qman said:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jo-cox-passionately-defended-immigration-8209267

This pro-immigration and EU membership UK politician was shot dead today.

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Tipote said:

a lot of arms are being smuggled into Europe at the moment. There have been arrests of arms trafficking gangs with links to far right groups.

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Tipote said:

qman said:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jo-cox-passionately-defended-immigration-8209267

This pro-immigration and EU membership UK politician was shot dead today.

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shes someone you probably would have said had blood on her hands......

witnesses say they heard "Britain First" was shouted before the murder...

its the far right that is the most dangerous problem, not migrants or muslims.

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"shes someone you probably would have said had blood on her hands"

The blood bath has yet to occur.

"its the far right that is the most dangerous problem"

Yeah. because they brought in millions of third world invaders into their homeland.

"not migrants or muslims"

Yeah, those sweet little angels are fitting in so well.

night_shift said:

qman said:

"it's called understanding that the billionaires are a massive financial burden"

Oh really, because they take advantage of a excess pool of labor in Western economies? That's called supply and demand, it's NOT the same as being a third world social service leech.

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No, it's not the same. When you talk about people in terms of supply and demand, you're effectively talking about the existence of excessive people. Expendables. The supply is such that the rules can be dictated from above because there will be enough desperate people to agree to exploitation and the rest may very well die. I am simplifying but this is the essence. You like?

qman said:

Guess what pays the vast majority of the taxes, the very rich!!

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You don't say. By the by, I wonder where do they get all the money needed to pay all these taxes from?

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night_shift said:

qman said:

night_shift said:

viktor said:

night_shift doesn't really want to face up to the problem because it's all so unpleasant.

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What's not only unpleasant but simply revolting is the amount of people who believe themselves above so many other people based on citizenship.

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Not if they stay in their own homelands, but if my homeland is being invaded ILLEGALLY by third world leeches, they need to be deported like the law mandates.

Can I sleep in our bed tonight?  Or do you believe you're better than "other people based on" legal ownership?

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Does this question imply you believe that sharing a bed is the same as sharing a "homeland", and does this further imply you're welcoming all legal US citizens in your bed? 

To answer the question, of course you can sleep in any "our" bed you can find in the world. So far I've not been aware that such a space even exists, is this an offer?

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qman said:

"shes someone you probably would have said had blood on her hands"

The blood bath has yet to occur.

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"its the far right that is the most dangerous problem"

Yeah. because they brought in millions of third world invaders into their homeland.

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They are not invaders but whether you believe they are invaders or not, murder is not ok. Where is your outrage? I get the impression that its instead just a " mumble mumble invaders". If this was a muslim killing a white british politician, i imagine you would react a little differently....

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"not migrants or muslims"

Yeah, those sweet little angels are fitting in so well.

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I dont think anyone said that migrants or muslims are all angels but what I was saying is that the far right are increasingly becoming the graver threat. and more brown people around doesn't excuse that.

Britain First angry entire group being tarnished by one man, fail to see the irony

Tipote said:

qman said:

"shes someone you probably would have said had blood on her hands"

The blood bath has yet to occur.

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and the point still stands. You would say, as you have to me, that she has or will have blood on her hands.

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"its the far right that is the most dangerous problem"

Yeah. because they brought in millions of third world invaders into their homeland.

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They are not invaders but whether you believe they are invaders or not, murder is not ok. Where is your outrage? I get the impression that its instead just a " mumble mumble invaders". If this was a muslim killing a white british politician, i imagine you would react a little differently....

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"not migrants or muslims"

Yeah, those sweet little angels are fitting in so well.

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I dont think anyone said that migrants or muslims are all angels but what I was saying is that the far right are increasingly becoming the graver threat. and more brown people around doesn't excuse that.

Britain First angry entire group being tarnished by one man, fail to see the irony

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qman said:

"or will have blood on her hands"

People like her will when the shit hits the fan, Merkel and the gang better have a good escape plan because they're going to need it.

"the far right are increasing becoming a graver threat"

The "far right" wouldn't even exist if the native homeland wasn't invaded in the first place!! 

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you understand them so well


what you don't understand is that people that think like this are not the majority. They are a militant minority causing shit because a perceived white genocide and nausea over mixing cultures. sounds familiar from somewhere..

