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Re: 20 people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: qman]
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Nobody ever stops to think about what is really going on while the entire nation is distracted during these "mass shootings". This will be all over the news for the next two to three weeks. The story will change multiple times during these 2-3 weeks. During this time, this is all that people on social media will be talking and arguing about. Then one day, the story will just disappear. You'll never hear another thing about it, never get the whole story, and it'll just be gone. What was really going on during this time. What bills, laws, or policies were taking effect while this was going on, everybody was distracted, and couldn't attempt to petition something they didnt know existed because the media wasn't covering it.

Here are some coincidences that make me call bullshit and believe it's just another false flag operation:

This took place during a presidential election. This is to convice some people to change their views.

The gunman supposedly had a Concealed license for Florida. Just another plot to take away guns/ make new gun laws, increase background checks, etc.

The guy just so happened to call the FBI and brag about his devotion to ISIS...What a bunch of bullshit. That's just like when they found the passport of one of the hijackers from 9/11 outside of a building that completely disintegrated.

This guy was on the FBI watch list back in 2013? Then how was he able to pass a federal background check to purchase a weapon? Does the FBI just decide to take people off watch lists now? "I think this guy checks out...lets leave him alone"

This all happened during a time where everybody is arguing about LBGT rights. The whole damn nation in an uproar about sexual orientation, gender equality, and transgender bathrooms. Why not fuel the fire some more with a false flag operation in the form of a mass shooting at an LGBT night club.

This lone gunman happened to fuck up this many people by himself, nobody stepped in, tackled the guy, fought back, ANYTHING? The weapon system he was carrying would have required anywhere from 2-4 reloads minimum. Nobody seized that moment?

This all happened in a "Gun Free Zone." There is 2 reasons for this. The first is so nobody can pose the question of nobody carrying a weapon fired back at the shooter," and so we can make stricter gun laws.

At this night club, out off all the people that were likely taking videos on the dance floor, taking selfies, etc....NOBODY got the shooter/shooting on video or camera? We are in a time period where people record EVERYTHING!! But yet, here we are.

This is just setting the tone for some form of political agenda/next President. If there really was a shooting (probably wasn't, who knows...they managed to trick people into thinking that sandy hook happened), then it most likely was a hate crime from some pissed off homophobe, and the government took the opportunity to to change it to a way that benefits them. Now we can put people in fear thinking that ISIS is operating on American soil, we changed the narrative, the evidence, and the name and race of the shooter. Meanwhile, nobody questions this stuff. The nation always believes the "official story" talks about how wrong it was, how they are so sad, etc. BUT THEY NEVER QUESTION IT!! The story just doesn't add up to me, and the timing of the event is just too conveinent.

Thoughts or opinions?

Disclaimer: I do not mean to offend anybody that may have been effected by this incident. I am simply trying to ask the questions and pose the possibilities of what really happened. Try to be the voice of the killed people that can't speak for themselves. Demand the answers that everybody deserves

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Re: 50+ people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: qman]
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What's your solution then? No more Muslims ever?


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Re: 50+ people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: Supachopped719]
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what do you mean? Is that directed towards me? I'm presenting the possibility that this is not an act of terrorism and is actually an inside job in the form of a false flag operation in order to aid a political agenda and cause a distraction for something else that the Government is trying to put into effect with out people's knowledge

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Re: 50+ people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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Sophistic Radiance said:
The right wingers have been working their ass off to co opt the activist power of the LGBT movement, this is their latest ploy to delude us into thinking we should be afraid of Muslims instead of them.



Yes, be more afraid of people who want you to use the right bathroom than people that want to kill you... That's some great logic you have there:rolleyes:


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Re: 50+ people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: just_curious]
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Supachopped719 said:
What's your solution then? No more Muslims ever?



just_curious said:
what do you mean? Is that directed towards me? I'm presenting the possibility that this is not an act of terrorism and is actually an inside job in the form of a false flag operation in order to aid a political agenda and cause a distraction for something else that the Government is trying to put into effect with out people's knowledge



My question was to Qman.


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Re: 50+ people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: Supachopped719]
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Supachopped719 said:
What's your solution then? No more Muslims ever?



If people would stop defending a shitty ideology and religion then maybe something could be accomplished.

I bet many people at that club would be very quick to defend Islam before this event happened, it makes no sense at all.

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Re: 20 people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: Asante]
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Asante said:
lowbrow said:
I'm finding it really hard to believe that a semi-automatic could kill 50 people.  Sounds like it was an automatic to me.




Dude, weapons are made to be as efficient as possible, that means that in trained hands you can shoot very many, very rapidly.

An AK47, thats 3 banana magazines emptied out, with 10 wounded having been hit by bullets that already penetrated another. I shoot airsoft, I could probably shoot 100 rounds in a minute, provided I can switch magazines enough. I'm no way proficient, I'm sure Prisoner#1 could do it well under a minute. And all you need to do is pull the trigger as fast as you can in a room full of sitting ducks.

In some parallel universe not far from here I'd chop your head off with my Wakizashi you complete bastard.

I just got word that the guy I know is hurt, but not critically.

Wow, this is a synchronicity I really wish had passed me by.



I believe the weapon used was an AR-15 along with a side arm. The AR-15 is the civilian equivalent of the M-16 military issue selective fire semi/ fully automatic. The civilian grade is only available in semi-automatic....meaning it will fire as fast as the finger can pull the trigger. It uses a .223 caliber bullet weighing around 50 grains that leaves the muzzle around 2700 fps.
This Vs. the .40 caliber side arm that sends a much heavier bullet at a much slower velocity...usually around 1400 fps.

