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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Syria is only one area of many from where these third world people are coming from, trying to sum up this mass migration crisis based on policy in regards to Syria or Iraq is completely irrational.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: qman]
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http://www.wnd.com/2016/05/woman-welcomes-muslim-refugee-into-home-gets-raped/

A 24 year old German woman gang raped in a parking lot by three Muslims, "she reported the crime but two weeks later in a fit of guilt said she identified with her rapists as 'victims' of German and Western culture"

"blaming their actions on the 'racist' atmosphere and 'sexist society' in Germany, beginning her post with, 'Dear male refugees, I am so sorry"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3617417/18-women-sexually-assaulted-German-concert-victims-surrounded-mobs-migrant-men-groped-copycat-attacks-like-Cologne.html

"A group of asylum seekers sexually assaulted numerous women at a free concert in Germany...Three Pakistani men are already under arrest after 26 women filed complaints"

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: qman]
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qman said:
Syria is only one area of many from where these third world people are coming from, trying to sum up this mass migration crisis based on policy in regards to Syria or Iraq is completely irrational.


I think there's always confusion about who we're talking about.  It seems like liberals are always talking about refugees, while conservatives are talking about immigrants in general.  There's definitely a different standard for the two.

From my perspective, I think we should open the door to refugees whose lives are in danger as a result of Western intervention.  I've never advocated for opening the borders to all immigrants.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: qman] * 2
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qman said:
Syria is only one area of many from where these third world people are coming from, trying to sum up this mass migration crisis based on policy in regards to Syria or Iraq is completely irrational.


Except nobody is doing that. Youre the only one trying to make it a black and white thing.


Military interventions were/are most certainly a contributing factor. Economic opportunists in Eritrea after the fact is just that, opportunism.

If the bullshit in Syria and Iraq didnt start, these other nations' people wouldnt have just taken off on a whim to Europe.

If you believe otherwise, whyd they wait this long? Wars precipitated a crisis, people are taking advantage of that crisis (people in Eritrea, right wing political parties in Europe, etc etc).


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
qman said:
Syria is only one area of many from where these third world people are coming from, trying to sum up this mass migration crisis based on policy in regards to Syria or Iraq is completely irrational.


I think there's always confusion about who we're talking about.  It seems like liberals are always talking about refugees, while conservatives are talking about immigrants in general.  There's definitely a different standard for the two.

From my perspective, I think we should open the door to refugees whose lives are in danger as a result of Western intervention.  I've never advocated for opening the borders to all immigrants.


The problem the EU faced in the mass flooding of people was trying to actually identify who was a genuine refugee. Being from Syria does NOT automatically qualify a person for refugee status.

What EU quickly found out was most migrants were NOT legitimate refugees.

Even the UN has advocated keeping genuine refugees in their own region or home country, bringing them into developed nations is not a viable long term solution.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
qman said:
Syria is only one area of many from where these third world people are coming from, trying to sum up this mass migration crisis based on policy in regards to Syria or Iraq is completely irrational.


Except nobody is doing that. Youre the only one trying to make it a black and white thing.


Military interventions were/are most certainly a contributing factor. Economic opportunists in Eritrea after the fact is just that, opportunism.

If the bullshit in Syria and Iraq didnt start, these other nations' people wouldnt have just taken off on a whim to Europe.

If you believe otherwise, whyd they wait this long? Wars precipitated a crisis, people are taking advantage of that crisis (people in Eritrea, right wing political parties in Europe, etc etc).


"War precipitated a crisis"

But crisis in the ME can certainly develop all on its own without Western influence.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: qman]
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http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/raining-men-sweden-sees-historic-gender-balance-shift-39477732

Too many African and Middle Eastern male migrants are killing Sweden's demographics.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
qman said:
Syria is only one area of many from where these third world people are coming from, trying to sum up this mass migration crisis based on policy in regards to Syria or Iraq is completely irrational.


Except nobody is doing that. Youre the only one trying to make it a black and white thing.


Military interventions were/are most certainly a contributing factor. Economic opportunists in Eritrea after the fact is just that, opportunism.

If the bullshit in Syria and Iraq didnt start, these other nations' people wouldnt have just taken off on a whim to Europe.

If you believe otherwise, whyd they wait this long? Wars precipitated a crisis, people are taking advantage of that crisis (people in Eritrea, right wing political parties in Europe, etc etc).


"War precipitated a crisis"

But crisis in the ME can certainly develop all on its own without Western influence.


It can, but it didnt.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: night_shift]
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The War in Syria is turning out to be a very bad investment for the EU citizen.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: night_shift]
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night_shift said:
qman said:
Ultimately the first world citizen wants a decent return on investment when it comes to military actions outside of their nations, if it works for them it's a good policy.


:congrats:

"Military actions outside of their nations" being labelled as "investment". You rock.

Ultimately the first world average citizen wants a decent return on investment when it comes to no military actions outside of their nations, if, it works for them all so it's a good policy.

There, I fixed that for you.


Communism killed 100 million people ....


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: night_shift]
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night_shift said:
qman said:
Ultimately the first world citizen wants a decent return on investment when it comes to military actions outside of their nations, if it works for them it's a good policy.


