them a platform.

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Re: White supremacist who praised ‘psychedelic Nazis’ caught with stockpile of guns and LSD [Re: chibiabos]
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chibiabos said:
split_by_nine said:
yeah. crazy how many alt-right or nationalists or nazis or wjatever they call themselves.. its crazy how many are found here.



Not really.  I've talked to Enlil about it, and he's pretty adamant about giving them a platform.



What on earth for?


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Re: White supremacist who praised ‘psychedelic Nazis’ caught with stockpile of guns and LSD [Re: chibiabos]
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im saying its crazy they would make an account here. there's plenty of hate websites they could join.. why post here is my question. shrooms are not wjat i think about when someone says white power lol


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Re: White supremacist who praised ‘psychedelic Nazis’ caught with stockpile of guns and LSD [Re: YangSupporter] * 2
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YangSupporter said:
chibiabos said:
split_by_nine said:
yeah. crazy how many alt-right or nationalists or nazis or wjatever they call themselves.. its crazy how many are found here.



Not really.  I've talked to Enlil about it, and he's pretty adamant about giving them a platform.



What on earth for?



maybe so it's easier for us to identify and avoid them :smile:


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Re: White supremacist who praised ‘psychedelic Nazis’ caught with stockpile of guns and LSD [Re: split_by_nine]
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Almost forgot this...


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