Tipote said:

maybe hungary and poland should leave the convention on the refugee 51 and 67, maybe they should not recognise the European court of human rights, as well as leave the EU.

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qman said:

Tipote said:

maybe hungary and poland should leave the convention on the refugee 51 and 67, maybe they should not recognise the European court of human rights, as well as leave the EU.

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"leave the convention on the refugee 51 and 67"

I agree, so should all of the EU members because it would maybe stop their leaders from abusing it and maintaining an open door policy for third world migrants.

"as well as leave the EU"

I think many might to be leaving the corrupt EU, including its main members. Clearly the EU has been a massive failure in this "refugee crisis".

https://www.rt.com/news/346155-germany-eu-pew-poll/

"a new poll has found Germans are just as unhappy with the EU as the British. The survey found that 48 percent of Germans have an unfavorable attitude towards the bloc."

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Tipote said:

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Bubbles85 said:

Come on man .. England fans are not the only group that have been causing trouble at the Euro's and you know it. Russian fans and French fans have all been getting them selves involved in whats been going on.

You really should stop using the Guardian as your main source of info.

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Dude learn to detect a joke. It was supposed to highlight how language is used for certain stories (usually about brown people). clearly that went over your head.

Of course its not just English, Russians are fucking shit up too. As far as i've seen, not so much with the French though obviously there are French hooligans in France right now..

Where am I using the Guardian for my main source? The guy posted the guardian, not me.
Can you show me that where i have posted Guardian articles that don't have correct information??

Tipote said:

qman said:

Tipote said:

maybe hungary and poland should leave the convention on the refugee 51 and 67, maybe they should not recognise the European court of human rights, as well as leave the EU.

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"leave the convention on the refugee 51 and 67"

I agree, so should all of the EU members because it would maybe stop their leaders from abusing it and maintaining an open door policy for third world migrants.

"as well as leave the EU"

I think many might to be leaving the corrupt EU, including its main members. Clearly the EU has been a massive failure in this "refugee crisis".

https://www.rt.com/news/346155-germany-eu-pew-poll/

"a new poll has found Germans are just as unhappy with the EU as the British. The survey found that 48 percent of Germans have an unfavorable attitude towards the bloc."

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Everyone agrees that the EU has dealt with these things badly. Perhaps (obviously) you'll prefer the right wing way of dealing with these people. Shoot them at the border? Tear gassing children? Concentration camps? Deportation regardless of rights? Incarceration?

Yes the EU has failed but there are structures there that can be improved upon to deal with the situation better. The alternative tempts that catastrophe that you keep rubbing your hands and warning about. In your own words.."it won't be pretty". It is not a consensus that we shouldnt accept refugees, its about the manner in which this crisis is dealt with.

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night_shift said:

qman said:

night_shift said:

qman said:

The taxpayer!!!

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Lol.

Go tell this to the people in France.

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Do you have a valid point? Give it a try sometime.

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I do. For me it's obvious.

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qman said:

No, it's called understanding that illegals and migrants are a massive financial burden to the native populations. Where do you think the money comes from to pay for their expenses?  The taxpayer!!!

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No, it's called understanding that the billionaires are a massive financial burden to the majority of the population. Where do you think the money comes from to pay for their luxuries and power? The taxpayer!!!

...Yeah, praise the taxpayer.

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night_shift said:

qman said:

viktor said:

night_shift doesn't really want to face up to the problem because it's all so unpleasant.

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Well sure, when you live in a world filled with rainbows, unicorns, and butterflies, this problem doesn't make any RATIONAL sense.

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If you think a person who sees the world as filled with rainbows, unicorns, and butterflies, would be even remotely interested in politics, you're delusional. I see massacre.

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