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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: night_shift] * 1
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night_shift said:
qman said:
night_shift said:
qman said:
Sweetie Pie, nothing about conquest is "fair and good" for the losers!!  Guess what?  If people from XYZ want to takeover the US and they can do it, it's theirs at that point. This is called human nature, why do you have such a difficult time understanding this basic fact?



Sweety Pie, you do realise what you just said means, right?



Yeah, it means you do everything you can to defend one's national sovereignty!!  If that means strict border control, you do it, it that means strict immigration laws, you do it, if that means having a strong military defense, you do it.

The real world isn't about having nice things and then praying that no one comes to take it, that's a unrealistic approach to human nature.



Oh, please. Spread your propaganda however you like but human nature is willing to caress another human being and no propaganda is able to cancel this will.



"human nature is willing to caress another human being and no propaganda is able to cancel this will"

That's great news, because I know a lot of guys that will be willing to go over to your home and have you "caress" them into satisfaction.

Thank god you're willing to cancel out this horrible propaganda. :rofl2:

Seriously, how old are you, and how did you become so naïve? What educational system did this to you, you should have legal recourse.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: qman]
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u would qman u would


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: airclay] * 1
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airclay said:
u would qman u would



Don't you have some BLM people to bail out of jail?  :lol:

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: qman]
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u would qman, u would


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* *DELETED* [Re: qman]
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: airclay]
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http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8279/islam-germany-may-2016

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/680828/Germany-Turkey-Islam-above-law-Muslim-immigrants-study

"47 percent of Turkish citizens living in Germany admitted following their religion was 'more important' than obeying 'the laws of the land in which I live'."

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: night_shift]
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night_shift said:
qman said:
"human nature is willing to caress another human being and no propaganda is able to cancel this will"

That's great news, because I know a lot of guys that will be willing to go over to your home and have you "caress" them into satisfaction.

Thank god you're willing to cancel out this horrible propaganda. :rofl2:

Seriously, how old are you, and how did you become so naïve? What educational system did this to you, you should have legal recourse.



sigh

I dunno, man. I am 34. When I started school, I was studying in Russian, the Soviet Union was good, capitalism was bad and Turkey was a threat; then I started studying English, the USA became good, socialism became bad and Turkey became a partner; meanwhile "Macedonia will always be ours" and all that jazz; a recent history of two Balkan wars, two world wars, the cold war, and then Yugoslavia went poof. More than enough to get sick of bullshit and try to find some basis in human nature. I choose to believe good exists simply because if I don't there's nothing left for me to believe in and unfortunately I live on the first floor so jumping out the window wouldn't make it. You call this being naive. Ok.



You went to school in Russia?

"I choose to believe good exists"

It does exist, humans are capable of both good and evil, it's doesn't have to be all or nothing proposition.

"You call this being naïve"

Sheltering oneself from key aspects of human nature results in naivety.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Why do you think refugees are a bunch of third world 'leeches' that wouldn't contribute to the economy? 

39 percent of Syrian Americans have a bachelor's degree or higher, compared to 30 percent of the native born.



The vast majority of these "refugees" are NOT from Syria

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/migrants-are-disguising-themselves-as-syrians-to-gain-entry-to-europe/2015/09/22/827c6026-5bd8-11e5-8475-781cc9851652_story.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3240010/Number-refugees-arriving-Europe-soars-85-year-just-one-five-war-torn-Syria.html



No one is arguing that we should open the borders to anyone and everyone that wants to cross.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
qman said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Why do you think refugees are a bunch of third world 'leeches' that wouldn't contribute to the economy? 

39 percent of Syrian Americans have a bachelor's degree or higher, compared to 30 percent of the native born.



The vast majority of these "refugees" are NOT from Syria

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/migrants-are-disguising-themselves-as-syrians-to-gain-entry-to-europe/2015/09/22/827c6026-5bd8-11e5-8475-781cc9851652_story.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3240010/Number-refugees-arriving-Europe-soars-85-year-just-one-five-war-torn-Syria.html



No one is arguing that we should open the borders to anyone and everyone that wants to cross.



:bathtub40lol:


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
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hostileuniverse said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
qman said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Why do you think refugees are a bunch of third world 'leeches' that wouldn't contribute to the economy? 

39 percent of Syrian Americans have a bachelor's degree or higher, compared to 30 percent of the native born.



The vast majority of these "refugees" are NOT from Syria

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/migrants-are-disguising-themselves-as-syrians-to-gain-entry-to-europe/2015/09/22/827c6026-5bd8-11e5-8475-781cc9851652_story.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3240010/Number-refugees-arriving-Europe-soars-85-year-just-one-five-war-torn-Syria.html



No one is arguing that we should open the borders to anyone and everyone that wants to cross.



:bathtub40lol:



whats funny? no one is advocating that.

I mean some of us might like the idea of open borders in an ideal world but those conditions are not in place. I dont think anyone is suggesting its a means to solving the refugee crisis. As I've personally said a billion times on this thread: securing the border and accepting refugees are not mutually exclusive.

It is mismanagement, ignoring the issues and not taking responsibility that has led to even more drawn out problems than necessary, prejudice has no doubt played a part. Refugees in large numbers have been absorbed into Europe before and largely successfully..


