musiclover420 said:

By abuse I guess I just mean overusing it, doing a lot of it with not enough breaks in between. Though I bet how much varies person to person.

Every drug has it's pro's and cons, nitrous is definitely not perfect but it's relatively safe compared to a lot of things. I think the biggest danger comes from impurities in the chargers such as oils and metal flakes, spraying those into your lungs cannot be good. Balloons and dispensers help catch some of it at least.

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I agree with that. And how it would vary from individual to individual.


When there's been tanks at small gatherings and what not it's kinda silly how I've seen some people get out of hand with the stuff....but out of all the people I've been around that do nitrous there's very few that I've seen that have an issue with it.

For the most part, the only time I inhale the stuff is if I am tripping or rolling. I've been pairing nitrous with my psychedelics and/or mdma for 7 or 8 years and haven't encountered any ill effects. That's 25 chargers at the most through out a night of tripping or rolling at home/camping, or 50 chargers over a 3 day festival. I've done that, 25 to 50 chargers, once every 2 months or so for going on 8 years now. I have yet to experience any of the side effects some folks get from it after using it over a period of time or from heavy use.

I'm acquainted with one dude that had what seemed to be an actual full on addiction to the stuff. He would inhale it just to do it, not even while tripping or rolling or while on other drugs. I'm not sure how much he'd go through but he was a rather frequent user, he started to experience nerve issues of sorts after a few months of regular use.


I've had a box of the stuff sitting around in my room for a few weeks now...I did 3 chargers in a single balloon yesterday but other than that it hasn't been touched. I don't have much interest in nitrous and it does little for me unless I'm tripping/rolling.

TempestDnB said:

The idea of inhalants like nitrous has always turned me off....Might have been the time that I saw this kid inhale computer duster until his eyes rolled back.

I'd probably only try it tripping if I was to ever experiment with it. Even now something about it makes me feel uneasy. Probably because it's unknown to me.

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Duster is totally different than nitrous oxide though. One is mostly just suffocating you, the other is a dissociative drug. Duster is a blend of fluorocarbons and some even used to contain things like butane.


I totally understand how nitrous can get a bad image...but in my experience with it for going on 8 years now, how I have gone about using it, it's rather benign. And almost all of my "peak experiences" with psychedelics have been catalyzed by a mere inhalation or two of the stuff.

If you've never tried it at all...I do say you should consider trying it while tripping/peaking on the psychedelic of your choice sometime. This is one of the few things I ever kinda rant on about people having to try at least once , nitrous oxide with psychedelics (and/or mdma if you dabble)  . Don't bother with it otherwise, it's nothing special on it's own IME but it's ridiculous what it can do when one is on LSD or mushrooms or mescaline or MDMA or MDA (mostly with psychedelics though).


It can be used safely...Buy clean nitrous chargers. Don't suffocate yourself with it (no need to huff it, just inhale with some air and hold). Use occasionally, and when using it don't do a lot . If you have an issue with self control with other drugs that can be "more-ish" and fiendish, then let it be known nitrous can be that way...it all depends on the individual though.





Just my 2 cents on nitrous, though I know I've thrown around the same 2 cents around here before lol.






-OM


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LemurLemur said:

I dont give a fuck what ppl think ill finger their sister and slap their moma with that hand.

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TempestDnB said:

The idea of inhalants like nitrous has always turned me off. The strangest types of people would come into the shop I used to work at and buy as many chargers as they could (we had a limit on how many we could sell to one person) Not to mention the stories my dad used to tell me about going through a hundred chargers in a single setting. Something about it was off putting to me. Might have been the time that I saw this kid inhale computer duster until his eyes rolled back. It wasnt until about a year ago when I saw Duncan Trussel tell a story on This Is Not Happening about the first time he did acid that I even seriously considered trying it. He talked about trying it at the peak of his trip and having the most beautiful experience of his life. I'd probably only try it tripping if I was to ever experiment with it. Even now something about it makes me feel uneasy. Probably because it's unknown to me.

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Man I knew a guy who thought nitrous was the same as dustoff He was super sketched out at me trying to get him to try some as he knew some deadbeat kids who would steal dustoff all the time and ended up looking like zombies they got so unhealthy but after I explained literally the only thing they have in common is being a gas he gave some a try and liked it.

Nitrous on it's own is pretty subtle unless you do a lot, I usually hear people say it just makes them feel tingly and lightheaded. But it can get very trippy.

I have had some really profound epiphanies while doing nitrous. It feels like I came across taboo knowledge which I literally forget as soon as I remember it It's the strangest feeling. Like you just had the best idea ever which you then immediately forgot except for a hazy memory of the general concept.

