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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: night_shift]
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night_shift said:
viktor said:
night_shift doesn't really want to face up to the problem because it's all so unpleasant.



What's not only unpleasant but simply revolting is the amount of people who believe themselves above so many other people based on citizenship.



Not if they stay in their own homelands, but if my homeland is being invaded ILLEGALLY by third world leeches, they need to be deported like the law mandates.

Can I sleep in our bed tonight?  Or do you believe you're better than "other people based on" legal ownership?

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: qman]
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qman said:
"it's called understanding that the billionaires are a massive financial burden"

Oh really, because they take advantage of a excess pool of labor in Western economies?  That's called supply and demand



That 'excess pool' you speak of is in third world countries.

qman said:
their money comes from a crony capitalist model based on low wages and high profit margins. You can thank open borders for that structural supply and demand equation.



Outsourcing to third world countries is a far bigger problem than 'open' borders (which really aren't that open).


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
qman said:
"it's called understanding that the billionaires are a massive financial burden"

Oh really, because they take advantage of a excess pool of labor in Western economies?  That's called supply and demand



That 'excess pool' you speak of is in third world countries.

qman said:
their money comes from a crony capitalist model based on low wages and high profit margins. You can thank open borders for that structural supply and demand equation.



Outsourcing to third world countries is a far bigger problem than 'open' borders (which really aren't that open).



"That excess pool you speak of is in third world countries"

I agree it's there as well.

"Outsourcing to third world countries is a far bigger problem than open borders"

I going to say it's equally problematic for US citizens. The work that can't be shipped out becomes for competitive with more potential workers, that's never good for wages.

What would happen to Canadian domestic wages if 5 million working eligible Americans decided to jump the border?  Not move higher.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: qman]
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"Lebanese expat describes Islamification of Germany"


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: qman]
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qman said:
"Lebanese expat describes Islamification of Germany"





LOL at that stupid bitch at the end of that video in the assembly hall, tryna brain wash some kids ...

"Many of those i know, whether they come from Afghanistan, Syria, or Eritrea, are absolutely ambitious. This does not exist amongst us Germans, us people born here, barely"

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: Bubbles85]
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You can just see from her facial expression how much she fucking hates her self :lol:

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: Bubbles85]
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Bubbles85 said:
qman said:
"Lebanese expat describes Islamification of Germany"
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LOL at that stupid bitch at the end of that video in the assembly hall, tryna brain wash some kids ...

"Many of those i know, whether they come from Afghanistan, Syria, or Eritrea, are absolutely ambitious. This does not exist amongst us Germans, us people born here, barely"



Yeah, people from third world countries with no language skills or education are more ambitious. :facepalm:

So what?  Children in first grade are sometimes are more ambitious than people with advanced degrees in higher education, it does NOT make them more accomplished.

The woman was made to look like the stupid bitch she is, people from the shitholes of the world are a burden REGARDLESS of how ambitious they appear to be, it's a disingenuous argument.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: qman]
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Its all bullshit anyway. Like there's no Europeans with ambition. Lmfao. All we ever hear from idiots like her, is not to generalize about entire groups. Yet they're more than happy to do it them selves when it suits their own agenda. Weak ....

:crazymonkey:

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: Bubbles85]
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Bubbles85 said:
What joke? There was no joke, just your willingness to single out English people at every given opportunity which is kind of hypocritical.

Did you get out the wrong side of the bed this morning? Chill the fuck out man :lol:



I'm always very chill thanks. Not sure how you thought I wasn't but thats fine, its the internet.

I believe the post was supposed to be funny while making a very fair point by playing with our expectations and perceptions.

airclay made the point best about how you react like qman :lol: singling out English haha


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: qman]
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qman said:
"Deportation regardless of right?"

If one can't prove they're a "refugee", what rights do they have? 



There are some refugees who are rejected after minutes. Its not possible to review people and their documentation in minutes. The legal process is not being respected.

Quote:
"manner in which this crisis is dealt with"

You mean telling the third world that the EU's doors are wide open and flood in while you can?  Your EU bureaucrat buddies fucked over genuine refugees more than any group of people.



Yes, as we have been over many times, I don't think things should have been open borders. The point is that the law says that if they are genuine refugees they are not breaking the law by breaching borders. I think it would have been better if refugees were taken directly from camps and that those arriving in Europe were registered from the beginning so that it can be determined who are genuine without the need for as many deportations. However these are just small things to address the symptoms of the problem - global income inequality/poverty, corruption, war, oppression etc.

You live in a black and white world where if I say that Western/Global North policies have hurt these countries you hear "white people are to blame for everything 100%". Your head is still stuck in a place that seems to treat nations as isolated from the rest of the world..and ignoring global power relations between groups.