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As far as a "graver threat". the question is too whom?  Not to the vast majority of the native population, when the shit hits the fan lots of innocent people are going to be dead, it's preventable but people like yourself won't stop the madness.

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but people like yourself won't stop the madness

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Tipote said:

qman said:

"or will have blood on her hands"

People like her will when the shit hits the fan, Merkel and the gang better have a good escape plan because they're going to need it.

"the far right are increasing becoming a graver threat"

The "far right" wouldn't even exist if the native homeland wasn't invaded in the first place!! 

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you understand them so well


what you don't understand is that people that think like this are not the majority. They are a militant minority causing shit because a perceived white genocide and nausea over mixing cultures. sounds familiar from somewhere..

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As far as a "graver threat". the question is too whom?  Not to the vast majority of the native population, when the shit hits the fan lots of innocent people are going to be dead, it's preventable but people like yourself won't stop the madness.

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Of course to the vast majority of the native population! All people are threatened by this.
There are still many questions about what exactly happened to Jo Cox MP but if it is as it seems, if you don't think like these fascists then they kill you - regardless of race or religion.

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but people like yourself won't stop the madness

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hows that??

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night_shift said:

qman said:

night_shift said:

qman said:

"it's called understanding that the billionaires are a massive financial burden"

Oh really, because they take advantage of a excess pool of labor in Western economies? That's called supply and demand, it's NOT the same as being a third world social service leech.

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No, it's not the same. When you talk about people in terms of supply and demand, you're effectively talking about the existence of excessive people. Expendables. The supply is such that the rules can be dictated from above because there will be enough desperate people to agree to exploitation and the rest may very well die. I am simplifying but this is the essence. You like?

qman said:

Guess what pays the vast majority of the taxes, the very rich!!

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You don't say. By the by, I wonder where do they get all the money needed to pay all these taxes from?

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They got the money from the high profit margins that results from an excess pool of labor!!  That excess pool of labor does NOT need more third world leeches flooding into their economy. Why is this basic concept so difficult to understand?

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I understand this very well. My point is, what you call "excess pool of labor"'s major problem isn't the number of people in said pool but the fact that they are not needed and therefore left to rot. Except that people refuse to simply accept they are excessive and do the polite thing by simply dying, instead they react; those bastards. What is a very sad thing is when one group or even a single person from such a pool believes they can get out of it and actually be valued, then the rest in the pool become competition, thus the numbers begin to matter and of course the others are the enemy, and wouldn't it be very convenient to have a criteria to distinguish between "us" and "the others", and so it goes.

The gem is that the excessive person achieving a "valued" (payed for, decently) position or hoping to achieve it directs most if not all of their hatred to their competion, never realizing that the real question is, why excessive people even exist?

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night_shift said:

qman said:

night_shift said:

Does this question imply you believe that sharing a bed is the same as sharing a "homeland", and does this further imply you're welcoming all legal US citizens in your bed? 

To answer the question, of course you can sleep in any "our" bed you can find in the world. So far I've not been aware that such a space even exists, is this an offer?

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If one doesn't respect citizenship laws, why would they respect property right laws?  Or is your outlook based on hypocrisy?  Or do you like to dictate what should burden others while you remain in the comfort of your own home?

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My outlook is based on the ultimate freedom of a person with respect for others - while knowing this is impossible to achieve but also while knowing that keeping it as a goal is a valuable measure to one's actions.

Why is respecting citizenship laws linked to respecting property right laws?

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Because the US is the property of US CITIZENS, not foreigners!! The property of the US isn't any different than your private residence. The day everyone can come into the US is the day the US doesn't exist anymore, it's the same if I give a key to your home to 10,000 homeless people.

If you want to live in a free for all world where everything should be border-less, I'll send some brothers to sleep in your bed tonight.

qman said:

There's nothing wrong with people retiring younger, that's where the "excessive people" should go, into retirement.

But do you know what throws a wrench into that equation?  Supporting a bunch of third world leeches that don't contribute to their economy!

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Why do you think refugees are a bunch of third world 'leeches' that wouldn't contribute to the economy?  Did you know that Syrian Americans, for example, have more bachelors degrees than native born Americans?



39 percent of Syrian Americans have a bachelor's degree or higher, compared to 30 percent of the native born.

But you're too much of a bigot to believe brown skinned and/or Muslim people can work, and this makes your arguments ridiculous.