BANANA.MAN said:

I have a box of ultrapure so next time i trip ill so one or two chargers and see if it makes me sick or if it's just sfg brand. but I used sfg for a while and the symptoms didn't start until later.

but I think the potential nerve damage is probably the worst and that's not the result of impurities. what evidence do you have that the impurities are even dangerous? not saying that aren't potentially bad but you can't just assume that's the worst. even medical grade nitrous used in a medical setting can be dangerous.

and the fact that it causes pressure fluctuations in the middle ear isn't good either. I'm sure that's why it gives me headaches, not the impurities. but I have sinus problems already so maybe it's not the same for everyone. but I didn't used to get headaches and they became more and more common until now one charge can give me a headache.

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Well for one who knows exactly what the impurities are. I have heard of metal shavings/flakes being found in chargers, as well as machine oils/ lubricants from the factory process. Which I am sure are not good to spray into your lungs I have seen dispensers covered with black gunky oil on the inside after being used for tons of chargers It made me want to throw up...

But yeah not saying nitrous itself is without dangers. I just think you'd have to be pretty reckless to actually cause nerve damage by using so much.

Personally I worry more about all the coffee I drink and my heart then occasional nitrous use, even solid binges once in awhile feel fine to me

Though one danger I imagine is already being low on b12 and then doing a lot of nitrous without realizing. To be safe you can just always take some vitamins though.

When I was younger and would do a lot more nitrous I was good about taking b12 supplements and I never had any issues.

TempestDnB said:

The idea of inhalants like nitrous has always turned me off. The strangest types of people would come into the shop I used to work at and buy as many chargers as they could (we had a limit on how many we could sell to one person) Not to mention the stories my dad used to tell me about going through a hundred chargers in a single setting. Something about it was off putting to me. Might have been the time that I saw this kid inhale computer duster until his eyes rolled back. It wasnt until about a year ago when I saw Duncan Trussel tell a story on This Is Not Happening about the first time he did acid that I even seriously considered trying it. He talked about trying it at the peak of his trip and having the most beautiful experience of his life. I'd probably only try it tripping if I was to ever experiment with it. Even now something about it makes me feel uneasy. Probably because it's unknown to me.

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TempestDnB said:

I understand the difference. There is just something about inhaling gases besides the ones created by combustion that is off putting to me.

That's what my dad always used to say.. it would give you all of the answers in the universe.. but only for a fleeting moment.

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Have you read up on the history of nitrous? Before it's medical uses were discovered philosphers/ scientists in the 1700's would make nitrous oxide gas in their labs to inhale, using a crude method that also makes other nitrogen oxides some of which are very toxic I believe. Anyways before long it became popular for upper class europeans to have nitrous parties

They would take oxygen masks hooked up to nitrous and just go at it. I have even read the myth that nitrous causes oxygen deprivation actually stems from this, stupid rich people would just breath in 100% nitrous from masks with no oxygen mixed in. Which no doubt caused a lot of oxygen deprivation from people being stupid.

Anyways a lot of old philosophers used nitrous as well as ether which I have never tried. Eventually nitrous started being used for medical purposes so they mass produced it.

One other thing I find really interesting is as nitrous is such a simple compound there are literally giant nitrous gas clouds in space that have been around since before our planet even formed.

Which is part of why I think nitrous can have such an "ancient" or primal feel in a way. It has a simple complexity that's very fitting for it.

TempestDnB said:

You guys have charged my curiosity...

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The absolute absurdity and maniacal laughter is pretty seductive

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sorry but i gotta include this one as well

MrBlueYoMind said:

Nitrous drains your B12 and eventually erodes the myelin sheath that covers your nerves.  It can cause spasms, numbness, tingling, and in extreme cases paralysis.  Lions Mane is supposed to be good at restoring the myelin sheath.

Nitrous is super moreish.  But the thing is, you can stay up all night crackin open a cold one and the next day have no desire to do more.  But it will still try to trick you into thinking it's fun.

Part of why it is so moreish is because it teases the shit out of you.  Just as you realize what is happening and you are about to figure it out it fades.  And often times the different "blasts" will have different parts of a story, and by the end of the night this non-linear story about nonsense is told.  Basically you are having this intense experience and when it goes away you want to get back there so you end up filling up more balloons so you can inhale more gas or try to draw out the 30 second experience but instead your body relaxes and your extra balloons fly out of your hand.  That or you get caught in a constant load crack inhale load crack inhale load crack inhale cycle because you don't have the patience to crack three into a balloon.

Nitrous is a waste on any drug that isn't psychedelic.  And it's a waste on psychedelics without taking a proper dose to begin.

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