I'm bringing this up because the shooter was in a very crowded room and the .223 bullet can pass through one or sometimes two victims before stopping as well as ricochet (depending on the type of bullet used...probably fully jacketed.) Also extra 30 round clips are easily interchanged when one becomes empty. This guy sounds like he knew his shit and probably practiced beforehand.


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Re: 50+ people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: hostileuniverse]
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hostileuniverse said:
Sophistic Radiance said:
The right wingers have been working their ass off to co opt the activist power of the LGBT movement, this is their latest ploy to delude us into thinking we should be afraid of Muslims instead of them.



Yes, be more afraid of people who want you to use the right bathroom than people that want to kill you... That's some great logic you have there:rolleyes:



That's pretty far fetched Sophistic Radiance. While I do think its a false flag of some sort, I doubt its in the sense that you're portraying

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Re: 50+ people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: just_curious]
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Lol, ok. You agree there was lack of evidence enough to suspect a false flag, but bring an element of real, contemporary American politics into the conspiracy theory and it's ruined.


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Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.


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Re: 50+ people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: qman]
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qman said:
Supachopped719 said:
What's your solution then? No more Muslims ever?



If people would stop defending a shitty ideology and religion then maybe something could be accomplished.

I bet many people at that club would be very quick to defend Islam before this event happened, it makes no sense at all.



What do you mean defend Islam? Like defend them verbally? You and anyone else is more than free to talk mad shit about Muslims and Islam, just like what happens in these threads. You really think people online saying not all Muslims are bad is really the reason why there are terrorist attacks?

By defend Muslims, do you mean physically? Like people would be defending Muslims if other people started attacking them?


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Re: 50+ people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: qman]
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If you need an update on what has happened here you go:







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"You are not IN the universe, you ARE the universe, an intrinsic part of it. Ultimately you are not a person, but a focal point where the universe is becoming conscious of itself. What an amazing miracle."

- Eckhart Tolle

“Everybody is ‘you’. Everybody is ‘I’. That’s our name. We all share that.”

- Alan Watts

"Cosmic apotheosis wears off quicker than Salvia"

- Rick Sanchez (voice of Justin Roiland)

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Re: 50+ people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: Supachopped719] * 2
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Supachopped719 said:
qman said:
Supachopped719 said:
What's your solution then? No more Muslims ever?



If people would stop defending a shitty ideology and religion then maybe something could be accomplished.

I bet many people at that club would be very quick to defend Islam before this event happened, it makes no sense at all.



What do you mean defend Islam? Like defend them verbally? You and anyone else is more than free to talk mad shit about Muslims and Islam, just like what happens in these threads. You really think people online saying not all Muslims are bad is really the reason why there are terrorist attacks?

By defend Muslims, do you mean physically? Like people would be defending Muslims if other people started attacking them?



They defend the shitty views of Islam because they're hypocrites, you see when a section of white culture believes in these outdated views, they get labeled sexist, homophobic, misogynist, ect. 

Yet, when it comes to Muslims, somehow they get a free pass, why is that? 

Look at Obama defending Islam, he can't even call it a Islamic terrorist attack, that type of leadership needs to go before we have a chance to fix the problem.

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Re: 50+ people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: qman]
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Well can't both the Muslims and the Christians be sexist homophobes?


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Re: 50+ people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: qman] * 1
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So what have we got so far? Right wing on how to defeat ISIS -
1. Call them Radical Islamist
2.


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Re: 50+ people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: Supachopped719] * 1
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Supachopped719 said:
Well can't both the Muslims and the Christians be sexist homophobes?



Obviously, but why do some people only condemn Christians for that behavior? Muslims get a free pass because some people think of them as victims.

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Re: 50+ people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: Citizen X] * 3
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Citizen X said:
So what have we got so far? Right wing on how to defeat ISIS -
1. Call them Radical Islamist
2.




You mean as opposed to the left?

1. Bitch about the right.
2.
3. Profit.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

Edited by luvdemshrooms (06/13/16 05:48 PM)

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Re: 50+ people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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Sophistic Radiance said:
Thread is yet another fucking tire fire. I hate these.



It reeks and lasts too long? Yup.


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Re: 20 people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: Thayendanegea]
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Thayendanegea said:
I believe the weapon used was an AR-15 along with a side arm. The AR-15 is the civilian equivalent of the M-16 military issue selective fire semi/ fully automatic. The civilian grade is only available in semi-automatic....meaning it will fire as fast as the finger can pull the trigger. It uses a .223 caliber bullet weighing around 50 grains that leaves the muzzle around 2700 fps.
This Vs. the .40 caliber side arm that sends a much heavier bullet at a much slower velocity...usually around 1400 fps.

I'm bringing this up because the shooter was in a very crowded room and the .223 bullet can pass through one or sometimes two victims before stopping as well as ricochet (depending on the type of bullet used...probably fully jacketed.) Also extra 30 round clips are easily interchanged when one becomes empty. This guy sounds like he knew his shit and probably practiced beforehand.



He was a security guard for a private company and most likely received firearms training for his job. While I generally agree with this, if you couple a bumpfire stock with an AR15 it has a rate of fire pretty close to a fully automatic M16.

It's also worth noting that if the shooter "knew his shit" he would've gone with a more damaging round like the 7.63x39.

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Re: 50+ people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
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ShroomerInTheRye said:
I'm heading over right now to donate blood.  If you're in Florida and want to make a blood donation, visit oneblood.org for the location nearest you.




They are stocked up pretty well. Right now, they are looking for Universal Donors only pretty much, and AB plasma. So, if you have O- or O+, they are taking those people as a first priority. otherwise, you almost have to make an appointment into next week if you are in the orlando area.

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Re: 50+ people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: 404] * 1
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I have O- blood, but I can't give any because it's contaminated with faggotry


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Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.


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