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War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Edited by Tipote (06/15/16 08:30 AM)

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
qman said:
"Deportation regardless of right?"

If one can't prove they're a "refugee", what rights do they have? 



There are some refugees who are rejected after minutes. Its not possible to review people and their documentation in minutes. The legal process is not being respected.

Quote:
"manner in which this crisis is dealt with"

You mean telling the third world that the EU's doors are wide open and flood in while you can?  Your EU bureaucrat buddies fucked over genuine refugees more than any group of people.



Yes, as we have been over many times, I don't think things should have been open borders. The point is that the law says that if they are genuine refugees they are not breaking the law by breaching borders. I think it would have been better if refugees were taken directly from camps and that those arriving in Europe were registered from the beginning so that it can be determined who are genuine without the need for as many deportations. However these are just small things to address the symptoms of the problem - global income inequality/poverty, corruption, war, oppression etc.

You live in a black and white world where if I say that Western/Global North policies have hurt these countries you hear "white people are to blame for everything 100%". Your head is still stuck in a place that seems to treat nations as isolated from the rest of the world..and ignoring global power relations between groups.




:cuteshit:


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
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hostileuniverse said:
:cuteshit:



woah check you out plopping out all these "facts" you talk about
:jokerclap:


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
qman said:
"Deportation regardless of right?"

If one can't prove they're a "refugee", what rights do they have? 



There are some refugees who are rejected after minutes. Its not possible to review people and their documentation in minutes. The legal process is not being respected.

Quote:
"manner in which this crisis is dealt with"

You mean telling the third world that the EU's doors are wide open and flood in while you can?  Your EU bureaucrat buddies fucked over genuine refugees more than any group of people.



Yes, as we have been over many times, I don't think things should have been open borders. The point is that the law says that if they are genuine refugees they are not breaking the law by breaching borders. I think it would have been better if refugees were taken directly from camps and that those arriving in Europe were registered from the beginning so that it can be determined who are genuine without the need for as many deportations. However these are just small things to address the symptoms of the problem - global income inequality/poverty, corruption, war, oppression etc.

You live in a black and white world where if I say that Western/Global North policies have hurt these countries you hear "white people are to blame for everything 100%". Your head is still stuck in a place that seems to treat nations as isolated from the rest of the world..and ignoring global power relations between groups.



"Its not possible to review people and their documentation in minutes"

Most don't even have documentation to review. http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/678083/Germany-migrant-crisis-80-per-cent-no-documents-passport-registration

"The legal process is not being respected"

You mean like no documentation or fake passports?  They need to be deported.

"better if refugees were taken directly from the camps"

This I can agree with, IF it also involves closing the border and turning those boats around before they hit the shores.

"I say that Western/Global North policies have hurt these countries"

If it wasn't for the West, these countries would be living like they did 500 years ago. The reason why these people are flooding into the EU is because their populations have exploded higher, who's fault is that?

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: qman]
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https://www.rt.com/news/346706-polygamy-forced-marriage-germany-migrants/

"German Justice Minister Heiko Maas has promised to crackdown on the growing problem of multiple, forced, and underage marriages that immigrants from developing countries for bringing with them"

Yeah, this clash of cultures and diversity is working so well on so many different levels. :huxleyfacepalm:

So when are the liberals going to apologize for all of the abuse that forced and underage marriages are having on these poor women and young girls?

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: qman] * 2
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Would the underage married girls not be underage and married if they had stayed in their homelands?

Is it normal that this disgusting cultural heritage spreads to good ol' white people?
I never heard or read about such a thing. The problem is the same regardless of where these people are at. No?

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: Malkuthian]
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Malkuthian said:
Would the underage married girls not be underage and married if they had stayed in their homelands?

Is it normal that this disgusting cultural heritage spreads to good ol' white people?
I never heard or read about such a thing. The problem is the same regardless of where these people are at. No?



What they do in regards to marriage customs in their primitive homelands is their business, not the EU's.

"The problem is the same regardless of where these people are at. No?"

Really?  Now that this problem is on the EU's doorstep, it's the same as if it were still in the Middle East. :facepalm:

Do you have any idea the burden this is going to put on the German justice system? 

What about the animosity from the Muslims after they feel these people are pissing on their way of life?

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: qman]
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jo-cox-passionately-defended-immigration-8209267

This pro-immigration and EU membership UK politician was shot dead today.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: qman]
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qman said:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jo-cox-passionately-defended-immigration-8209267

This pro-immigration and EU membership UK politician was shot dead today.





shes someone you probably would have said had blood on her hands......

witnesses say they heard "Britain First" was shouted before the murder...

its the far right that is the most dangerous problem, not migrants or muslims.


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Edited by Tipote (06/16/16 06:43 PM)

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