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
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The people with blood on their hands are the people in europe promoting a panicked hysteria over immigration using language like muslim hoards or invaders etc etc. It led that fucking retard to yhink he was protecting his country by killing a politician.

Jo cox never would have had blood on her hands for her compassion to refugees.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
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No, but she may have had on account of the British people she neglected in favour of foreigners.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
The people with blood on their hands are the people in europe promoting a panicked hysteria over immigration using language like muslim hoards or invaders etc etc. It led that fucking retard to yhink he was protecting his country by killing a politician.

Jo cox never would have had blood on her hands for her compassion to refugees.



"panicked hysteria over immigration"

You mean being upset that your own government opened their borders for the whole third world to enter and invade their homelands?  Yeah, it's called a migrant crisis for a reason.

"It led that retard"

No, his homeland being invaded by third world leeches led him to that action, not language. :facepalm:

"her compassion for refugees"

She wouldn't be dead if it was just about her compassion for refugees, her political agenda went beyond "compassion".

Edited by qman (06/20/16 09:15 AM)

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: night_shift]
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night_shift said:
qman said:
night_shift said:
qman said:
"human nature is willing to caress another human being and no propaganda is able to cancel this will"

That's great news, because I know a lot of guys that will be willing to go over to your home and have you "caress" them into satisfaction.

Thank god you're willing to cancel out this horrible propaganda. :rofl2:

Seriously, how old are you, and how did you become so naïve? What educational system did this to you, you should have legal recourse.



sigh

I dunno, man. I am 34. When I started school, I was studying in Russian, the Soviet Union was good, capitalism was bad and Turkey was a threat; then I started studying English, the USA became good, socialism became bad and Turkey became a partner; meanwhile "Macedonia will always be ours" and all that jazz; a recent history of two Balkan wars, two world wars, the cold war, and then Yugoslavia went poof. More than enough to get sick of bullshit and try to find some basis in human nature. I choose to believe good exists simply because if I don't there's nothing left for me to believe in and unfortunately I live on the first floor so jumping out the window wouldn't make it. You call this being naive. Ok.



You went to school in Russia?



No, in Bulgaria but we studied in Russian, don't even ask me why. It was some sort of an elite school. I have a vivid memory of looking at my maths textbook and not understanding a thing because fucking stupid Russian language. It was a pain in the ass. (Nowadays I love both maths and the Russian language; but having the combination forced down my throat when I was a kid was a bit too much.)

qman said:
"I choose to believe good exists"

It does exist, humans are capable of both good and evil, it's doesn't have to be all or nothing proposition.



Agreed.

qman said:
"You call this being naïve"

Sheltering oneself from key aspects of human nature results in naivety.



Again, agreed. So, what are the key aspects of human nature according to you? I say one that should be taken into account is the willingness to help other human beings. What do you say?



"Key aspects of human nature according to you?"

Like all organisms, we have been programmed for survival and reproduction. It sounds cold and harsh, but it's reality. It's about passing on DNA.

"I say one that should be taken into account is the willingness to help other human beings"

I agree, but at what personal cost?  Should I take food out of my child's mouth to feed someone else?  Should I give up my home to shelter others, what about the shirt on my back to cloth others?  Should I give up my homeland to provide a better standard of living for others?

I think charity starts at home, helping the people closest to you such as family, friends, and people in your community.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: qman] * 1
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/681223/european-union-europe-migrant-crisis-egypt-syria-greece-italy-turkey-aegean-brussels

"Desperate European Union officials are frantically seeking talks with Egypt as migrants looking come to the continent seek alternate routes to the Aegean Sea"

Looks like the pro-immigration bureaucrats are starting to panic. :rofl2:

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: qman] * 1
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/18/europe/jo-cox-suspect-tommy-mair-court/

"Cox wrote that 'concern' about immigration doesn't mean people are 'racist or xenophobic', and worries overs jobs, education, and other factors perceived to be worsened by immigrants are legitimate."

"However, she dismantled arguments put forward by the "Leave" campaign, arguing that leaving the EU would not significantly alter the number of migrants coming into the country"

So she told people that their concerns over migrants flooding their homelands were "legitimate", but it was inevitable, that's not what people want to hear from their leadership.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: qman]
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/19/jo-cox-passionate-defence-immigration-death-article-eu

Here's some of her nonsense.

"Most voters recognize that our country has reaped many benefits from immigration, from the brilliant doctors in our NHS to the skilled workers making our economy grow"

What about all the migrants that don't work, commit crime, and are very hostile towards the native population?  Who has to support them? How many jobs did these people take from UK citizens?  How much did they drive wages lower?  Lots.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: qman]
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Brilliant doctors eh? I'm sure Syria could use some of them right now, why the fuck aren't they helping out their fellow countrymen who are risking their lives fighting Assad or ISIS???

Two answers, there are no doctors in this influx of immigrants or they are fucking cowards, either way it's no case for unrestricted anything goes immigration policies,


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
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http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2016/06/the-selective-compassion-of-jo-cox/

Great article calling out Cox for what she was, a hypocrite.

"instead of fighting to defend White girl victims of Muslim gang rapes, female Labour MP's have preferred to defend the Muslim community and deflect any criticism. Or like Jo Cox, they have chosen to ignore it completely."

"She was a toxic combination of self-righteousness and entitlement with believed itself possessed of a special moral insight into the moral shortcomings of their own people."

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