qman said:

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2016/06/the-selective-compassion-of-jo-cox/

Great article calling out Cox for what she was, a hypocrite.

"instead of fighting to defend White girl victims of Muslim gang rapes, female Labour MP's have preferred to defend the Muslim community and deflect any criticism. Or like Jo Cox, they have chosen to ignore it completely."

"She was a toxic combination of self-righteousness and entitlement with believed itself possessed of a special moral insight into the moral shortcomings of their own people."

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Bubbles85 said:

What i wanna know, is where this moral insight into the short comings of their own people is coming from. Whos feeding these people such BS that they effectively turn their back on their own in favor of third world Muslims?

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I'm not talking about charity. Personally, I think if you consider your participation in your family's life a charity... you are beyond help.

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night_shift said:

qman said:

"Key aspects of human nature according to you?"

Like all organisms, we have been programmed for survival and reproduction. It sounds cold and harsh, but it's reality. It's about passing on DNA.

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Survival and reproduction, sure. I'd say it's about life going on though, not so much about passing on DNA. If DNA was core, I can't explain how come all the animal kingdom, humans included, generally lacks the urge to indulge in incest. After all, the people we share the most DNA with are our closest relatives so a most desired offspring, should this be the case, would be an offspring conceived with our, say, brother or sister; or mother or father.

qman said:

"I say one that should be taken into account is the willingness to help other human beings"

I agree, but at what personal cost?  Should I take food out of my child's mouth to feed someone else?  Should I give up my home to shelter others, what about the shirt on my back to cloth others?  Should I give up my homeland to provide a better standard of living for others?

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Nobody's asking such things from you. Furthermore, my main point is that most of the people coming to "your homeland" to live there want to live there, not to take what's yours; sure, they'd most likely need help to become a functional part of society, but once they're a functional part of society they'll excercise their willingness to help others within this society.

I don't know if it ever occured to you that I meant these people as potentially giving to others, including you (or your child, or your homeland), or not, but this is what I meant. They. Are. Just. Like. You. They're not some sort of invaders aiming to take what's yours. (Well, some of them are. Just like some of your fellow countrymen are. Societies generally have mechanisms to deal with these. None of these mechanisms are perfect, which is a perfect opportunity for improvement.)

qman said:

I think charity starts at home, helping the people closest to you such as family, friends, and people in your community.

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I'm not talking about charity. Personally, I think if you consider your participation in your family's life a charity... you are beyond help.

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"to live there"

Yeah, illegally as well. They need to find a legal means just like everyone else.

"not to take what's yours"

Your naïve, of course they want what is mine, they want my health care, educational system, jobs, public housing, food stamps, and welfare at MY expense (taxes)!  When I pay for it, it goes from me to them.

"they'd most likely need help"

You don't say, very interesting, third world people with no money, language, education or skills needing help once they illegally invade a developed nation, I learn something new everyday.

"once they're a functional part of society"

Not likely to happen, most will commit more crime, need government freebies, and lower wages for US workers. They need to be deported.

Charity- the voluntary giving of help...to those in need.

There's nothing wrong with voluntarily  helping friends, family, ect.  That doesn't mean it's a chore.

hostileuniverse said:

Qman said charity begins at home, you went on to interpret charity as participation, stating such an action meant one is beyond help, maybe you can clarify what you meant by your response to qman?

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Malkuthian said:

hostileuniverse said:

Qman said charity begins at home, you went on to interpret charity as participation, stating such an action meant one is beyond help, maybe you can clarify what you meant by your response to qman?

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His point was that helping your family isn't charity, its life, and that calling family life charity depicts a very strange approach to family. Your family are not poor people in need of hand outs, they are your family...
This was his very obvious point. Regardless if you agree or not.

Here we can see the reason for your straw man coronation.
You are utterly incapable of understanding what other people are writing, and what their perspectives are.
I don't care if you agree with me or others, but to have a conversation it is imperative to actually understand what others are writing, and you simply do not understand. Hence the constant misunderstandings from your part. This is why you sit on the straw throne. Can't you just please try to understand. I actually think you are capable, if you just try hard enough. You can do it man.

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hostileuniverse said:

Malkuthian said:

His point was that helping your family isn't charity, its life, and that calling family life charity depicts a very strange approach to family. Your family are not poor people in need of hand outs, they are your family...
This was his very obvious point. Regardless if you agree or not.

Here we can see the reason for your straw man coronation.
You are utterly incapable of understanding what other people are writing, and what their perspectives are.
I don't care if you agree with me or others, but to have a conversation it is imperative to actually understand what others are writing, and you simply do not understand. Hence the constant misunderstandings from your part. This is why you sit on the straw throne. Can't you just please try to understand. I actually think you are capable, if you just try hard enough. You can do it man.

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Oh look, more insults from a leftist retard...

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

hostileuniverse said:

Malkuthian said:

His point was that helping your family isn't charity, its life, and that calling family life charity depicts a very strange approach to family. Your family are not poor people in need of hand outs, they are your family...
This was his very obvious point. Regardless if you agree or not.

Here we can see the reason for your straw man coronation.
You are utterly incapable of understanding what other people are writing, and what their perspectives are.
I don't care if you agree with me or others, but to have a conversation it is imperative to actually understand what others are writing, and you simply do not understand. Hence the constant misunderstandings from your part. This is why you sit on the straw throne. Can't you just please try to understand. I actually think you are capable, if you just try hard enough. You can do it man.

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Oh look, more insults from a leftist retard...

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Insults???

He simply pointed out that you never seem to understand what people are actually saying, which is why you are constantly making straw man arguments.  He's right.

"leftist retard", on the other hand, is very clearly an insult.

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