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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Weed legalization is the most important issue of our time. If we don't have the freedom to smoke and grow a plant in the privacy of our homes then we have no individual freedom at all.
Its not a war on drugs, its a war on freedom. and if big gov says fuck off to state laws and tries to take my weed I will fight. who's with me? it'll be the civil war all over again. buy yur guns now.

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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: mt cleverest] * 1
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mt cleverest said:
Weed legalization is the most important issue of our time.



far from it

while I agree that the war on drugs is a failure and needs to be eradicated and
agree for many of the same reason, it's far from the most important issue, if it is
the most important issue to you then it's clear that you are a marijuana centric
individual that probably kisses your mushroom black light poster every morning

Quote:
it'll be the civil war all over again


where's that anti-trump revolution/civil war the left has been promising?


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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
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it's important because it's an imposition that never should have been allowed to begin with.

so please. give your foolish propaganda a rest.

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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: akira_akuma]
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I didnt say it wasnt important I said it wasnt the most important

how about letting the grown ups talk and you go get a nap


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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
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So what if I kiss my blacklight posters? sure I am a weed enthusiast but even for those who don't smoke at all, it should be the most important issue. what else encapsulates personal freedom/ state rights vs big gov like the weed issue? not everyone who fought for the south in the civil war was a slave owner.

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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: akira_akuma]
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I actually agree with pris here; marijuana legalization is a serious issue worthy of immediate attention, but I wouldn't say it is the most important issue of our time.


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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: Prisoner#1]
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I'm a big boy because I take big boy naps.


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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: mt cleverest]
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mt cleverest said:
So what if I kiss my blacklight posters? sure I am a weed enthusiast but even for those who don't smoke at all, it should be the most important issue. what else encapsulates personal freedom/ state rights vs big gov like the weed issue? not everyone who fought for the south in the civil war was a slave owner.



spoken like a true liberal, everything has to be about you and what you want


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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: Prisoner#1]
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You should see that the "most important" issue is something that is very personal. What is important for one person is hardly worth a thought to another.

Recognizing that, I think we should all just stop arguing over meaningless semantics and get to the real issue. Since you've already agreed that legalization of drugs is an issue, you should leave it at that.

Love ya pris :wink:


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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: yogabunny]
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I don't disagree with anything you pointed out. It's going to take time. I live 1000 miles from the closest recreational marijuana dispenser. If I could buy it legally, and not put the person bringing it to me at risk, I certainly would. People around here aren't going to stop using marijuana because it's not "logical" due to the bullshit laws.

Trump? Job creation? I have no idea what you're talking about.

Prisoner#1 said:
seems all of the marijuana lobby is lacking in results


This.


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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
I didnt say it wasnt important I said it wasnt the most important

how about letting the grown ups talk and you go get a nap


what did i say? give your foolish propaganda a rest.

it's arguable that it's the most important issue, because it never should have been an issue, and was engineered as one.

you're telling me you're an adult. laughable.

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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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shivas.wisdom said:
I actually agree with pris here; marijuana legalization is a serious issue worthy of immediate attention, but I wouldn't say it is the most important issue of our time.


it is an important issue for a number of reason that cleverest has outlined and more,
and none of these weed rules! kiddies will do anything more than send $5 to NORML and
sign an online petition, they're the armchair activists, they'll do as little as
possible and claim they've done their part

these junior liberals will slap on a pussy hat and act like jackasses for weeks in
protest for rights they already have but arent willing to have a face to face with
their elected officials, it's too much of an inconvenience to flood the offices of
the officials with letters and phone calls but by god, trump said "grab them by the
pussy" and that means it's time for a revolution


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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
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akira_akuma said:
what did i say? give your foolish propaganda a rest.

it's arguable that it's the most important issue, because it never should have been an issue, and was engineered as one.

you're telling me you're an adult. laughable.



:brainscream:


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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: vinsue] * 1
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vinsue said:
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... Trump is all about job creation right?


Yea, more law enforcement, more judges and prosecutors,
more private prisons and corrections officers, even more paid informants.
:monopoly: . . . :peace:


:smugjerry:

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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
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Prisoner#1 said:
they're the armchair activists, they'll do as little as
possible and claim they've done their part



you can't even call your representatives out, for bad decision making, on the internet. :shrug:

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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
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akira_akuma said:
Prisoner#1 said:
they're the armchair activists, they'll do as little as
possible and claim they've done their part



you can't even call your representatives out, for bad decision making, on the internet. :shrug:


:whateverhuman:


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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: Prisoner#1]
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I agree with that too, on slightly less partisan terms. It's easy for people already comfortable enough to be complacent. This is true across the spectrum. Our governments are well aware of that and channel the occasional emotional outrage into harmless channels.

Sign holding and chanting (and to some extent, property destruction) is little more than cathartic release. Where we will disagree, it's when it comes to letter writing and face to face meetings with your representatives. Has this ever worked successfully for you?

My first attempt involved Stephen Harpers campaign to bring mandatory minimums to Canada's criminal code. I wrote a long response, referencing studies that had concluded the harm and ineffectiveness of such laws, and then asked my MP his opinion. He was not even a member of the Conservative party, but I received no response. I sent a second letter, also ignored. I send a third, now only talking about how disappointed I am that I couldn't even get a canned response and vague mentions of "media" and "ignoring youth voters". That got me a near instant response asking me to resend my original letter, citing some vague excuse about "must have been lost," regarding my prior letters. Waiting eagerly for their response, it comes a few days later; a canned response that ignores the entire substance of my letter and merely prattled on about "supporting safe communities" for a paragraph. I gave up.

My second attempt was far less controversial. A intersection I had to use on my way to work that, due to several reasons including general disuse use by pedestrians and resulting carelessness from drivers (suburbs for ya), was quite dangerous. I included a labelled printout of a google maps view of the intersection, and included some ways to improve safety (including longer walk signal times). Sent it to my city council and mayors office; ignored. Once again, gave up. Eventually an old lady was struck a killed while crossing and they extended the walk light in response.

Has a letter writing campaign worked in your experience?


This is one of the reasons why I am a proponent of direct action. The only time I have felt and seen politics success, in my experience, was when I said "fuck the government" and just started act myself. For example, we didn't get medical marijuana from letter writing, we got it from people saying "fuck the government" and growing their own medicine and then arguing their case successfully in court. Want legal recreational weed, start growing. They can't arrest all of you.


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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: grewya]
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grewya said:
I don't disagree with anything you pointed out. It's going to take time. I live 1000 miles from the closest recreational marijuana dispenser. If I could buy it legally, and not put the person bringing it to me at risk, I certainly would. People around here aren't going to stop using marijuana because it's not "logical" due to the bullshit laws.

Trump? Job creation? I have no idea what you're talking about.

Prisoner#1 said:
seems all of the marijuana lobby is lacking in results


This.


there is a difference in a lobby being ineffective and a lobby selling out to the highest bidder and losing it's focus in the process.

that is what is hamstringing cannabis culture, disbelief (justified in my opinion) that the system isn't just going to consolidate into one big shitty monopoly where the people who actually have built the industry are going to get left out in the cold or incarcerated.


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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
akira_akuma said:
Prisoner#1 said:
they're the armchair activists, they'll do as little as
possible and claim they've done their part



you can't even call your representatives out, for bad decision making, on the internet. :shrug:


:whateverhuman:


:focv:

wouldn't want to skew the perception of your hatred of the left.

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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
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shivas.wisdom said:
Want legal recreational weed, start growing. They can't arrest all of you.


:murray:


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