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A Frenchman detained last month with a large cache of arms was planning mass attacks during the Euro 2016 football tournament, which starts on Friday, Ukrainian officials say.

The man, identified by French media as Gregoire Moutaux, 25, was arrested on the Ukrainian border with Poland.

Intelligence chief Vasyl Hrytsak said the man had planned 15 attacks and was driven by ultra-nationalist views.

He had amassed guns, detonators and 125kg of TNT, Mr Hrytsak said.

Mr Hrytsak listed bridges, motorways, a mosque and a synagogue among the suspect's potential targets. He was being prosecuted for arms smuggling and terrorism, he said.

It was not clear if the tournament itself was being targeted and Paris police prefect Michel Cadot told reporters there was "no specific threat against any [Euro 2016] site".
'Threat exists'

News of the man's arrest on 21 May first emerged in a report by French TV network M6. The suspect was described as a worker at a farming co-operative from the Lorraine area of eastern France. He had no previous criminal record, reports said.

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What's significant is that so far the French investigation is not in the hands of anti-terrorist specialists, but of the unit that looks into organised crime.

This would suggest that the initial suspicion in Paris is that Mr Moutaux was engaged in arms trafficking.

His home in north-east France has been searched by police, who - according to media reports - found a T-shirt bearing far-right insignia. The Ukrainians say he was motivated by hatred of immigration and globalisation.

Ukraine's SBU security service said it had been watching the suspect since December last year and that he had picked up five Kalashnikovs, two anti-tank grenade launchers, some 5,000 rounds of ammunition and 100 detonators, as well as a large quantity of explosives.

An SBU video was shown of the dramatic moment of the suspect's arrest along with the weapons that intelligence officials said they had found. The arrest was said to have taken place at a border crossing close to the Ukrainian town of Yahodyn.

The footage also revealed a second person being wrestled to the ground on the passenger side of the car.

The SBU chief said the French suspect had been in touch "with military units fighting in Donbass", a reference to the eastern areas of Luhansk and Donetsk, where pro-Russian rebels have seized large areas of Ukrainian territory.

"The Frenchman spoke negatively of the activities of his government on mass migration of foreigners to France, the spread of Islam and globalisation. He also said he wished to stage a number of terrorist attacks in protest," Mr Hrytsak said.

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qman said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

qman said:

...it's also a fact that they cost taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars. Again, please explain how that's irrational fear?

I'll wait for a rational response, but I'm sure I won't get one.

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Hundreds of billions now?  You recently claimed $25 billion, and that was debunked.

You're xenophobia is so bad that you're just making up facts to justify your hatred.

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Nothing was debunked, http://www.fairus.org/publications/the-fiscal-burden-of-illegal-immigration-on-united-states-taxpayers - "Illegal immigration costs US taxpayers about $113 billion a year at the federal, state, and local level. The bulk of the costs- some $84 billion - are absorbed by state and local governments."

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Oh good lord, you just pointed to the very article that was debunked in my link above.

Here's a virtual slap on the face to try and knock you out of your xenophobic bubble back into the world of reality.

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

qman said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

qman said:

...it's also a fact that they cost taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars. Again, please explain how that's irrational fear?

I'll wait for a rational response, but I'm sure I won't get one.

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Hundreds of billions now?  You recently claimed $25 billion, and that was debunked.

You're xenophobia is so bad that you're just making up facts to justify your hatred.

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Nothing was debunked, http://www.fairus.org/publications/the-fiscal-burden-of-illegal-immigration-on-united-states-taxpayers - "Illegal immigration costs US taxpayers about $113 billion a year at the federal, state, and local level. The bulk of the costs- some $84 billion - are absorbed by state and local governments."

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Oh good lord, you just pointed to the very article that was debunked in my link above.

Here's a virtual slap on the face to try and knock you out of your xenophobic bubble back into the world of reality.

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night_shift said:

qman said:

The taxpayer!!!

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Lol.

Go tell this to the people in France.

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viktor said:

night_shift doesn't really want to face up to the problem because it's all so unpleasant.

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Well sure, when you live in a world filled with rainbows, unicorns, and butterflies, this problem doesn't make any RATIONAL sense.

airclay said:

when your political beliefs align with actual fascists and outspoken racists, you've fucked up somewhere along the line.

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airclay said:

when you're supporting anything labelled (and accepted by the labelled) as far right, even as a conservative, you have to know that you're fucking up somehow. In all of history the far right is associated w totalitarianism and fascism.

when your political beliefs align with actual fascists and outspoken racists, you've fucked up somewhere along the line.

and it always falls back into an economic argument (which nobody falls for when the other side of your mouth is constantly complaining about blacks, mexicans and the failure of cultural diversity). how about we stop paying to destabilize areas of the world and start putting that money towards our own problems?

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The Ecstatic said:

^ the persistence of your 'us vs. them' mentality is why the left will always rise back to power when the dust settles.

The right only rises to power during crises. When humans are frightened and desperate, they turn to the far right.

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well said

viktor said:

airclay said:

when your political beliefs align with actual fascists and outspoken racists, you've fucked up somewhere along the line.

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No, the LEFT fucked up somewhere along the line. It should have taken care of its native working classes, instead of shitting on them for the sake of some Muslims.

Had it taken care of its own people, which is what it was voted into power to do, and not let in millions of Muslims, which is not what it was voted into power to do, there wouldn't be a problem with the far right.

Don't blame the people for not giving you their allegiance forever when you betray them!

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The Ecstatic said:

^ the persistence of your 'us vs. them' mentality is why the left will always rise back to power when the dust settles.

The right only rises to power during crises. When humans are frightened and desperate, they turn to the far right.

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The police chief leading the fight to stop people becoming terrorists has said government plans targeting alleged extremists are so flawed they risk creating a “thought police” in Britain.

Simon Cole, the police lead for the government’s own Prevent anti-radicalisation programme, said that the plans may not be enforceable and risk making police officers judges of “what people can and can not say”.

His comments in a Guardian interview expose opposition in part of Britain’s security establishment against the planned Conservative government bill which was unveiled last week in the Queen’s speech.

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qman said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

qman said:

The fact that illegals cause harm to the US working class is a proven fact, it's also a fact that they cost taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars. Again, please explain how that's irrational fear?

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Hundreds of billions now?  You recently claimed $25 billion, and that was debunked.

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Nothing was debunked, http://www.fairus.org/publications/the-fiscal-burden-of-illegal-immigration-on-united-states-taxpayers - "Illegal immigration costs US taxpayers about $113 billion a year at the federal, state, and local level.
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Do you have a reading comprehension problem?

What do you think "illegal immigration costs US taxpayers about $113 billion" means?

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First of all, I was responding to your claim that "it's a fact that they (illegals) cost taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars", not the claim of a (debunked) article you posted later.

Second, you said I have a reading comprehension problem for not reading an article you posted AFTER I had already debunked your claim (see the discussion above).

Third, your claim of "hundreds of billions of dollars" is FAR short of the $113 billion your article claims.

Fourth, the $113 billion was debunked; the actual number is much closer to 10% of that.