:congrats:

"Military actions outside of their nations" being labelled as "investment". You rock.

Ultimately the first world average citizen wants a decent return on investment when it comes to no military actions outside of their nations, if, it works for them all so it's a good policy.

There, I fixed that for you.


Iraq and Afghanistan don't seem like a good returns of investment in my opinion.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: Bubbles85]
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lol @ well, well communism did too

communism itself is guilty of nothing, humans and their malpractice are tho. when you correct your scope of blame, it's easy to see all economic models that have been tried could be found in misuse.

and also wtf are you on abt? no one has mentioned communism in pages...


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: qman]
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qman said:
night_shift said:
qman said:
Ultimately the first world citizen wants a decent return on investment when it comes to military actions outside of their nations, if it works for them it's a good policy.


:congrats:

"Military actions outside of their nations" being labelled as "investment". You rock.

Ultimately the first world average citizen wants a decent return on investment when it comes to no military actions outside of their nations, if, it works for them all so it's a good policy.

There, I fixed that for you.


Iraq and Afghanistan don't seem like a good returns of investment in my opinion.



too bad there's no like over your head or you missed the point emoticon


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: airclay]
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airclay said:
communism itself is guilty of nothing, humans and their malpractice are tho.


So by that logic, the far-left and the people who support it, are guilty of creating far more human suffering and killing far more Innocent people, than any other side :lol:

Many of the people arguing in this thread, certainly strike me as far-left and probably are ...


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: airclay]
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airclay said:
lol @ well, well communism did too

communism itself is guilty of nothing, humans and their malpractice are tho. when you correct your scope of blame, it's easy to see all economic models that have been tried could be found in misuse.

and also wtf are you on abt? no one has mentioned communism in pages...


"communism itself is guilty of nothing"

The fact that it's still glorified by certain people is disturbing.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
airclay said:
lol @ well, well communism did too

communism itself is guilty of nothing, humans and their malpractice are tho. when you correct your scope of blame, it's easy to see all economic models that have been tried could be found in misuse.

and also wtf are you on abt? no one has mentioned communism in pages...


"communism itself is guilty of nothing"

The fact that it's still glorified by certain people is disturbing.


the same could be said abt capitalism

again, where's that over your head emoticon?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: Bubbles85] * 1
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Bubbles85 said:
airclay said:
communism itself is guilty of nothing, humans and their malpractice are tho.


So by that logic, the far-left and the people who support it, are guilty of creating far more human suffering and killing far more Innocent people, than any other side :lol:

Many of the people arguing in this thread, certainly strike me as far-left and probably are ...



you've been taking notes from qman I see, good way to quote out the context and insert your own.

by any logic pinning deaths at the hand of an economic system in itself is sophomoric. when applying the same qualifiers all such economic models that have been tried seem to be equally as guilty.

let me try this from another angle

name any capitalist economy that isn't guilty of genocide/human rights violations or sliding into globalization or extreme wealth inequality?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: airclay]
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airclay said:
Bubbles85 said:
airclay said:
communism itself is guilty of nothing, humans and their malpractice are tho.


So by that logic, the far-left and the people who support it, are guilty of creating far more human suffering and killing far more Innocent people, than any other side :lol:

Many of the people arguing in this thread, certainly strike me as far-left and probably are ...



you've been taking notes from qman I see, good way to quote out the context and insert your own.

by any logic pinning deaths at the hand of an economic system in itself is sophomoric. when applying the same qualifiers all such economic models that have been tried seem to be equally as guilty.


I'm not pinning deaths on the economic system. I pinning them on the people enforcing it. The far-left.

airclay said:
let me try this from another angle

name any capitalist economy that isn't guilty of genocide/human rights violations or sliding into globalization or extreme wealth inequality?


Exactly the same can be said about communism. Communism by its very nature has all ways lead to wealth inequality, not that those pushing this agenda would ever admit to that.

People continually claim that capitalism is the sole creator of wealth inequality, but the fact is, that since the globe has adopted a more market-based, more capitalist economic approach world wide, there has been a marked decrease in world poverty...


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe *DELETED* [Re: Bubbles85] * 4
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Bubbles85 said:
airclay said:
communism itself is guilty of nothing, humans and their malpractice are tho.


So by that logic, the far-left and the people who support it, are guilty of creating far more human suffering and killing far more Innocent people, than any other side :lol:

Many of the people arguing in this thread, certainly strike me as far-left and probably are ...


And by far left you mean communist?
Please stop guessing things, your not very good at it.

And this is not a competition where you are supposed to choose the one of the extremes which you can argue has caused the least suffering historically. Why not just stop giving a fuck on which side is called what and has done what when, and start thinking about the current situation and the possible outcomes created by the possible actions in this moment. What can we do, and what will be the consequences of those actions? Without even giving a thought to which "side" came up with the idea.

The-"The communists where bad and you are leaning towards their side in my opinion, so you are also bad"-mentality is laughable. Right or left, who gives a fuck. Fucking primitive herd behavior. The credibility of different ideas for solutions does not depend on who came up with them.


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