The Ecstatic said:

Also I missed the international law that says its cool to assassinate journalists as long as your gun's calber is below 50.

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They didn't assassinate journalists.  They shot people who were taking pictures of their positions, just like a spotter would.

And it is a contested frontier.  That's why the Israelis built a rampart on their side of it and patrol it.  The IDF also pulled out of Gaza in 2005.  Gaza might be a fucking mess, but that's pretty much entirely on Hamas for ripping up the infrastructure and continuously squandering whatever aid gets sent there.  But hey man, those houses on the French Riveria don't pay for themselves. 

My favorite part is when Hamas builds bunkers to store munitions instead of bomb shelters and then literally tells their citizenry to go and catch bullets with their own flesh.  Truly great leaders with their peoples' best interests in mind.

chibiabos said:

The Israelis are incapable of forming an expeditionary force.  It's not that they're somehow too immaculate to ever develop expansionist policies, it's that they literally cannot.  They have neither the personnel nor the material resources to do that.

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relic said:

chibiabos said:

The Israelis are incapable of forming an expeditionary force.  It's not that they're somehow too immaculate to ever develop expansionist policies, it's that they literally cannot.  They have neither the personnel nor the material resources to do that.

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source?

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chibiabos said:

The Ecstatic said:

Also I missed the international law that says its cool to assassinate journalists as long as your gun's calber is below 50.

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They didn't assassinate journalists.  They shot people who were taking pictures of their positions, just like a spotter would.

And it is a contested frontier.  That's why the Israelis built a rampart on their side of it and patrol it.  The IDF also pulled out of Gaza in 2005.  Gaza might be a fucking mess, but that's pretty much entirely on Hamas for ripping up the infrastructure and continuously squandering whatever aid gets sent there.  But hey man, those houses on the French Riveria don't pay for themselves. 

My favorite part is when Hamas builds bunkers to store munitions instead of bomb shelters and then literally tells their citizenry to go and catch bullets with their own flesh.  Truly great leaders with their peoples' best interests in mind.

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chibiabos said:

relic said:

chibiabos said:

The Israelis are incapable of forming an expeditionary force.  It's not that they're somehow too immaculate to ever develop expansionist policies, it's that they literally cannot.  They have neither the personnel nor the material resources to do that.

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source?

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Try looking at a map.

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The Ecstatic said:

His posts might as well be a zionist talking point bingo board.

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relic said:

chibiabos said:

relic said:

chibiabos said:

The Israelis are incapable of forming an expeditionary force.  It's not that they're somehow too immaculate to ever develop expansionist policies, it's that they literally cannot.  They have neither the personnel nor the material resources to do that.

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source?

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Try looking at a map.

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ok, so you pulled that shit out of your ass and don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

got it.

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You really don't see how the geographical location and the size of the country have anything to do with the natural resources at their disposal? 

Just because you don't understand what information is entailed in a  source it doesn't mean that it isn't there...

The Ecstatic said:

Its cool tho, doesnt matter how fervently you lick the boots of the last apartheid ethnostate, theyll fall like the rest.

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If Israel is an apartheid ethnostate then why are there Muslims and Druze in Knesset and the army? 

chibiabos said:

relic said:

chibiabos said:

The Israelis are incapable of forming an expeditionary force.  It's not that they're somehow too immaculate to ever develop expansionist policies, it's that they literally cannot.  They have neither the personnel nor the material resources to do that.

Try looking at a map.

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ok, so you pulled that shit out of your ass and don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

got it.

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You really don't see how the geographical location and the size of the country have anything to do with the natural resources at their disposal? 

Just because you don't understand what information is entailed in a  source it doesn't mean that it isn't there...

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

chibiabos said:

relic said:

chibiabos said:

The Israelis are incapable of forming an expeditionary force.  It's not that they're somehow too immaculate to ever develop expansionist policies, it's that they literally cannot.  They have neither the personnel nor the material resources to do that.

Try looking at a map.

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ok, so you pulled that shit out of your ass and don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

got it.

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You really don't see how the geographical location and the size of the country have anything to do with the natural resources at their disposal? 

Just because you don't understand what information is entailed in a  source it doesn't mean that it isn't there...

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So Israel taking over the Sinai Peninsula was just our imagination?

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chibiabos said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

chibiabos said:

The Israelis are incapable of forming an expeditionary force.  It's not that they're somehow too immaculate to ever develop expansionist policies, it's that they literally cannot.  They have neither the personnel nor the material resources to do that.

Try looking at a map.

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So Israel taking over the Sinai Peninsula was just our imagination?

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I'm really not sure what your point is here.  In and of itself (and really aside from the fact that it allows overland lines of communication between Africa and the Levant) the Sinai is pretty worthless.  As soon as Israel had a reasonable assurance from Egypt that they (Israel) didn't need to maintain a presence there to put distance between their actual population and the Egyptian army, they surrendered it.  Excepting some smatterings civilization on the coastlines, there really isn't much there aside from rocks, camel shit and religious nutjobs.  And even with that lack of a contest it took a pretty huge effort for the IDF to even maintain a presence there.

Like I kept trying to drill into your skull about the Ukraine, lines of communication are a pretty big deal.

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chibiabos said:

I'm wrong about the Ukraine because lines of communication aren't real? 

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chibiabos said:

I'm also not really sure how Sinai proves that Israel is capable of really expanding in any substantial way, of its own military might.  There's fucking nothing in the Sinai.  The only reason why the Israelis could ever take it over was on account of the fact that Egypt concentrated their forces enough to have them utterly destroyed in one fell swoop, and the only reason why they were able to hold onto it was because there is literally nobody there who could have possibly opposed them.  And even then it took a disproportionately huge investment on Israel's part, to the point where it was only really worth staying there on account of the fact that the Americans wanted to use the Israeli side of the Suez Canal to test their newfangled military hardware against the newfangled military hardware that the USSR was testing on the Egyptian side.  Literally, the only thing that ever made the effort sustainable was the fact that somebody else was paying for the entire thing.

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Let's see - the Sinai Peninsula is the only land bridge between Africa and Asia, the Suez Canal connects the Mediterranean and the Indian Ocean, and it's four times the size of Israel.  Ya, I guess you're right - nothing of significance for Israel. 

krypto2000 said:

I really feel like someone is driving directly into my skull when they call it "the Ukraine."

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